Episode 13: Michael White/Philip Tessier

**PLEASE DON’T BE CONFUSED: OUR FIRST 94 EPISODES ORIGINALLY AIRED ON OUR FORMER HOST NETWORK, AND STILL FEATURE THEIR STATION ID’S AND ADS. BUT ANDREW TALKS TO CHEFS HAS BEEN AN INDEPENDENT PODCAST SINCE 2019, AND WE’VE  NOW AIRED SEVERAL HUNDRED EPISODES, AND COUNTING! SO … THE ONLY CURRENT, COMPLETE, AND OFFICIAL SITE FOR THE PODCAST IS ANDREWTALKSTOCHEFS.COM (PLEASE VISIT AND BOOKMARK), WHERE YOU CAN FIND ALL EPISODES, ANDREW’S MUSINGS, NEWS ABOUT PERSONAL AND VIRTUAL APPEARANCES, AND RELATED INFORMATION. THANKS!**Our first twofer! Chef Michael White, the force behind Marea, Ai Fiori, Osteria Morini, and other modern classics, tells us how he morphed from an offensive tackle from Beloit, Wisconsin, into one of the best practitioners of Italian cuisine in the world. And Philip Tessier, a young veteran of the Thomas Keller Restaurant Group who won a long-coveted silver medal for the United States at the international Bocuse d'Or competition, takes us inside his triumph and talks about his beautiful new book Chasing Bocuse, which tells the story of the competition and the USA's decades-long road to the podium. Andrew coauthored Michael's cookbook Classico e Moderno and wrote his own book about the Bocuse d'Or, Knives at Dawn, so brings his own point of view to both of these interviews. THINGS YOU SHOULD KNOW:Andrew is a writer by trade. If you'd like to support him, there's no better way than by purchasing his most recent book, The Dish: The Lives and Labor Behind One Plate of Food (October 2023), about all the key people (in the restaurant, on farms, in delivery trucks, etc.) whose stories and work come together in a single restaurant dish.We'd love if you followed us on Instagram. Please also follow Andrew's real-time journal of the travel, research, writing, and production of/for his next book The Opening (working title), which will track four restaurants in different parts of the U.S. from inception to launch.For Andrew's writing, dining, and personal adventures, follow along at his personal feed.Thank you for listening—please don't hesitate to reach out with any feedback and/or suggestions!