Episode 04/20—CoronaVirus

So much desolation has been caused by human incursion. We've even given it holy sounding names like Manifest Destiny. In some cases humans carry disease to other cultures that have not developed immunity, such as Europeans invading the Americas. "Perhaps the most important message the coronavirus offers is that the natural world is conspiring to save us from ourselves, to slow our materialistic greed and reign in our aggressive, self-centered, short-term, and xenophobic tendencies." --John Perkins, co-founder of the Pachamama Alliance Lee and Jerry talk about what the virus has to teach us and share pertinent thoughts from experts.