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EP478: Stop-Loss Coverage, Part 1: How It Goes Right, and How It Can Go Horribly Wrong, With Andreas Mang and Jon Camire

Episode 478 of the Relentless Health Value podcast, hosted by Stacey Richter, titled "EP478: Stop-Loss Coverage, Part 1: How It Goes Right, and How It Can Go Horribly Wrong, With Andreas Mang and Jon Camire" was published on May 29, 2025 and runs 31 minutes.

May 29, 2025 ·31m · Relentless Health Value

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Host Stacey Richter discusses the intricacies of stop-loss coverage with Andreas Mang and Jon Camire from Blackstone. The episode focuses on defining stop-loss insurance and exploring its critical role in protecting self-insured employers from catastrophic financial losses. 

The conversation delves into the nuances of individual and aggregate stop-loss policies, laser claims, and the importance of selecting an experienced consultant to navigate this complex landscape. The episode is essential listening for those managing high-cost claimants and exploring self-insurance options.

This is a two part show. The second show will cover major fails, mistakes that happen with stop-loss when somebody doesn't understand or do everything that we talk about. So, tune back in for the next part of this conversation, in two weeks.

Thank you to Havarti Risk for sponsoring this weeks episode. 
Havarti Risk empowers healthcare leaders like you to make smarter
decisions that increase quality and lower cost of care.
https://havarti-risk.com/

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07:24 What is stop-loss?

08:27 What is reinsurance?

09:57 EP420 with Ge Bai, PhD, CPA.

10:10 Why has stop-loss been a barrier for smaller companies going self-insured?

13:55 Why self-insurance needs to be a joint decision between finance and HR.

15:38 What is aggregate versus individual within stop-loss?

19:51 Why is it important for companies to choose the right level of stop-loss coverage?

21:29 What is a laser claim?

29:28 Why is it important to know what your brokers are getting paid on your stop-loss policies?

 

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