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EPISODE · May 20, 2026 · 50 MIN

Episode 1302: Brooke Ligertwood, the Two Kinds of Churches Actually Growing & What Drake Says About the State of Music

from The RELEVANT Podcast · host RELEVANT Magazine

This week, we talk to Brooke Ligertwood about her new album ‘Eat,’ which is unlike anything she's put out before. In RELEVANT Buzz, we break down new data that highlights where the Church has actually been growing over the last decade — and where it hasn’t. We also tell the story of the e.l.f. Cosmetics co-founder who gave away his fortune and is becoming a priest. Plus we have a look at the new Moses limited series on Prime Video starring Sir Ben Kingsley. (It’s impressive.)In Slices, Jesse has some thoughts about kamikaze dolphins, and the cast of course opens the show with thoughts on the new Drake albums, which leads to a fascinating conversation about what’s been wrong with the music industry and our thoughts on where things are going. This week’s Question of the Week is based on the ‘Thief In the Night’ post we had this week: What's a movie or show you watched way too young that you now realize was completely inappropriate (and your parents probably had no idea)? Drop your answer in the comments on YouTube or reply on our Stories on social — we're reading our favorites on next week's episode.Highlights:00:00 — Intro / Drake drops three albums and burns down his Universal deal20:43 — RELEVANT Buzz: Elf Cosmetics founder becomes a Catholic priest24:11 — RELEVANT Buzz: The only churches actually growing (Pew data)34:02 — RELEVANT Buzz: Moses limited series on Prime Video37:43 — RELEVANT Recommends: Brooke Ligertwood, Eat45:00 — Slices: Kamikaze dolphins and the beluga whale that defected47:45 — Editorial Question of the Week50:55 — Outro

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