Episode 111 Why Women Make Better Spies with Lindsay Moran (Part 1)

In this episode, John talks with Lindsay Moran — former CIA operator, an expert on human intelligence, national spokesperson for DeliverFund (an NPO that uses cutting-edge technology to eradicate human trafficking), and freelance writer (her articles have appeared in The New York Times, The Washington Post, and USA Today, among other publications), author of the book Blowing My Cover: My Life As a CIA Spy, and mom. Listen to this episode to learn more: [00:10] - Welcome notes and Lindsay's introduction [04:37] - Why she joined the CIA [06:35] - What made her decide to write the book Blowing My Cover [08:29] - Why she left the CIA [11:43] - Her plans to write a second book [15:07] - Motherhood — the most important role in her life [16:36] - The process of becoming a CIA operative [21:29] - CIA training after being recruited [27:56] - The transition from spy to civilian [34:28] - Mental health challenges working as an undercover agent [40:00] - Difference between passion and purpose NOTABLE QUOTES: "You start to lie for your job, and you end up lying about everything." "Why I think women make better spies is that maternal nurturing, empathetic side of women that make them more effective case officers in being able to handle foreign agents, being able to counsel them, not to be at risk or being able to safeguard them." "I don't think it's possible to find your purpose in life without pain. I don't think it's possible because pain is clarifying. It is. It will show you exactly what you need to do in order to get where you need to go." "The challenge for all of us is to constantly be evolving, to be the best people that we can be, or an even better version of ourselves than we were the day before." USEFUL RESOURCES: https://lindsaymoran.com/  https://www.instagram.com/linzmoran/  https://www.instagram.com/deliverfund/  https://www.linkedin.com/in/lindsay-moran-6aa670/  https://twitter.com/LindsayMoran  https://tinyurl.com/BlowingMyCoverBook  CONNECT WITH JOHN Website - https://thejohnhulen.com    Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/johnhulen    Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/johnhulen   Twitter - https://www.twitter.com/johnhulen    LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhulen    YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLX_NchE8lisC4NL2GciIWA  EPISODE CREDITS Intro music provided by Tony Palacios - https://www.instagram.com/tonytonedog/    Outro music provided by Jeff Scheetz - https://jeffscheetz.com/