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EPISODE · Oct 11, 2026 · 1H 9M

Episode 1 – Security Is a Second Language

from between2firewalls · host Ashley Knowles

In the first episode of between2firewalls, Joel Benesha from Reality Creation turns the mic on host Ashley Knowles. Ashley went from an IT support job the week after grade 12 to 20+ years in IT and cyber, consulting to Australia's biggest miners, banks and government agencies, to founding Securitribe. They cover what an ISO 27001 management system actually is (it isn't a pile of tools), what you owe the people whose data you hold, and why you should learn cyber as a second language. Plus wiping the family PC with Linux, a Lime scooter side hustle, and a real case of staff walking out with company data. Before you buy another security tool, understand what you're protecting. 🎧 Listen and subscribe YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMQ94BUM3nA0 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3YbbON01h3RiW2i0E8Sg8d Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/f7527d5f-48c7-43cb-bc02-a5cdb5b23c31/between2firewalls Website: https://between2firewalls.com 👤 Guest: Joel Benesha, Reality Creation https://realitycreation.co/ 🔗 Mentioned: Australian Privacy Principles (OAIC), ISO/IEC 27001, Vistage, EOS, VirtualBox, Proxmox 📸 Follow the show: https://www.instagram.com/between2firewalls 📌 Follow Ashley LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyknowles Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ashknowles_vciso 📘 The Honest Guide to ISO27001: https://ashleyknowles.gumroad.com/l/honest-guide-bundle 🛡️ Securitribe: https://securitribe.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/securitribe ⏱️ Chapters 00:00 Cold open 00:46 Welcome to between2firewalls 01:28 Joel's Cyber Security Challenge 04:49 IT support after grade 12 06:10 What an ISO 27001 management system is 07:54 Crown jewels: tools vs managing risk 10:33 The cost of not prioritising security 13:12 Getting into cyber: sysadmin, AD, firewalls 15:47 From firewalls to GRC 18:30 Big business vs small business 23:56 Personal browsing on work computers 26:02 How do you climb the ladder? 30:04 What should students study? 31:18 Breaking the family PC with Linux 37:17 Cyber as a second language 42:13 The pen-testing myth 48:12 Mentors and asking better questions 52:21 Why Securitribe: scooters, Vistage, EOS 59:12 The mission: obligations, risks, roadmap 1:01:30 Insider risk 1:06:50 One thing to do tomorrow 1:08:24 Subscribe and follow

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