EPISODE · Sep 22, 2025 · 1H 6M
Episode 13: The Elephant in the Room: RBT Burnout with Nick Klinkefus
from Rad N Bad Podcast · host Sean Yocum and Michael Carrero from Hickory Learning Group
In this bold and edgy episode, your hosts Sean Yocum and Mike Carrero get into the most talked about but least solved problem in the field: RBT burnout. Joined by special guest Nick Klinkefus, a tech-savvy leader specializing in Organizational Behavior Management (OBM), they expose the hard truths behind the industry's staffing crisis.Are RBTs just billable machines? Is the high turnover rate a direct result of prioritizing profit over people? They dissect a system that has fundamentally distorted the RBT role, reducing it to a disposable resource and a mere means to an end. We challenge the notion of "client-first culture" and dive into the lack of professional development, a rigid certification system, and the devastating consequences of an undervalued workforce.This isn't a surface-level discussion; it's a deep dive into the business of behavior analysis, the profitability of a broken model, and the uncomfortable realities that are holding our field back. If you've ever felt like your voice isn't being heard or that you're just a number, this episode is for you. We're cutting through the noise and asking the questions everyone else is too afraid to ask.Find Nick on Linkedin at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicklinkefus/Check out his business at: https://www.greatdayconsults.com/
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In this bold and edgy episode, your hosts Sean Yocum and Mike Carrero get into the most talked about but least solved problem in the field: RBT burnout. Joined by special guest Nick Klinkefus, a tech-savvy leader specializing in Organizational Behavior Management (OBM), they expose the hard truths behind the industry's staffing crisis.Are RBTs just billable machines? Is the high turnover rate a direct result of prioritizing profit over people? They dissect a system that has fundamentally distorted the RBT role, reducing it to a disposable resource and a mere means to an end. We challenge the notion of "client-first culture" and dive into the lack of professional development, a rigid certification system, and the devastating consequences of an undervalued workforce.This isn't a surface-level discussion; it's a deep dive into the business of behavior analysis, the profitability of a broken model, and the uncomfortable realities that are holding our field back. If you've ever felt like your voice isn't being heard or that you're just a number, this episode is for you. We're cutting through the noise and asking the questions everyone else is too afraid to ask.Find Nick on Linkedin at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicklinkefus/Check out his business at: https://www.greatdayconsults.com/
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