Episode 112 Why Women Make Better Spies with Lindsay Moran (Part 2)

John continues his conversation with Lindsay Moran, a former CIA undercover operative. In the previous episode, the two discussed everything from Lindsay's time with the CIA to her transition from spy to civilian. Their conversation today centers around her relationships and the lessons she learned from specific incidents in her life. Listen to this episode to learn more:  [00:00] - Difference between the words failing and failure [03:47] - There's something spiritual and faith-filled about slowing down [04:14] - Lindsay's relationship with faith [09:41] - Why she decided to become an entrepreneur [14:22] - Being a mom teaches you forgiveness [17:18] - Why working for the CIA is stressful [21:46] - How Lindsay improves her relationship with her children and clients [26:16] - How Lindsay's romantic relationships have impacted her life [28:31] - Putting in the work to improve yourself and your relationships [32:18] - Sometimes the CIA is a difficult place to be as a woman [40:17] - Her number one go-to habit [42:26] - What's helping Lindsay grow NOTABLE QUOTES: "Failures are a gift. Very quickly, I started to look at this neck injury as a gift to me. Now, of course, I would feel differently. I'm sure if it had been more catastrophic or the outcome had been worse, but I cannot help thinking how much this has given me already in terms of forcing me to sit still, to be perfectly honest, getting back to my writing." "There is a spiritual gift of slowing; it is a discipline to do that, to force yourself to slow down and be in the moment." "I've never believed that God does this or that, but I've always believed through my life that there are signs that are in front of you, and they're put there by God … but you only see them when you're open to seeing them." "Another thing that being a mom does to you is it makes you forgive so many more people because everybody is somebody's son or daughter." "Sometimes it wasn't the best people who survived. Sometimes it's the people who were ruthless or self-serving who did survive." "The only way it gets better is if you actively pursue it and you work on it. I don't care what the skillset is. It doesn't matter. If you're not spending time working on it, it isn't gonna get better." "I don't care where they go to college. I don't care if they go to college. As long as I have raised the type of boys and men who do the right thing, when other people are watching and when nobody's watching, then I know that I've succeeded."  BOOK MENTIONED: Man's Search For Meaning by Viktor E. Frankl (https://tinyurl.com/MansSearchForMeaningBook) PODCASTS MENTIONED: Wind of Change Podcast (https://tinyurl.com/WindOfChangePodcast) True Spies Podcast (https://tinyurl.com/TrueSpiesPodcast) USEFUL RESOURCES: https://lindsaymoran.com/   https://www.instagram.com/linzmoran/    https://www.instagram.com/deliverfund/   https://www.linkedin.com/in/lindsay-moran-6aa670/   https://twitter.com/LindsayMoran   https://tinyurl.com/BlowingMyCoverBook   CONNECT WITH JOHN Website - https://thejohnhulen.com     Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/johnhulen     Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/johnhulen    Twitter - https://www.twitter.com/johnhulen     LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhulen     YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLX_NchE8lisC4NL2GciIWA   EPISODE CREDITS Intro music provided by Tony Palacios - https://www.instagram.com/tonytonedog/     Outro music provided by Jeff Scheetz - https://jeffscheetz.com/