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EPISODE · Sep 17, 2025 · 37 MIN

Episode 10B: More with author Ryan Swanson

from Lesser Known New Mexico Podcast · host Laura Paskus and Andy Lyman

We’re back with author and professor Ryan Swanson!What more did we have to talk about? In a nutshell: Soccer, systems, community, and justice.More specifically, we talk about:* Shame in college soccer, around different rules and ethics and what Swanson notes is an interesting tension in soccer to win and play it the “right way.”* Who helped the players navigate their possible futures while Coach Jeremy Fishbein tried to save the team? (Hint: assistant coaches Mike Graczyk and Kelly Altman)* Title IX and why the University of New Mexico is still out of compliance (even though that was one of the reasons given for cutting the men’s soccer team).* Why he wrote the book, and how UNM has reacted to it.* UNM’s struggle within the larger context of college sports, and what radical reform might look like (and did look like at places like the University of Chicago and Vanderbilt University).* Correlations between New Mexico United and the UNM men’s soccer team. Plus, more on New Mexico United and that team’s future — and the role it could play in the state.* The bummer of youth soccer … Did you know New Mexico is 50th in terms of youth sports activities?* The segregation of youth soccer in New Mexico and across the United States — and the growth of the club sport system, which Swanson calls a “net negative for society as a whole.”Music credits: Get Through it (Instrumental), Neu Song Thanks for listening to the Lesser Known New Mexico Podcast!You can find us on Substack, Spotify or Apple and follow us on Instagram. And if you really want to, you can drop us a note at [email protected]. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit lesserknownnmpod.substack.com

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