Episode 117: There Is Joy On Your Campus, It’s Just Not In Your Office episode artwork

EPISODE · Jan 11, 2025 · 34 MIN

Episode 117: There Is Joy On Your Campus, It’s Just Not In Your Office

from The Private School Leader Podcast · host Mark Minkus

I want you to use your imagination. You are at your school and you hear laughing kids. You hear excited voices and then you see big smiles and you see happy kids doing interesting things.  When you see and hear all of these things, are you in your office? Probably not.  Of course some good things happen in your office, but it is mostly a place for holding meetings, responding to emails and making phone calls. There are many joyful things happening on your campus, but you usually have to go to that joy. On today’s episode of The Private School Leader Podcast, we are going to discuss the fact that There Is Joy On Your Campus, It’s Just Not In Your Office. I know that you are super busy, so be sure to listen while you are doing something else. I hope that you will get value from this episode as you serve and lead your school community. Thank you for taking some time out of your day to listen to the podcast! Thanks for making a difference, Mark Minkus What is your biggest problem right now? I want to hear more about your biggest problem and I want to help you solve it.  Whether your problem is feeling guilty that your family gets what’s left of you at the end of the day, relentless parents, difficult teachers, a lack of boundaries between work and school, feeling overwhelmed, Imposter Syndrome, enrollment or teacher morale, I can help. I would love to hear more about your biggest problem and I would love to be your coach. Go to www.theprivateschoolleader.com/coaching to learn more about working with me 1-on-1. Being a private school leader is a VERY difficult job. You have to make hundreds of decisions every day, and you have to keep everyone safe, increase enrollment, keep the parents happy, keep the board happy, motivate the teachers, deal with student discipline, beat last year’s test scores and come in under budget. That can lead to you feeling tired, discouraged and stressed out. I’ve been there. That’s why I created THRIVE Academy just for you. THRIVE Academy is a digital course that will help you get out of survival mode and get back to feeling energized at school. To learn more, go to www.theprivateschoolleader.com/thrive  I am excited to share with you a new resource and I want to give this to you as a FREE GIFT to say “thank you” for listening to the podcast. It is called The 7 Secrets To Improving Teacher Morale. As private school leaders, we are always looking for ways to improve teacher morale at our schools, but it is hard to know where to start. Well, now you have a step by step plan and you can grab it at theprivateschoolleader.com/morale I want to give you a FREE gift called 7 Strategies To Effectively Deal With Difficult Teachers. Sometimes we need some courage and confidence to deal with difficult teachers. What you need is a plan! This guide is a step by step plan that you can use to help one of your difficult teachers improve their performance and improve their attitude. Go to theprivateschoolleader.com/difficult to grab this free guide! I want to say thank you for listening to the podcast by giving you a FREE GIFT. It is called The 7 Steps To Having A Successful Meeting With An Upset Parent. This guide is an 11 page pdf that gives you a step by step plan to have better meetings with the parents at your school. Every good coach has a game plan. Every good teacher has a lesson plan. Too many private school leaders don’t have a plan when they sit down to meet with an upset parent. Well, now you have a PLAN! You can grab this FREE GUIDE at www.theprivateschoolleader.com/meeting I’ve created a free resource for you called “The 6 Things That Every Private School Teacher Wants From Their Leader”. This guide is a 6 page pdf that will be a game changer for you. I guarantee you that if you do these 6 things, the teachers at your school will be happy to follow you. You can pick up your free guide by going to www.theprivateschoolleader.com/guide  I want to give you a gift to say “thank you” for listening to the podcast. I have created a FREE guide for you called “5 Strategies To Help You Work With Difficult Parents”. We know that working with parents is part of the job and most of our parents are great, but some of them can be very demanding and emotional and difficult. This guide will give you the tools that you need to build better relationships and have better meetings with the difficult parents at your school. Go to www.theprivateschoolleader.com/parents to grab the guide. Thank you again for listening every week! Please check out all of the free resources on my website that can help you serve and lead your school community. There are "Plug & Play PD's" (45 minute webinars with guided notes) as well as Top 10 Lists of Leadership Books, Productivity Books and TED Talks over at www.theprivateschoolleader.com/resources. You can grab the show notes for today's episode at www.theprivateschoolleader.com/episode117 Please write a review of this podcast and help the algorithm push this content out to more leaders. I would love to get your feedback about the podcast, ideas for future episodes and hear about how you are implementing these strategies in your life and at your school. You can email me at [email protected] Thanks!! I’ve created a FREE RESOURCE for you called “The Top 6 Ways To Protect Your School From a Lawsuit”. This is a 10 page pdf that will help you to keep your staff and students safe and help keep your school out of court. Litigation is expensive, time consuming and extremely stressful. This common sense guide will help you to be more intentional and proactive when it comes to protecting your school. You can grab “The Top 6 Ways To Protect Your School From a Lawsuit” at www.theprivateschoolleader.com/lawsuit. Thanks! I am excited to share a brand new resource with you. It is a 9 page pdf called: “How To Use Verbal Judo To Have Better Conversations With The Parents At Your School” What is “Verbal Judo”? "Verbal Judo" is a communication strategy that focuses on using words effectively to de-escalate conflict, resolve disputes, and achieve positive outcomes in various interpersonal interactions, particularly in high-pressure situations.  George Thompson and Jerry Jenkins wrote a book called Verbal Judo: The Gentle Art Of Persuasion. So, I have taken several important strategies from the book and applied them to your life as a private school leader. Grab your free copy of “How To Use Verbal Judo To Have Better Conversations With The Parents At Your School” at www.theprivateschoolleader.com/judo TRANSCRIPT: • ​Welcome ​to ​the ​Private ​School ​Leader ​podcast, ​where ​private ​school ​leaders ​learn ​how ​to ​thrive ​and ​not ​just ​survive ​as ​they ​serve ​and ​leadave ​their ​schools. ​• ​• ​I ​strongly ​believe ​that ​it ​is ​possible ​to ​have ​a ​long ​and ​happy ​and ​fulfilling ​career ​as ​a ​private ​school ​leader. ​• ​And ​my ​passion ​is ​to ​help ​you ​figure ​out ​exactly ​how ​to ​do ​just ​that ​right ​here ​on ​the ​Private ​School ​Leader ​podcast. ​And ​I'm ​your ​host, ​Mark ​Menkus. ​• ​• ​• ​So ​I ​want ​you ​to ​use ​your ​imagination. ​• ​• ​You're ​at ​school ​• ​and ​you ​hear ​laughter. ​You ​hear ​excited ​conversation ​from ​kids, ​kids ​interacting ​with ​teachers. ​• ​You ​see ​• ​• ​smiling ​kids ​• ​• ​doing ​interesting ​things. ​• ​• ​• ​It's ​memorable, ​it's ​awesome, ​it's ​colorful, ​it's ​noisy, ​it's ​fantastic. ​• ​• ​• ​So ​I ​want ​to ​ask ​you, ​• ​• ​• ​where ​• ​• ​on ​your ​campus ​is ​that ​happening? ​• ​• ​And ​is ​it ​happening ​in ​your ​office? ​• ​• ​• ​The ​laughter, ​the ​excited ​conversation, ​the ​smiling ​kids ​doing ​interesting ​things, ​all ​of ​those ​awesome ​things, ​is ​it ​happening ​inside ​your ​office? ​• ​• ​• ​And ​the ​answer ​is ​probably ​not. ​• ​• ​• ​And, ​you ​know, ​in ​your ​office, ​mostly ​• ​• ​• ​• ​• ​what's ​happening ​is ​meetings ​and ​• ​• ​taking ​a ​phone ​call ​from ​a ​parent, ​um, ​maybe ​dealing ​with ​a ​discipline ​issue, ​maybe ​meeting ​with ​a ​teacher ​or ​a ​couple ​of ​teachers, ​• ​• ​um, ​talking ​to ​the ​athletic ​director, ​• ​um, ​• ​• ​you ​know, ​• ​• ​meeting ​with ​a ​family ​that's ​a ​prospective ​family ​to ​the ​school, ​talking ​to ​board ​member ​on ​the ​phone ​or ​in ​person. ​You ​know, ​those ​are ​the ​things ​that ​happen ​a ​lot ​in ​our ​office. ​Maybe ​working ​on ​accreditation, ​self ​studies. ​You ​get ​it. ​• ​But ​• ​• ​• ​• ​• ​• ​• ​there ​is ​joy ​on ​your ​campus. ​• ​• ​It's ​just ​not ​in ​your ​office. ​• ​• ​• ​And ​so ​it's ​super ​important ​for ​us ​to ​engage ​with ​that ​joy ​and ​to ​remember ​why ​we're ​doing ​the ​hard ​thing, ​that ​we're ​doing ​this ​job. ​• ​• ​And ​so, ​on ​today's ​episode ​of ​the ​Private ​School ​Leader ​podcast, ​we're ​going ​to ​discuss ​the ​fact ​• ​• ​that ​there's ​joy ​on ​your ​campus. ​It's ​just ​not ​in ​your ​office. ​• ​• ​And ​I'm ​also ​going ​to ​give ​you ​some ​strategies ​of ​how ​you ​can ​go ​to ​the ​joy. ​• ​• ​• ​• The seven Secrets to Improving Teacher Morale can help improve school morale And ​before ​we ​jump ​into ​that, ​I ​want ​to ​give ​you ​a ​free ​resource ​just ​to ​say ​thank ​you ​for ​listening ​to ​the ​podcast. ​This ​one's ​called ​the ​seven ​Secrets ​to ​Improving ​Teacher ​Morale. ​And ​if ​you're ​listening ​to ​this ​in ​real ​time, ​it's ​still ​early ​January. ​• ​• ​And ​when ​that ​calendar ​flips ​over ​to ​January, ​• ​• ​and ​we ​see ​that ​we ​still ​have, ​you ​know, ​uh, ​half ​of ​a ​school ​year ​to ​go ​• ​• ​sometimes ​we ​are ​very ​motivated ​to ​try ​to ​improve ​certain ​things ​at ​our ​school. ​• ​• ​And ​one ​of ​those ​things, ​• ​• ​teacher ​morale ​is ​kind ​of ​elusive ​and ​kind ​of ​difficult ​to ​• ​• ​m ​• ​• ​In ​some ​way ​tangibly ​improve ​that. ​And ​so ​what ​you ​need ​is ​a ​plan. ​And ​you ​can ​check ​out ​the ​privatehoolade ​leader.com ​morale ​to ​grab ​your ​free ​guide ​that's ​called ​the ​7 ​Secrets ​to ​Improving ​teacher ​Morale. ​And ​I ​think ​that ​it ​will ​be ​a ​big ​help ​for ​you ​as ​you ​try ​to ​do ​that ​at ​your ​school. ​• ​• ​• ​• ​• ​And ​then ​I ​want ​to ​help ​you ​with ​your ​difficult ​job. ​You ​know, ​you ​have ​so ​many ​things ​on ​your ​plate ​and ​that ​plate ​continues ​to ​get ​more ​and ​more ​full. ​Nothing ​ever ​comes ​off ​that ​plate. ​And ​yet ​you're ​supposed ​to ​get ​it ​all ​done, ​• ​• ​• ​keep ​everyone ​happy. ​As ​far ​as ​the ​teachers ​and ​the ​parents ​• ​• ​• ​• ​improve ​upon ​last ​year's ​test ​scores, ​come ​in ​under ​budget. ​And ​when ​all ​that's ​said ​and ​done, ​um, ​you ​know, ​make ​sure ​that ​you ​• ​• ​• ​• ​• ​engage ​in ​some ​self ​care ​and ​try ​not ​to ​be ​a ​jerk ​to ​your ​family. ​• ​• ​• ​Okay, ​that ​sounds ​pretty ​impossible. ​And ​that's ​why ​we ​end ​up ​feeling ​tired ​and ​discouraged ​and ​stressed ​out ​and ​overwhelmed. ​And ​trust ​me, ​I've ​been ​there. ​• ​• ​And ​you ​know ​how ​at ​the ​beginning ​of ​every ​episode ​I ​say ​that ​I ​believe ​that ​it ​is ​possible ​for ​you ​to ​have ​a ​long ​and ​happy ​and ​fulfilling ​career ​as ​a ​private ​school ​leader? ​• ​Well, ​my ​question ​is, ​do ​you ​want ​that? ​Do ​you ​believe ​that? ​Do ​you ​want ​to ​go ​from ​how ​you're ​feeling ​right ​now ​to ​feeling ​like ​I ​could ​do ​this ​for ​a ​long ​time ​and ​feeling ​fulfilled ​and ​feeling ​happy ​to ​go ​to ​school? ​• ​• ​• ​• ​So ​I ​can ​help ​guide ​you ​through ​this ​transformation, ​step ​by ​step, ​strategy ​by ​strategy, ​• ​lesson ​by ​lesson, ​in ​the ​online ​course ​Thrive ​Academy. ​And ​I've ​taken ​everything ​that ​I've ​learned ​over ​the ​past ​33 ​years, ​• ​• ​put ​it ​into ​seven ​modules ​with ​some ​really, ​really ​practical ​step ​by ​step ​strategies. ​• ​• ​And ​I ​want ​to ​help ​you ​go ​from ​surviving ​to ​thriving. ​And ​you ​can ​go ​to ​the ​privateschooladeer.com ​thrive ​• ​to ​learn ​more. ​But ​I ​really ​believe ​that ​it ​can ​change ​your ​life. ​• ​• ​• We're talking about how there's joy on your campus So ​on, ​uh, ​today's ​episode, ​we're ​talking ​about ​how ​there's ​joy ​on ​your ​campus. ​It's ​just ​not ​in ​your ​office. ​• ​And ​we're ​going ​to ​talk ​a ​few ​things ​here. ​• ​• ​We're ​going ​to ​talk ​about ​joy ​that's ​happening ​on ​campus ​during ​the ​day, ​• ​• ​joy ​that's ​happening ​on ​your ​campus ​after ​school. ​• ​• ​• ​What ​are ​the ​benefits ​to ​you ​to ​engage ​with ​that ​joy? ​• ​And ​then ​what ​are ​a ​few ​strategies ​that ​you ​can ​use ​to ​make ​sure ​that ​you ​are ​going ​to ​the ​joy. ​• ​• ​• ​So ​first ​of ​all, ​• ​• ​• ​• ​joy ​that's ​happening ​during ​the ​day. ​• ​• ​Um, ​I'm ​just ​going ​toa ​list ​a ​few ​things ​and ​then ​make ​a ​comment ​on ​it, ​but ​I ​would ​love ​for ​you ​to ​think ​about ​how ​you ​can ​add ​to ​this ​list. ​First ​of ​all, ​recess. ​• ​• ​Um, ​you ​know, ​I, ​over ​the ​years ​have ​been ​sled ​riding ​Building ​snowman. ​A ​snowman ​or ​multiple ​snowmen. ​• ​• ​Um, ​swinging, ​playing ​basketball. ​• ​U. ​Um, ​you ​know, ​and ​sometimes ​I'll ​be ​laughing ​and ​I'm, ​you ​know, ​building ​a ​snowman ​or ​building ​a ​snow ​• ​• ​castle ​with ​the ​kids ​or ​you ​know, ​messing ​around ​at ​recess ​and ​thinking, ​this ​is ​awesome. ​I ​get ​paid ​for ​this. ​And ​you ​know, ​it'd ​be ​awesome ​if ​that ​was ​the ​only ​thing ​that ​we ​did. ​But ​it ​is ​something ​that ​we ​can ​do ​is ​interact ​with ​kids ​at ​recess. ​• ​• ​Um, ​another ​place ​where ​joy ​actually ​happens ​during ​the ​day ​is ​at ​lunch. ​• ​• ​You ​know, ​and ​I ​like ​to ​go ​over, ​let's ​say, ​sit ​down ​at ​the ​sixth ​grade ​girls ​table ​and ​just ​say, ​well, ​objectively, ​1989 ​is ​the ​best ​Taylor ​Swift ​album. ​And ​then ​just ​see ​what ​happens. ​Of ​course ​they're ​all ​going ​to ​have ​an ​opinion ​and ​it's ​fun ​just ​to ​talk ​to ​them ​or ​sit ​down ​with ​any ​of ​the ​kids ​and ​talk ​about ​sports ​or ​movies ​or ​the ​music ​that ​they're ​into, ​video ​games. ​• ​And ​that ​might ​what ​I ​just ​described ​be ​a ​better ​fit ​for ​tweens ​and ​teens. ​But ​you ​can ​sit ​down ​and ​talk ​to ​the ​younger ​kids ​too, ​and ​they ​have ​a ​lot ​of ​ideas. ​You ​know, ​just ​as ​the ​school ​leader, ​you'd ​be ​like, ​• ​you ​know, ​what's, ​what's ​one ​way ​we ​can ​improve ​the ​school. ​Now ​you're ​going ​to ​get ​• ​• ​• ​answers ​that ​I've ​gotten ​over ​the ​years, ​like ​replace ​the ​water ​in ​the ​water ​fountains ​with ​chocolate ​milk ​or ​build ​a ​roller ​coaster ​on ​the ​playground. ​But ​that's ​what, ​• ​• ​that's ​what ​makes ​it ​fun ​and ​that's ​what ​makes ​it ​joyful. ​Um, ​um, ​so ​recess, ​lunch, ​even ​class ​changes. ​Just ​• ​especially ​in ​um, ​um, ​• ​you ​know, ​fourth ​grade ​through ​12th ​grade. ​Um, ​um, ​just ​to ​be ​out ​there ​and ​interacting ​with ​the ​kids. ​Morning ​home ​room. ​I ​love ​morning ​homeom. ​• ​• ​Especially ​fourth ​and ​fifth ​grade ​at ​our ​school. ​• ​They're ​working ​on ​puzzles, ​they're ​just, ​you ​know, ​playing ​some ​board ​games, ​• ​• ​• ​um, ​just ​to ​go ​in ​there ​and ​just ​interact ​with ​them ​for ​just ​a ​few ​minutes. ​• ​• ​• ​Joy ​happening ​during ​the ​day. ​I ​think ​that ​it's ​happening ​in ​all ​of ​the ​classes. ​• ​• ​Um, ​and ​some ​of ​it ​depends ​on ​what ​they're ​doing ​as ​far ​as ​the ​age ​of ​the ​kids. ​So ​they, ​the ​little ​ones ​might ​be ​building ​something ​out ​of ​blocks ​or ​making ​a ​fort. ​Um, ​um, ​and ​you ​know, ​your ​10th ​graders ​might ​be ​dissecting ​a ​fetal ​pig ​in ​biology ​class, ​but ​it's ​happy ​kids ​• ​• ​doing ​interesting ​things ​and ​that ​it's ​going ​to ​bring ​you ​joy. ​See, ​not ​only ​is ​it ​joyful ​what's ​actually ​happening ​out ​there ​on ​campus, ​but ​it's ​going ​to ​bring ​you ​joy. ​And ​we're ​going ​to ​talk ​about ​that ​more ​in ​just ​a ​moment. ​• ​• ​I've ​also ​found ​that ​in ​addition ​to ​the ​core ​academic ​classes, ​that ​specials ​is ​an ​awesome ​place ​to ​visit ​because ​it ​seems ​like ​they're ​always ​doing ​something ​super ​interesting ​in ​art ​• ​or ​in ​music ​class. ​There's ​been ​more ​than ​one ​time ​where ​I've ​walked ​in ​and ​I'm ​playing ​a ​dejmbbe ​drum ​or ​I'm ​playing ​a ​ukulele, ​and, ​you ​know, ​because ​they're ​doing ​it ​and ​that's ​fun. ​Um, ​• ​• ​you ​know, ​PE ​class, ​um, ​a ​little ​game ​of ​kickball, ​computer ​class ​where ​they're ​testing ​out ​their ​robots. ​Um, ​library, ​• ​• ​um, ​when ​they're ​researching ​something ​or ​reading ​a ​book. ​• ​• ​• ​• ​• ​Joy ​happening ​on ​your ​campus. ​• ​• ​Um, ​a ​couple ​other ​places ​would ​be, ​you ​know, ​in ​class, ​when ​group ​projects ​are ​happening, ​presentations ​are ​being ​given, ​skits ​are ​being ​performed, ​• ​club ​time, ​• ​• ​• ​• ​assemblies, ​• ​your ​religious ​service, ​you ​know, ​whether ​that's ​chapel ​or ​mass ​or ​maybe ​tefila ​in ​a ​Jewish ​day ​school. ​• ​• ​Um, ​the ​holiday ​celebrations ​• ​• ​• ​that ​happen, ​spirit ​days, ​fundraisers. ​• ​• ​• ​• ​• ​• ​These ​are ​the ​circulatory ​system ​of ​our ​school. ​We ​could ​probably ​list ​a ​hundred ​things ​that ​are ​happening ​every ​day ​• ​that ​are ​fun, ​that ​are ​joyful. ​• ​• ​And ​the ​purpose ​of ​this ​episode ​is ​to ​remind ​you ​that ​there ​is ​joy ​on ​your ​campus. ​• ​• ​You ​just ​have ​to ​go ​to ​the ​joy ​because ​that ​joy ​is ​typically ​not ​happening ​in ​your ​office. ​I ​know ​that ​sometimes ​you ​get ​a ​visit. ​• ​And ​aren't ​those ​amazing? ​Aren't ​those ​awesome ​when ​the ​kids ​come ​and ​they're ​on ​a ​scavenger ​hunt ​or ​they ​are ​delivering ​a ​card ​to ​you ​and ​the ​office ​staff ​or ​whatever? ​But ​it's ​like, ​we ​need ​to ​go ​to ​the ​joy. The theme of today's episode is that we need to be intentional about going to joy Okay, ​• ​the ​theme ​of ​today's ​episode ​is ​that ​we ​need ​to ​be ​intentional ​about ​going ​to ​the ​joy. ​• ​• ​Al ​right. ​So ​I ​talked ​a ​little ​bit ​about ​the ​joy ​that's ​happening ​during ​the ​school ​day. ​There's ​also ​fun, ​joyful ​things ​that ​are ​happening ​after ​school. ​So ​whether ​it's ​a ​performance, ​I ​mean, ​I'm ​a ​big ​fan ​of ​the ​spring ​musical. ​• ​Um, ​it ​could ​be ​the ​band ​concert, ​um, ​the ​choral ​concert, ​a ​music ​recital, ​a ​dance ​• ​recital, ​• ​• ​um, ​athletics, ​you ​know, ​whether ​it's ​a ​soccer ​game ​or ​basketball ​or ​volleyball ​or ​whatever ​the ​case ​might ​be. ​• ​And ​• ​I'm ​going ​to ​talk ​in ​a ​few ​minutes ​about ​how, ​you ​know, ​you ​don't ​have ​to ​go ​to ​everything, ​• ​• ​but ​if ​you're ​strategic, ​you ​can ​make, ​quote, ​unquot, ​an ​appearance, ​• ​• ​• ​show ​support ​to ​the ​kids ​and ​to ​the ​coaches, ​• ​• ​• ​um, ​• ​show ​that ​to ​the ​parents ​that ​are ​in ​attendance ​as ​fans ​• ​that, ​you ​know, ​you ​care ​about ​the ​sports ​program ​too. ​But ​you ​can ​do ​it ​in ​a ​strategic ​way ​where ​you ​don't ​have ​to ​be ​at ​every ​athletic ​event ​for ​every ​minute ​of ​every ​game. ​• ​• ​We'll ​get ​to ​that ​in ​a ​couple ​minutes. ​• ​• ​• ​Um, ​other ​times, ​other ​places ​where ​joy ​is ​happening ​on ​your ​campus ​after ​school ​is ​after ​school ​programming ​for ​the ​lower ​school ​kids. ​So ​maybe ​the ​ones ​that ​are, ​uh, ​depending ​on ​your ​school, ​a ​little ​young ​for, ​• ​• ​• ​• ​• ​um, ​• ​organized ​sports ​or ​for ​the ​musical, ​• ​• ​um, ​production ​is, ​you ​know, ​they're ​having ​a ​chess ​club ​or ​they're ​having ​a ​science ​club, ​or ​• ​it's ​Mighty ​Kick ​Soccer ​or, ​you ​know, ​those ​kinds ​of ​things ​too. ​• ​• ​Your ​science ​fair. ​Even ​the ​day ​of ​giving, ​you ​know, ​you've ​got ​Thanksgiving ​and ​then ​you've ​got ​Black ​Friday ​and ​Small ​Business ​Saturday, ​and ​then ​you've ​got ​Cyber ​Monday. ​But ​then ​Tuesday ​is ​day ​of ​giving. ​Most ​of ​you ​know ​that. ​And ​• ​• ​at ​our ​school, ​we ​have ​kids ​who, ​in ​• ​• ​• ​• ​middle, ​um, ​• ​school ​who ​will ​stay ​and ​make ​phone ​calls ​to ​potential ​donors ​or ​people ​who ​donated ​in ​the ​past ​and ​ask ​them ​to ​make ​a ​donation ​again ​to ​the ​school. ​And ​just ​hanging ​out ​with ​the ​kids ​and ​they ​get ​some ​pizza ​and ​they're ​happy ​to ​be ​there ​and ​volunteer. ​• ​Um, ​• ​• ​you ​know, ​fundraisers, ​car ​washes, ​you ​know, ​different ​things ​like ​that. ​And ​I'm ​not ​saying ​you ​need ​to ​be ​at ​all ​of ​them. ​I'm ​just ​trying ​to ​give ​you ​this ​long ​list ​and ​remind ​you ​that ​• ​those ​four ​walls ​in ​your ​office, ​the ​things ​that ​happen ​inside ​your ​office, ​• ​• ​sometimes ​some ​of ​them ​are ​happy ​things. ​• ​• ​But ​• ​there ​are ​a ​lot ​more ​joyful, ​happy ​things ​happening ​on ​your ​campus ​than ​what's ​happening ​in ​your ​office. ​And ​the ​reason ​you ​got ​into ​education ​in ​the ​first ​place ​was ​because ​of ​the ​joy ​and ​the ​happiness ​and ​the ​loud ​voices ​and ​the ​• ​• ​laughter ​and ​the ​excited, ​um, ​• ​you ​know, ​tone ​of ​voice ​and ​all ​of ​those ​things. ​• ​• ​But ​I ​think ​that ​the ​longer ​that ​we ​are ​school ​leaders, ​and ​especially ​the ​higher ​up ​that ​we ​go ​in ​our ​leadership ​journey ​on ​the ​org ​chart, ​• ​the ​further ​we ​get ​away ​from ​those ​moments. ​But ​it ​doesn't ​have ​to ​be ​that ​way. ​• ​• ​So ​then ​what ​are ​some ​of ​the ​benefits ​• ​• ​• ​• ​• ​to ​going ​to ​the ​joy? ​• ​• ​There's ​joy ​on ​your ​campus. ​It's ​just ​not ​in ​your ​office. ​Well, ​first ​of ​all, ​a, ​uh, ​benefit ​is ​your ​social ​emotional ​health, ​your ​mental ​health ​• ​• ​making ​you ​happy. ​• ​• ​Um, ​a ​little ​dopamine ​• ​• ​reducing ​stress, ​elevating ​your ​mood. ​• ​• ​Um, ​you ​know, ​less ​cortisol, ​more ​dopamine, ​• ​• ​• ​• ​• ​um, ​just ​being ​in ​those ​spots ​to ​engage ​with ​or ​observe ​or ​see ​those ​happy ​kids. ​• ​• ​• ​• ​And ​• ​another ​benefit ​is, ​is ​that ​it ​reconnects ​you ​with ​your ​purpose ​and ​meaning ​as ​a ​school ​leader. ​• ​• ​You ​know, ​many ​of ​us ​came ​up ​through ​as ​teachers, ​• ​• ​and ​we ​were ​maybe ​even ​a ​teaching ​principal. ​Like, ​I ​Was ​for ​many ​years. ​• ​• ​But ​again, ​like ​I ​said, ​the ​further ​you ​get ​into ​your ​career ​and ​the ​higher, ​the ​bigger ​your ​school ​gets. ​And ​maybe ​if ​you ​move ​up ​from ​a ​division ​head ​to ​head ​of ​school, ​then, ​you ​know, ​we ​keep ​getting ​further ​and ​further ​away ​• ​• ​from ​those ​moments ​of ​joy. ​And ​I ​know ​that ​some ​of ​you ​out ​there, ​maybe ​I'm ​preaching ​to ​the ​choir ​a ​little ​bit ​because ​you ​do ​regularly, ​• ​• ​um, ​• ​you ​know, ​engage. ​I ​coach ​a ​guy ​in ​Missouri ​who, ​you ​know, ​every ​single ​day ​he's ​in ​the ​lunchroom, ​um, ​either ​serving ​lunch ​or ​hang ​out ​with ​the ​teachers ​at ​the ​table ​where ​the ​teachers ​sit ​and ​eat ​or ​hang ​out ​with ​the ​kids ​or ​all ​of ​the ​above ​every ​single ​day. ​It's ​a ​non ​negotiable ​and ​some ​of ​you ​have ​your ​non ​negotiables. ​But ​I ​just ​think ​based ​on ​talking ​to ​a ​lot ​of ​my ​clients ​and ​a ​lot ​of ​students ​in ​Thrive ​Academy ​office ​hours, ​• ​that ​this ​is ​something ​that ​we ​wish ​that ​we ​had ​more ​time ​to ​do. ​I ​really ​wish ​I ​had ​more ​time ​to ​blank. ​• ​• ​And ​usually ​the ​thing ​that's ​filling ​in ​that ​blank ​has ​something ​to ​do ​with ​these ​joyful ​moments ​and ​it ​has ​something ​to ​do ​with ​being ​in ​classrooms ​more. ​• ​• ​So. ​• ​• ​• ​Other ​benefits, ​in ​addition ​to ​connecting, ​reconnecting ​you ​with ​your ​purpose ​and ​meaning, ​there's ​just ​physical ​benefits ​from ​being ​up ​and ​moving ​around. ​That's ​why ​I ​love ​recess ​so ​much. ​It ​checks ​so ​many ​boxes. ​It ​kills ​so ​many ​birds ​with ​one ​stone. ​You ​re, ​um, ​I'm, ​um, ​up, ​• ​• ​• ​I'm, ​um, ​moving, ​physically, ​getting ​fresh ​air, ​• ​• ​um, ​interacting ​with ​kids. ​• ​• ​Um, ​there's ​just ​so ​many ​benefits ​to ​that ​and ​just ​being ​up ​and ​moving ​through ​the ​school. ​• ​• ​Um, ​our ​school ​has ​four ​floors ​and ​so ​there's ​a ​lot ​of ​stairs. ​And ​so ​again, ​more ​physical ​benefits ​to ​just ​being ​up ​and ​moving. ​• ​• ​Um, ​• ​• ​other ​benefits. ​Visible ​leaders ​are ​more ​respected, ​seen ​as ​more ​credible ​and ​seen ​as ​more ​trustworthy ​from ​• ​• ​• ​• ​the, ​um, ​employees ​of ​that ​organization. ​So ​at ​your ​school, ​when ​you're ​a ​visible ​leader, ​• ​• ​• ​• ​the ​respect ​is ​going ​to ​increase ​that ​you ​get ​it, ​um, ​that ​you're ​credible, ​that ​you're ​there, ​that ​you ​are ​supportive. ​• ​• ​All ​of ​the ​things ​that ​you're ​looking ​for, ​• ​• ​being ​visible ​and ​being ​out ​and ​about ​so ​that ​you ​can ​engage ​with ​those ​joyous, ​happy ​moments ​on ​campus, ​have ​a ​double, ​triple ​benefit ​because ​of ​the ​way ​that ​the ​staff ​is ​going ​to ​perceive ​and ​react ​to ​that. ​• ​And ​then ​speaking ​of ​staff, ​I ​really ​believe ​strongly ​that ​being ​a ​visible ​leader ​and ​being ​out ​and ​about ​in ​the ​school ​leads ​to ​a, ​uh, ​higher ​retention ​of ​staff. ​That's ​hard ​to ​measure. ​But ​you ​know, ​stronger ​relationships ​lead ​to ​an ​enhanced ​school ​culture, ​leads ​to ​higherire, ​• ​um, ​Your ​predict ​the ​predictability ​of ​you ​being ​visible, ​and ​then ​also ​you ​just ​interacting ​and ​building ​those ​relationships. ​• ​• ​• ​That ​all ​leads ​to ​psychological ​safety, ​which ​definitely ​• ​enhances ​school ​culture. ​• ​• ​And ​then ​also ​retention ​of ​students. ​Because ​I've ​mentioned ​it ​before ​on ​the ​podcast ​that ​when ​I'm ​out ​and ​about ​in ​the ​school, ​then ​I'm ​also ​taking ​pictures ​on ​my ​phone. ​And ​then ​when ​I'm ​warming ​up ​my ​lunch ​for ​six ​minutes ​once ​a ​day, ​I'm ​pulling ​out ​my ​phone ​and ​looking ​at ​my ​photo ​gallery ​from ​the ​previous ​24 ​hours ​• ​and ​then, ​you ​know, ​hitting ​send ​on ​some ​of ​those ​photos ​to ​the ​parents. ​• ​• ​Happy ​kids ​doing ​interesting ​things, ​• ​• ​• ​• ​photos ​of ​those ​things ​happening, ​being ​sent ​to ​parents ​is ​going ​to ​increase ​• ​student ​retention. ​• ​• ​Um, ​it ​can ​even ​boost ​your ​creativity. ​Um, ​because ​you're ​out ​and ​about ​and ​you're ​thinking, ​oh, ​yeah, ​well, ​we ​could ​do ​this ​or ​that ​or ​the ​other ​thing. ​And, ​um, ​when ​you ​see ​these ​things ​happening ​in ​real ​time, ​it ​also ​boosts ​your ​creativity ​for ​problem ​solving ​and ​be ​like, ​okay, ​y ​saw, ​but ​that ​classroom ​seemed ​really ​crowded ​or ​they ​didn't ​have ​access ​to ​this. ​And ​so ​• ​another ​one ​is ​just, ​you're ​modeling ​that ​positive ​leadership ​that ​you ​and ​I ​both ​want ​to ​display. ​• ​• ​Um, ​but ​it's ​very ​difficult ​to ​get ​out ​of ​our ​offices. ​• You need to be intentional about going to the joy on your campus And ​right ​before ​I ​jump ​into ​the ​strategies ​and ​that's ​how ​we're ​going ​to ​wrap ​up ​this ​episode, ​is ​giving ​you ​a ​few ​strategies ​on ​how ​to ​make ​sure ​that ​you ​are ​going ​to ​the ​joy ​that's ​on ​your ​campus. ​I ​do ​want ​to ​just ​pause ​and ​acknowledge ​that ​it ​is ​really ​hard ​to ​get ​out ​of ​our ​office. ​• ​• ​• ​• ​I ​said ​before, ​your ​plate ​is ​full, ​• ​• ​• ​it ​gets ​more ​full. ​• ​And ​you're ​trying ​your ​best ​and ​you ​have ​good ​intentions ​and ​you ​really, ​really ​want ​to ​get ​out ​more, ​• ​• ​and ​you ​just ​can't ​because ​things ​keep ​happening ​wave ​after ​wave ​after ​wave. ​• ​• ​And ​this ​is ​especially ​true ​if ​you ​have ​a ​fairly ​big ​school ​and ​a ​fairly ​lean ​leadership ​team. ​And ​maybe ​the ​leadership ​team ​is ​you. ​• ​• ​• ​• ​• ​But ​• ​• ​• ​you ​still ​need ​to ​derive ​those ​benefits ​from ​going ​to ​the ​joy. ​• ​• ​The ​mental ​health, ​• ​the ​dopamine, ​the ​joy, ​the ​reconnecting ​with ​why ​the ​heck ​am ​I ​doing ​this? ​And ​why ​is ​this ​so ​hard? ​• ​• ​It ​just ​continues ​to ​remind ​you, ​oh, ​yeah, ​• ​• ​this ​is ​why. ​• ​• ​And ​so ​even ​though ​it ​is ​true ​that ​it's ​very ​difficult ​to ​get ​out ​and ​about ​and ​get ​to ​these ​places ​that ​I'm ​mentioning ​at ​these ​moments, ​• ​• ​• ​it's ​still ​very, ​very, ​very ​beneficial ​in ​many, ​many ​ways. ​• ​• ​So ​I ​just ​want ​to ​acknowledge ​that. ​I'm ​not ​saying ​this ​is ​easy. ​I'm ​not ​saying ​that ​it's, ​you ​know, ​um, ​like ​falling ​off ​a ​log ​to ​just ​be ​able ​to ​go ​to ​the ​Joy. ​• ​• ​And ​really ​what ​you ​need ​are ​a ​couple ​strategies ​to ​be ​intentional ​and ​make ​sure ​that ​it ​happens. ​You ​know, ​that ​we're ​all ​about ​being ​intentional ​on ​this ​podcast ​and ​so ​that's ​what ​we're ​going ​to ​do ​now. Being strategic about going to after school events can help boost school joy So ​let's ​talk ​a ​little ​bit ​of ​uh, ​what ​are ​some ​strategies ​that ​you ​can ​use ​to ​make ​sure ​that ​you ​are ​going ​to ​the ​joy ​that ​exists ​on ​your ​campus? ​• ​• ​So ​the ​first ​one ​is ​to ​be ​strategic. ​• ​And ​I ​would ​say ​that ​a ​little ​goes ​a ​long ​way. ​And ​so ​what ​I ​mean ​is ​let's ​not ​go ​• ​• ​if ​you ​just ​are ​really, ​really ​• ​• ​• ​• ​• ​at ​a ​point ​where ​this ​is ​almost ​non ​existent ​or ​it ​doesn't ​happen ​very ​much ​what ​I'm ​talking ​about, ​then ​let's ​just ​add ​a ​little ​bit, ​you ​know, ​maybe ​15 ​minutes ​twice ​a ​week. ​Like ​we ​can't ​treat ​this ​like ​it's ​a ​New ​Year's ​resolution ​or ​like ​it's ​quitting ​smoking ​cold ​turkey, ​• ​um, ​because ​it's ​going ​to ​be ​too ​big ​and ​then ​it's ​not ​going ​to ​be ​sustainable. ​So ​a ​little ​goes ​a ​long ​way. ​You ​know, ​those ​interactions. ​• ​• ​U. ​Um, ​• ​and ​then ​another ​thing ​about ​being ​strategic, ​I ​was ​talking ​before ​about ​those ​after ​school ​events. ​• ​• ​You ​know, ​often ​what ​I'll ​do, ​whether ​it's ​a ​basketball ​game ​and ​it's ​a, ​uh, ​JV ​in ​a ​varsity ​game ​back ​to ​back ​or ​if ​it's ​a ​soccer ​game ​on ​the ​soccer ​field ​and ​it's ​a ​jv, ​a ​varsity ​game ​back ​to ​back, ​• ​• ​you ​know, ​I'll ​go ​for ​halfime. ​I'll ​go ​at ​halftime ​in ​the ​first ​game ​and ​stay ​till ​half ​time ​of ​the ​second ​game. ​And ​so, ​um, ​I'm ​supporting ​the ​kids, ​I'm ​supporting ​the ​coaches. ​• ​• ​I'm ​um, ​let's ​face ​it, ​making ​appearance ​and ​being ​seen ​by ​the ​parents, ​but ​also ​kind ​of ​vibing ​with ​the ​kids ​in ​between ​games ​and ​off ​on ​the ​sideline ​there. ​And ​but ​I ​didn't ​stay ​for ​both ​games ​all ​the ​way ​till ​the ​end ​of ​the ​game ​and ​then ​get ​caught ​up ​with ​parents ​and ​all ​that. ​You ​know, ​halftime ​to ​halfime ​is ​a ​pretty ​good ​strategy. ​And ​that ​just ​gives ​you ​a ​thought ​about ​how ​you ​can ​be ​creative, ​• ​• ​um, ​when ​you're ​being ​strategic ​about ​going ​to ​the ​Joy, ​but ​especially ​when ​it ​comes ​to ​after ​school ​events. ​• ​• ​And ​then ​strategy ​number ​two ​is ​to ​make ​it ​known. ​• ​And ​so ​what ​I ​mean ​by ​that ​is, ​is ​that ​you ​need ​to ​let ​your ​teachers ​know ​• ​• ​• ​• ​that ​you ​really, ​really ​want ​them ​to ​email ​you ​when ​something ​is ​happening. ​Now ​you're ​not ​going ​to ​be ​able ​to ​make ​it ​to ​all ​those ​things, ​• ​• ​but ​you're ​not ​going ​to ​make ​it ​to ​Any ​of ​those ​things ​if ​you ​don't ​know ​they're ​happening, ​unless ​it's ​just ​blind ​luck ​that ​you ​happen ​to ​show ​up. ​So ​I'm ​talking ​about ​when ​the ​seventh ​graders ​are ​testing ​their ​robots ​on ​the ​little ​course ​that ​they've ​made ​in ​the ​computer ​room. ​• ​• ​Um, ​the ​fourth ​graders ​are ​testing ​their ​catapults ​that ​they ​built ​in, ​um, ​science ​class. ​• ​• ​Um, ​• ​• ​the ​eighth ​graders ​are, ​• ​• ​you ​know, ​recording ​their, ​or ​not ​recording, ​but ​they're ​rehearsing ​their ​song ​that ​they're ​going ​to ​sing ​at ​eighth ​grade ​graduation. ​• ​• ​• ​Um, ​this ​group's ​playing ​a ​song ​on ​the ​ukulele. ​Um, ​these ​kids ​are ​dissecting. ​I ​remember ​one ​time ​8th ​grade ​algebra ​teacher ​said, ​hey, ​we're ​doing ​Barbie ​bungee. ​I ​didn't ​know ​what ​Barbie ​bungee ​was, ​but ​they're ​somehow ​doing ​a ​thing ​with ​a ​Barbie ​doll ​on ​a ​bungee ​cord, ​a ​bunch ​of ​rubber ​bands ​• ​• ​to ​do ​a ​scatter ​plot ​diagram. ​Maybe ​some ​of ​you ​know ​what ​that ​is. ​Um, ​I ​still ​don't ​know ​what ​that ​is. ​But ​when ​these ​things ​are ​happening ​and ​you ​know ​that ​they ​are, ​and ​then ​you ​can ​put ​it ​into ​your ​calendar ​and ​I'll ​get ​to ​that ​in ​a ​moment. ​And ​again, ​it's ​just ​five ​or ​10 ​minutes ​that ​you're ​going, ​um, ​• ​and ​showing ​up ​and ​being ​there ​and ​it's ​fun ​for ​you. ​• ​• ​But ​there's ​also ​all ​of ​those ​other ​benefits ​as ​well. One strategy is to claim some white space on your schedule And ​that ​leads ​me ​to ​strategy ​number ​three, ​which ​is ​claim ​some ​white ​space. ​So ​I've ​talked ​about ​that ​before ​on ​the ​podcast ​about ​claiming ​white ​space. ​And ​really ​what ​it ​is ​is ​that ​• ​I ​think ​on ​Friday ​afternoon ​or ​on ​Sunday ​afternoon, ​when ​you're ​looking ​at ​the ​week ​ahead, ​• ​• ​• ​you've ​got ​your ​things ​that ​you ​have ​to ​do ​and ​they're ​in ​your ​schedule. ​• ​And ​• ​• ​even ​though ​that ​takes ​up ​a ​lot ​of ​time, ​and ​I ​know ​that ​we ​have ​teaching ​principals ​listening ​and ​you've ​got ​your ​fifth ​grade ​language ​arts ​class ​or ​your ​seventh ​grade ​social ​studies ​class, ​and ​that's ​in ​there ​too. ​• ​Um, ​but ​there's ​still ​going ​to ​be ​white ​space ​on ​your ​calendar. ​And ​so ​you ​can ​claim ​• ​• ​just ​across ​the ​board ​on ​many ​of ​the ​days, ​you ​know, ​your ​quote ​unquote ​morning ​rounds, ​you ​know, ​you're ​going ​to ​get ​around ​to ​the ​classrooms ​or ​you're ​going ​toa ​be ​in ​the ​halls ​during ​arrival. ​Um, ​you ​know, ​whatever ​it ​is, ​• ​• ​these ​things ​that ​I'm ​talking ​about, ​when ​you ​know ​that ​they're ​happening, ​whether ​it's ​recess ​or ​lunch, ​you ​just ​claim ​that ​and ​you ​put ​it ​in ​there ​and ​you ​treat ​it ​like ​an ​important ​appointment, ​like ​it's ​with ​a ​donor ​or ​like ​it's ​with ​a ​board ​Member ​and ​then ​only ​the ​true ​emergencies ​are ​going ​to ​keep ​you ​from ​going ​to ​the ​thing. ​• ​• ​And ​remember, ​start ​small, ​• ​but ​be ​intentional ​and ​claim ​the ​white ​space. ​And ​so ​for ​me, ​• ​• ​um, ​just ​a ​quick ​example ​is, ​• ​you ​know, ​the ​recess ​lunch ​block ​for ​me ​is ​a ​non ​negotiable ​unless ​there ​is, ​• ​• ​um, ​um, ​a ​meeting, ​• ​um, ​of ​the ​middle ​school ​teachers ​or ​the ​intermediate ​school ​teachers. ​And ​that's ​when ​we ​meet ​• ​because ​it's ​easier ​to ​get ​coverage ​for ​recess ​than ​it ​is ​to ​get ​coverage ​for ​a ​bunch ​of ​classes. ​• ​• ​And ​so ​almost ​every ​day, ​you ​know, ​that ​recessed ​lunch ​block, ​• ​• ​um, ​• ​• ​• ​• ​• ​• ​I'm ​able ​to ​see ​the ​kids ​and ​interact ​with ​the ​kids ​and ​kind ​of, ​• ​um, ​in ​an ​informal ​way ​and ​• ​• ​ask ​them ​questions ​and ​• ​• ​• ​• ​• ​similarly ​with ​the ​teachers ​because ​most ​of ​the ​teachers ​that ​I ​supervise ​are ​either ​on ​lunch ​duty ​or ​recess ​duty. ​And ​you ​know, ​maybe ​you ​can't ​do ​that ​every ​way ​every ​day, ​but ​can ​you ​do ​it ​once ​a ​week? ​I ​think ​the ​answer ​is ​yes. ​Like, ​we ​have ​to ​get ​past ​these ​limiting ​beliefs ​in ​this ​scarcity ​mindset ​about ​time. ​• ​Because ​here's ​the ​problem. ​• ​When ​we ​go ​week ​after ​week ​after ​week, ​and ​then ​you ​stop ​and ​you ​wonder, ​did ​I ​even ​see ​a ​kid ​today ​• ​or ​did ​I ​see ​a ​kid ​yesterday? ​• ​• ​Um, ​because ​you're ​just ​up ​to ​your ​elbows ​in ​work. ​I ​get ​that. ​• ​But ​• ​• ​• ​re. ​• ​• ​• ​• ​• ​• ​We're ​losing ​the ​joy ​of ​why ​we're ​losing ​the ​purpose ​and ​the ​connection ​to ​the ​meaningful ​work ​when ​we're ​not ​interacting ​with ​kids, ​when ​we're ​not ​interacting ​with ​teachers. ​• ​And ​so ​• ​• ​• ​• ​• ​even ​if ​you ​start ​small, ​Even ​if ​it's ​• ​15 ​minutes ​twice ​a ​week, ​• ​um, ​and ​then ​you ​build ​from ​there, ​just ​start. ​• ​• ​• ​And ​then, ​um, ​two ​last ​strategies. ​One ​is ​the ​weekly ​pop ​in. ​I've ​described ​this ​before ​on ​the ​podcast, ​but ​I'll ​do ​it ​quickly ​again ​here ​• ​once ​a ​week ​for ​an ​hour. ​• ​• ​Um, ​um, ​supervising ​fourth ​through ​eighth ​grade ​each. ​That's ​five ​grades. ​Each ​grade ​has ​two ​homerooms. ​So ​at ​any ​given ​time ​all ​of ​my ​students ​will ​be ​at ​one ​of, ​they'll ​be ​in ​10 ​spots. ​Okay? ​And ​the ​kids ​are ​on ​second, ​third ​or ​fourth ​floor. ​And ​so ​let's ​say ​it's ​Wednesdays ​from ​11 ​to ​12. ​• ​• ​I ​will ​start ​on ​the ​fourth ​floor ​and ​I'll ​just ​spend ​five ​minutes ​wherever ​kids ​are. ​• ​• ​So ​I ​walk ​into ​the ​music ​room. ​4A ​is ​in ​there, ​and ​then ​I ​go ​out ​to ​the ​gym ​and ​7B ​is ​out ​there. ​And ​then ​I ​go ​down ​to ​the ​science ​room ​on ​the ​third ​floor ​and ​you ​know, ​• ​• ​um, ​seven ​uh, ​or ​eight ​A ​is ​in ​there. ​So ​you ​know ​what ​I ​mean? ​And ​then ​you're ​five ​minutes, ​• ​• ​um, ​just ​kind ​of ​like ​you ​know, ​hanging ​out ​and ​seeing ​what ​they're ​doing. ​And, ​you ​know, ​I ​would ​definitely ​recommend ​that ​you ​let ​the ​teachers ​know ​ahead ​of ​time ​if ​this ​is ​something ​that ​you're ​going ​to ​start. ​And ​also ​be ​very ​clear ​about ​why ​you're ​doing ​this. ​It's ​not ​a ​gotcha. ​It's ​just ​that, ​you ​know, ​just ​be ​honest. ​You ​want ​to ​get ​out ​and ​about ​more ​and ​you ​want ​to ​be ​intentional. ​And ​so ​you're ​just ​going ​toa ​schedule ​this. ​You ​can ​even ​let ​them ​know ​when, ​um, ​• ​you ​know, ​it ​doesn't ​have ​to ​be ​a ​big ​secret. ​And ​at ​first ​they're ​gonna ​think ​it's ​weird, ​and ​at ​first ​they're ​gonna ​think ​you ​need ​a ​student ​because ​you're ​just ​showing ​up ​at ​their ​door ​and ​it's ​the ​first ​time ​you ​showed ​up ​in ​their ​room ​all ​year. ​But ​they'll ​get ​used ​to ​it, ​and ​then ​it'll ​be ​like ​a ​drug ​for ​you. ​I'm ​serious. ​Like, ​you ​• ​• ​that ​one ​hour, ​or, ​you ​know, ​maybe ​it's ​30 ​minutes ​once ​a ​week, ​and ​you ​hit ​up ​half ​of ​the ​kids, ​or ​depending ​on ​how ​big ​your ​school ​is ​and ​how, ​you ​know, ​many ​classes ​you ​want ​to ​get ​to, ​you ​have ​to ​spread ​it ​out ​over ​multiple ​weeks. ​But ​the ​point ​is, ​is ​that ​it's ​a ​practice ​that ​you're ​starting ​and ​it's ​something ​that ​you're ​working ​on, ​you're ​prioritizing ​it, ​and ​it's ​just, ​oh, ​man, ​there's ​so ​many ​benefits. ​You ​know, ​what's ​going ​on ​in ​the ​classes. ​You ​have ​that ​vibe ​as ​far ​as, ​like, ​which ​kids ​are ​discipline ​challenges ​and ​how ​these ​certain ​teachers ​are ​handling ​it. ​Uh, ​the ​newer ​teachers, ​the ​more ​veteran ​teachers, ​• ​• ​um, ​• ​• ​• ​all ​of ​those ​things. ​But ​most ​importantly, ​quite ​honestly, ​you're ​going ​to ​all ​the ​places ​where ​the ​joy ​is ​happening ​and ​you're ​just ​interacting ​with ​them. ​And ​I ​just ​call ​it ​the ​weekly ​pop ​in. ​Um, ​and ​it's ​on ​my ​schedule. ​And ​so ​• ​• ​it's ​possible. ​And ​if ​you ​have ​to ​scale ​that ​down ​in ​duration ​and ​frequency, ​then ​that's ​fine, ​but ​just ​start. ​• ​• ​And ​then ​the ​last ​strategy ​is ​scheduled ​lunchtime ​with ​the ​kids. ​And ​so ​• ​• ​• ​I ​started ​doing ​this ​back ​in ​2014, ​• ​• ​where ​we ​have ​trimesters ​at ​our ​school. ​And ​so ​once ​a ​trimester ​lunch ​with ​Mr. ​Mincus, ​and ​it ​was ​the ​fifth ​graders, ​we ​divide ​them ​up ​into ​groups ​of ​about, ​um, ​five ​or ​six ​kids. ​• ​• ​And ​then ​once ​a ​trimester, ​let's ​say ​there's ​30 ​kids ​in ​the ​class, ​• ​• ​there ​would ​be ​five ​days ​then ​where ​I ​would ​have ​lunch ​to ​five ​or ​six ​days ​to ​be ​able ​to ​get ​all ​those ​groups, ​the ​five ​or ​six ​groups. ​• ​• ​And, ​um, ​• ​then ​just ​ask ​them ​Questions, ​you ​know, ​and ​some ​of ​them ​can ​be ​silly, ​like, ​what's ​your ​favorite, ​um, ​video ​game? ​Or, ​you ​know, ​but ​I ​would ​get ​into ​like, ​you ​know, ​what ​are ​some ​ideas ​for ​improving ​the ​school? ​Or ​what ​questions ​do ​you ​have ​about ​your ​big, ​um, ​end ​of ​the ​year ​trip ​that's ​coming ​up? ​Or ​for ​fifth ​grade, ​what ​do ​you ​have? ​What ​questions ​do ​you ​have ​about ​middle ​school? ​And ​that ​was ​how ​it ​started ​in ​2014. ​We ​were ​trying ​to ​solve ​a ​retention ​crisis ​of ​losing ​fifth ​graders ​to ​sixth ​grade, ​but ​we ​solved ​that ​within ​a ​year ​or ​two. ​And ​then ​I ​just ​kept ​doing ​it ​for ​ten ​years ​after ​that. ​• ​Um, ​and ​so ​my ​point ​is, ​is ​that ​if ​it's ​on ​your ​schedule ​even ​once ​a ​week ​and ​it's ​a ​group ​of ​kids, ​• ​• ​um, ​it's ​going ​to ​make ​a ​big ​difference ​for ​you ​and ​for ​them. ​• ​• ​And ​so ​again, ​the, ​uh, ​oh, ​and ​then ​one ​other ​thing ​would ​be ​just ​like ​weekly ​story ​time. ​So ​if ​you ​just ​had ​one ​thing ​that ​you ​added ​to ​your ​calendar ​and ​it ​was ​15 ​minutes ​in ​your ​entire ​week, ​and ​you ​went ​and ​you ​read ​a ​story ​or ​two ​to ​the ​little ​kids, ​• ​• ​um, ​whatever ​that ​definition ​of ​little ​kids ​is ​to, ​in ​your ​school, ​• ​• ​um, ​• ​• ​• ​• ​it ​would ​make ​a ​big ​difference ​• ​• ​for ​you ​as ​far. ​And ​for ​them, ​you ​know, ​that's ​the ​thing. ​It ​makes ​a ​difference ​for ​you, ​it ​makes ​a ​difference ​for ​them. ​• ​• ​And ​so ​what ​are ​our ​big ​takeaways? ​We ​want ​to ​be ​strategic. ​• ​• ​• ​• ​We ​want ​to ​make ​it ​known ​to ​the ​teachers ​that, ​to ​let ​us ​know ​when ​they're ​• ​doing ​their ​skits ​or ​their ​presentations ​or ​they're ​dissecting ​or, ​you ​know, ​they're ​doing ​something ​fun ​in ​this ​club, ​they're ​having ​a ​debate, ​whatever. ​We're ​going ​to ​claim ​some ​white ​space. ​• ​• ​We're ​going ​to ​• ​• ​consider ​doing ​that ​weekly. ​Pop ​in ​in ​some ​form ​or ​fashion. ​Some. ​You, ​you ​make ​it ​your ​own. ​I ​described ​what ​it ​looks ​like ​for ​me, ​• ​• ​um, ​scheduled ​lunchtime ​with ​kids, ​you ​know, ​once ​a ​week ​or ​twice ​a ​month ​even, ​and, ​or ​a ​weekly ​story ​time. ​And ​here's ​the ​thing. ​Your ​call ​to ​action ​is ​to ​just ​claim ​some ​white ​space ​• ​• ​• ​• ​in ​the ​next ​week, ​• ​• ​15 ​minutes ​twice. ​So ​for ​30 ​minutes, ​and ​if ​you ​do ​the ​math ​on ​what ​30 ​minutes ​is ​as ​a ​percentage ​of ​your ​work ​hours ​of ​the ​week, ​it's ​going ​to ​be ​an ​incredibly ​small ​percentage. ​• ​• ​But ​if ​you, ​twice ​a ​week ​for ​15 ​minutes ​are, ​uh, ​leaving ​your ​office ​and ​going ​to ​the ​joy ​on ​your ​campus, ​• ​you, ​uh, ​• ​• ​• ​are ​going ​to ​have ​a ​disproportionate ​positive ​• ​• ​• ​mental ​health ​and ​physical ​• ​• ​• ​aspect ​and ​benefit ​from ​doing ​that. ​And ​so ​the ​call ​to ​action ​is ​in ​the ​next ​week, ​claim ​some ​white ​space. ​• ​• ​15 ​minutes ​twice ​a ​week ​or ​30 ​minutes ​once ​a ​week, ​where ​you're ​going ​to ​be ​going ​to ​the ​joy. ​And ​remember, ​the ​Joy ​• ​• ​• ​is ​on ​your ​campus. ​It's ​just ​not ​in ​your ​office. ​• ​• Mark Menckeus: Six ways to protect your school from a lawsuit And ​so ​I ​want ​to ​wrap ​it ​up ​by ​giving ​you ​another ​free ​gift. ​And ​this ​is ​called ​six ​ways ​to ​protect ​your ​school ​from ​a ​lawsuit. ​And ​we ​know ​that ​we ​want ​to ​keep ​our ​staff ​and ​students ​safe, ​and ​that's ​our ​priority. ​We ​want ​to ​keep ​our ​school ​out ​of ​court ​• ​because ​litigation ​is ​expensive ​and ​time ​consuming ​and ​stressful. ​And ​so ​this ​is ​a ​common ​sense ​guide ​that ​can ​help ​you ​be ​more ​intentional ​and ​proactive ​when ​it ​comes ​to ​protecting ​your ​school. ​So ​if ​you ​go ​to ​the ​privatescchooler.comlawsuit, ​you ​can ​grab ​the ​top ​six ​ways ​to ​protect ​your ​school ​from ​a ​lawsuit ​for ​free. ​Just ​to ​say ​thank ​you ​for ​listening ​to ​the ​podcast. ​• ​• ​And ​then, ​uh, ​one ​last ​question. ​What's ​your ​biggest ​problem ​at ​school ​right ​now? ​• ​• ​• ​• ​I ​would ​love ​to ​work ​with ​you ​one ​on ​one ​and ​help ​you ​solve ​that ​problem. ​And ​I'd ​love ​to ​hear ​more ​about ​that ​problem. ​And ​I ​have ​a ​couple ​coaching ​spots ​open ​right ​now, ​so ​• ​• ​go ​over ​to ​the ​privatescguer.com ​coaching ​• ​and ​learn ​a ​little ​more ​and ​read ​some ​testimonials. ​And ​again, ​I'd ​love ​to ​work ​with ​you ​one ​on ​one. ​And ​I ​would ​really ​appreciate ​it ​if ​you ​would ​share ​the ​podcast, ​the ​link ​to ​the ​podcast ​with ​another ​leader, ​school ​leader ​in ​your ​life ​and ​another, ​perhaps ​a ​rising ​leader ​at ​your ​school ​so ​that ​we ​can ​continue ​to ​spread ​this ​message ​and ​to ​help ​private ​school ​leaders ​• ​• ​grow. ​And ​remember, ​it's ​all ​about ​trying ​to ​go ​from ​where ​we ​are ​to ​having ​that ​long ​and ​happy ​and ​• ​• ​fulfilling, ​uh, ​• ​• ​• ​career ​as ​a ​private ​school ​leader. ​So ​I've ​been ​your ​host, ​Mark ​Menckeus. ​I ​just ​want ​to ​say ​I ​appreciate ​you ​and ​all ​the ​amazing ​work ​that ​you ​do ​at ​your ​school. ​Thank ​you ​so ​much ​for ​taking ​some ​time ​to ​join ​me ​here ​today. ​And ​I'll ​see ​you ​next ​time ​right ​here ​on ​the ​Private ​School ​Leader ​podcast. ​Ah. ​• ​• ​And ​until ​then, ​always ​remember ​to ​serve ​first, ​lead ​second, ​and ​make ​a ​difference.

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