Episode 133: Interview with Kathleen Costello

“Flow state is not elusive. We can design for it.” 

The flow state is often known as being “in the zone”, and this phenomenon can actually be created if we dedicate thought and intention into our process. In this interview with clarinetist and artist Kathleen Costello, we focus on the idea of flow state, mental practice and visualization, and creating a business from passion projects. 

When diving into flow state research, Flow: The Psychology of Optimal Experience by Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi is a great foundational book where Kathleen started her own learning. Through this research, Kathleen found the 8 main components and indicators of the flow state, which can help us recognize when flow occurs as well as create an environment conducive to flow state.  

Listen through for more on Kathleen’s research on flow and to learn the 8 main components and indicators of the flow state in order to design your practice sessions and work for optimal focus and engagement.

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