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EPISODE · Jan 26, 2026 · 2H 22M

Episode 10 - A Very Thin Piece of Ham with Mike Lisk

from Empathy At The Apocalypse · host Andy Mascola and Josh Seybert

The boys host Mike Lisk (AKA AP Mike from the Best Show with Tom Scharpling)! Josh and Andy start the show talking about their parents' differing reactions to the music they were listening to when they were developing their own tastes (2 Live Crew, Suicidal Tendencies, Sonic Youth, Pearl Jam etc.), The Frogs' discography, Josh's job search, divorce, Marvel movies, seeing films at home vs in the theater, Julia Ducorneau movies, Paul Thomas Anderson movies, liquid movie theater butter, popcorn machines, Flavacol and popcorn popping techniques, Josh is gifted five pounds of bacon, haluski, Andy's back on poultry, bacon grease soup, The Pitt, competency p*rn, How It's Made, pepper spray, tattoos, Andy and Josh discuss their AP Mike phone screening interactions over the years, watching podcasts on YouTube: yay or nay?, gatekeeping Adam Friedland, Stavros Halkias is everywhere and is getting away with everything, Joe Pera's posse is insane, Chaki The Funk Wizard, George 'The Animal' Steele, Pete Holmes, Momus, Mike Doughty of Soul Coughing, the boys thank Sherri Locker for suggesting AP Mike as a guest, and Smash Mouth. The boys take a break and come back with their guest, Mike Lisk (AKA AP Mike)! Mike talks about the ending of his podcast Egg Foo What?!, mortality, and taking care of his father. Josh and Andy ask Mike about his Best Show call screening duties and Mike talks about his experience with the various callers (the good and the bad) over the years. The boys engage Mike in book talk (John O'Brien, John Hawkes, Barry Gifford, Jim Thompson, Brohumil Hrabel), Andy asks Mike about Supercallers from the past, Mike talks about Fredericks and Spike, Mike talks about WBAI: Gary Null and Lynn Samuels, crystal immunity, new age culture, the term woo woo, ambient water, the age at which people start exploring new music, the latest Geese album, Rick Beato, the hunt vs everything, everywhere, all at once culture, PTA movies, Thomas Pynchon novels, Write Conscious, David Foster Wallace, Josh pitches Infinite Brett, Life on Books, Empire of the Summer Moon: Quanah Parker and the Rise and Fall of the Comanches, the Most Powerful Indian Tribe in American History by S. C. Gwynne, Cormac McCarthy, Larry Brown, Kevin Smith, Andy asks about Tom's friendship with Paul F. Tompkins, Mike tells the boys a couple bar stories, Josh and Mike bond over "art" movies, including Jeanne Dielman, 23, quai du Commerce, 1080 Bruxelles (1975), sports, Mike Francesa and their relationship to the Best Show, and the Gristedes guy is in a Safdie movie.  Find everything AP Mike-related at apmike.bandcamp.com.  Thank you for listening! Our theme song is by gypsymoths. Our avatar was created by Benjamin M. Hillman.

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