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EPISODE · Jan 29, 2026 · 35 MIN

Episode 12: Rev Jonathan Macy & Rev Phil Bryson - Preaching as a Living Conversation shaped by Trust, Courage and Faith

from Preaching Well · host Rt Rev Saju Varghese Muthalaly, Diocese of Leicester

What happens when the preachers who break open the gospel are the ones the world might overlook?In this episode of Preaching Well, two vicars - Jonathan Macy, who preaches with a stammer, and Phil Bryson, who lives and preaches with a visual impairment—show us how the good news runs through weakness, courage, and raw honesty.Jonathan speaks slowly because he must. Phil preaches without seeing a face in the room.And yet their sermons land with power. Their vulnerability opens doors. Their congregations come alive.Together, they talk about calling, resilience, joy, inclusion, and the surprising gifts released when the pulpit becomes a place for every voice and every body part—especially the ones the apostle Paul calls 'weaker,' 'different,' or 'indispensable'.It’s earthy. It’s brave. It’s full of hope.

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