Episode 10: Eyes On You In & Outside the Ring w/ Jackie Kallen

Jenilee and Cass chat it up about Chappell Roan: the internet is tearing her up. Does fame really put you through the wringer? Jenilee can speak a thing or two to that. Jenilee and recurring guest host Skylar Sorkin speak with one of the first and most successful female boxing managers and Hall of Famer Jackie Kallen (best known for managing fighters such as James Toney steering him to three world championships, junior middleweight champion Bronco McKart and featherweight champion Tom “Boom Boom” Johnson). Tune in to hear Jackie's life story, what she faced in and out of the ring, and how she kept persistent paving the way for women in the strictly male-dominate field.