Episode 119: Tokenization in the Netherlands: Who Leads and What’s Next?

In this episode of the 2Tokens podcast, host Erich Schnoeckel (2Tokens) is joined at Osborne Clarke in Amsterdam by Johannes de Jong (Osborne Clarke) and Max Costet (Fireblocks) for an in-depth conversation on the future of tokenization in the Netherlands and Europe.Building on earlier work with AFME on the future of the European token economy, the discussion zooms in on the Dutch perspective: where the market stands today, what is already technically possible, and what is still holding large-scale adoption back. Johannes shares his regulatory and legal insights from years of working with crypto assets, MiCAR licensing, and financial regulators, while Max explains how institutional-grade digital asset infrastructure has matured and why technology is no longer the main bottleneck.Together, they reflect on the October 8th roundtable at De Nederlandsche Bank with regulators, ministries, law firms, and technology providers. Key themes include collaboration between public and private stakeholders, the role of regulators stepping “out of the ivory tower,” and the need for concrete use cases to move from discussion to action, such as issuing Dutch government bonds on a blockchain.The episode also explores:- Why the Netherlands has strong fundamentals to lead in tokenization- Lessons from countries like Luxembourg- Public vs. permissioned blockchains- Stablecoins, government bonds, and secondary markets- Legal hurdles, property law, and risk management- What the next concrete steps should be to make tokenization work at scaleParticipants:Erich Schnoeckel: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erichschnoeckel/Johannes de Jong: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johannes-de-jong-2926b211/Max Costet: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maximiliencostet/More info on Osborne Clarke: https://www.osborneclarke.com/nl/locations/nederland?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=20380437317&gbraid=0AAAAADGG9vBvOi9ZVSQsDqB02d2BouEKr&gclid=CjwKCAiAjc7KBhBvEiwAE2BDOYE1Gd36uiLRTLgdpfBYMhDbecDFmfY0jN8NWtRp0h7yHaRaKDbcMxoC72gQAvD_BwEFireblocks: https://www.fireblocks.com/Send us Fan MailSupport the showDo you want to join one of the use cases? Contact us via [email protected]  Read more on our blog 👉 https://www.2tokens.org/news Follow us on LinkedIn 👉 https://www.linkedin.com/company/2tokensTwitter 👉 https://twitter.com/2tokens_org?s=20 Website 👉 https://www.2tokens.org/