Episode 12: Dustin Dozier - Pastors Are Losing the Battle for Attendance (Here's Why) | Heart To Mission

Dustin Dover didn't grow up in church. He was a skater punk in Acworth, Georgia, angry and picking fights, until a group of kids offered him a seat at lunch his freshman year and a lock in with free pizza turned into the gospel landing for the first time. Two years later his parents' marriage fell apart and his dad ended up in jail, and it was that same community that held him together. Now he's a teaching pastor at Upstate Church, leads connections across all ten campuses, and just wrote The Connected Church. He and Josh talk about why people will pay travel ball fees and bring their own chair for community but skip the one place built for it, the diagnostic questions every pastor should be asking, and where to start when you're wearing all the hats and don't know what's broken.