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Episode 1: The DOP and The ABP – Who we are, what we do, and why it matters, with Liza Walter-Nelson and Claire Lish

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This very first episode of the Work Psych Pod addresses the question of why the Association for Business Psychology (ABP) and the BPS Division of Occupational Psychology (DoP) exist, what they actually do, and what value they bring to members and prospective members. Dr Liza Walter-Nelson, Chair of the DOP, and Claire Lish, Chair of the ABP, are in conversation here with podcast hosts Dr Bobbie Groves and Dr Rob Feltham.   Topics covered include: career paths into the business/ occupational psychology profession; the practice of psychology in business as opposed to the theory; how psychologists communicate what they do and how they label themselves; how to support later career professionals and business people who wish to qualify as psychologists; and the ways in which the ABP and DOP both compete and cooperate.    The key uniting theme from the discussion is passion for the benefits of psychology in business, and the continual drive for higher standards. This podcast was edited and produced by Rob Feltham.  

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