Episode 11 [Unedited]

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This is episode is the full, unedited interview with Leigh Hafrey. If you haven’t listened to the fully produced episode yet, we strongly encourage you to do so before listening to this one. They’re shorter in length and much more refined. EPISODE CREDITS Guest Starring Leigh Hafrey – Senior Lecturer of Communication & Ethics MIT’s Sloan School of Management Produced & Hosted by Adam Greenfield Executive Produced by Patrick Yurick, Instructional Designer – MIT OGE Executive Produced by Heather Konar, Communication Director – MIT OGE Special thanks to the following editors who provided us invaluable feedback that aided in the development of this show: Christopher O’Keeffe, Co-Founder of Podcation Kristy Bennet, Manager – MIT Women’s League Jennifer Cherone, Phd Candidate – MIT Burge Laboratory Erik Tillman, Phd, Formerly of the Kim Lab & Currently A Fellow at Vida Ventures, LLC The Great Communicators Podcast is a part of Gradcommx. Gradcommx, targeted at enhancing research communication, is the first offering of Gradx – a professional development project created for the graduate student population at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology by the Office For Graduate Education. MUSIC & SOUNDS “Divider” by Chris Zabriskie is licensed under Attribution 4.0 International License (http://freemusicarchive.org) EPISODE SCRIPT Print The Script Here ADAM GREENFIELD Hello, Adam Greenfield here, host of The Great Communicators podcast series. What you’re about to hear is the full, unedited interview with one of the guests we spoke with. If you haven’t listened to the fully produced episode yet, I definitely encourage you to do so before listening to this one. They’re shorter in length and much more refined. You can find them all at gradx.mit.edu/podcasts. The idea behind these longer, unedited conversation is to give you an opportunity to hear the entire talk, warts and all. This is not only a fun way to hear the full flow of the conversation but it also emphasizes the importance of the points made in the shorter, produced episodes, which again, can be found at gradx.mit.edu/podcasts. Thanks for listening and enjoy the conversation. Patrick Yurick: Could you state your name and your job title? Leigh Hafrey: My name is Leigh Hafrey. I am a senior lecturer at MIT Sloan School of Management. P: How long have you been doing the work that you have been doing? L: I have taught at Sloan since 1995. I started out teaching in the communication area. I still have that affiliation, but I now teach leadership and ethics, and communication factors into what I do in both of those areas, but it is less, obviously, what I teach. P: What drew you to that line of work? L: I guess I could go back to my earliest days, I spent a lot of time reading growing up. In fact, I have now published two books that focus on narrative, how we tell stores, why we tell stores, the fact that we can’t help telling stories, and the importance of checking ourselves as we tell those stories for integrity and accuracy, and also the implant that those stories have on the people around us, which is a significant component to leadership. P: Interesting. Has your definition, I mean, it sounds like you have a very nuance definiti...