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EPISODE · Jul 28, 2026 · 31 MIN

EP802: Lisa Kavanagh - The Great Books Discussions - Anthem By Ayn Rand

from The Thought Leader Revolution Podcast · host Nicky Billou

"Individualism without a sense of unity is just as dangerous as the hive mind." This one's a little different. Nicky Billou hands his longtime energy-healing mentor Lisa Kavanagh a copy of Ayn Rand's Anthem, no priming, and the two of them just talk through it — what it says, what it gets right, and where it goes too far. Lisa had never read Rand before. She found the story of a man raised in a collective so total it abolished mirrors and the word "I" genuinely unsettling in how current it feels — but she isn't shy about pushing back on the ending, where Rand's hero swings from one extreme to another. Nicky fills in the rest: who Rand was, what she escaped, and why Anthem still sells alongside The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged decades after her death. If you've ever wondered whether a short, decades-old novella is worth your time, this is basically two friends talking you into reading it. Learn more & connect: Lisa Kavanagh — Natural Healing Reiki: https://www.naturalhealingreiki.ca Anthem by Ayn Rand — available on Amazon for under $10: https://www.amazon.com/Anthem-Ayn-Rand/dp/0451191137 Resources mentioned: Anthem by Ayn Rand: https://www.amazon.com/Anthem-Ayn-Rand/dp/0451191137 The Fountainhead by Ayn Rand: https://www.amazon.com/Fountainhead-Ayn-Rand/dp/0451191153 Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand: https://www.amazon.com/Atlas-Shrugged-Ayn-Rand/dp/0451191145 Visit https://www.eCircleAcademy.com and book a success call with Nicky to take your practice to the next level.

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