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EPISODE · May 29, 2026 · 30 MIN

Episode 113: How We Die with CJC Barbara Haedtke

from The Cancer Journey Podcast · host The Cancer Journey Institute

How We Die with CJC Barbara Haedtke | The Cancer Journey Podcast | Episode 113How do we die? It's a question most of us spend our lives avoiding — and one that becomes impossible to ignore when you're on a cancer journey, especially a terminal one.In Episode 113, Shariann and Alicia are joined by Barbara, a certified Cancer Journey Coach who is also living with a terminal cancer diagnosis. She brings a rare combination of professional experience and deeply personal perspective to a conversation about mortality, legacy, grief, gratitude, and what it means to truly engage with the life you have left.This is one of the most honest and tender conversations the podcast has had. It doesn't offer easy answers. It offers something better — the experience of watching someone engage with the hardest material with curiosity, grace, and an open heart.Topics covered in this episode:• What it actually feels like to face a terminal diagnosis• The difference between cognitive acceptance and emotional engagement• Grief as an ongoing, daily process — not a destination• Why the things people say to the dying often have more to do with their own fear• The practical side of facing death — putting affairs in order, shifting financial plans• Gratitude and grief living side by side in the same moment• Legacy — what you want to leave, how you want to be remembered• "Engage with the material" — what that phrase really means• The last year of Debbie Ford's sister's life — and what she said about it• What proximity to death reveals about how we've been living• How a Cancer Journey Coach creates space for this kind of engagementGuest: Barbara, Certified Cancer Journey Coach#CancerJourney #EndOfLife #CancerJourneyPodcastChapters: 0:00 Welcome and PESH check-in 2:00 Introducing the topic — how we die 4:30 Barbara's experience facing a terminal diagnosis 8:00 The drive home from the doctor — grief, beauty, and gratitude 12:00 What people say to the dying (and what they really mean) 16:00 Legacy, curiosity, and engaging with the material 20:00 Money, mortality, and what you'd do if the runway shifted 24:30 The Wise Old Crone — finding yourself through the Cancer Journey Institute 28:00 What "engage with the material" really means 32:00 Closing takeaways and PESH check-out

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