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EPISODE · Sep 22, 2025 · 15 MIN

Episode 02: Breaking Free From Shame

from Mind and Spirit Podcast: With Luke Johanni · host Luke Johanni, LGPC, NCC

What’s the difference between guilt and shame, and which one does God actually want for your healing? In this episode of Mind and Spirit, Catholic integrative therapist, Luke Johanni, explores St. Paul’s teaching on godly grief vs. worldly grief, how the Catechism defines contrition, and what John Paul II and Aquinas reveal about shame.You’ll also hear how psychology confirms the Church’s wisdom: guilt moves us toward repair, while shame keeps us stuck in hiding. Together, faith and therapy offer a path to freedom.For more resources, reflections, and ways to connect, visit my page. Learn more there about integrating Catholic faith and psychology in everyday life.Sources:Council of Trent, Session V (Decree on Original Sin)Catechism of the Catholic Church 1451–1453 (Contrition)Catechism of the Catholic Church 1468 (Effects of Reconciliation)General Audience, January 2, 1980General Audience, April 16, 1980Summa Theologica II-II, Q. 144, Art. 12 Corinthians 7:10Romans 7:15–20Romans 8:1Psalm 51:17Genesis 2:25Beck, J. S., Cognitive Behavior Therapy: Basics and Beyond, 2011Hayes, S. C., Acceptance and Commitment Therapy, Second Edition, 2012

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