Episode #14: Forgeries

- 01:29- "Joining Plastic, Glass, and Metal On the Recycle List: Fake Art" (NY Times paywall) - 01:35 - It's not about recycling - 01:50 - Commas trigger James - 02:15 - Pretentious words trigger James - 03:25 - Art world vs elites vs the masses - 03:36 - Language as a weapon? - 03:45 - Catherine sums article up in seconds, but they will talk about it for 20 minutes - 04:00 - Most of the fake art is not destroyed - 04:10 - The only recycling is that fake pieces keep showing up for sale and authentication - 04:15 - If everyone is upset about forgeries, just destroy them! - 04:30 - Catalogues of fakes as teaching tools - 04:45 - If a piece has merits, does the author really matter? - 04:56 - "Tyranny of authorship" - 05:40 - Celebrate the work, not the author - 06:28 - Forged pieces are stamped, retained, and potentially resurface in art world - 07:58 - Deconstructing authentication - 08:54 - The case of the "thrift store Pollack" - 09:44 - It's a sleazy market - 10:00 - Once a forgery, always a forgery? - 10:55 - Bad stamp - 11:30 - James holds back re: Damien Hirst - 12:23 - Digression about makers' marks - 13:54 - The found piece will not be destroyed - 14:20 - Catherine has a knack! - 15:12 - Unanswered questions - 15:55 - Who authenticates the authenticator? - 17:00 - James proposes a "forgery registry", Catherine suggests putting a notch in it! - 19:12 - James approves NY Times web design - 20:10 - What bikinis? - 21:50 - Both Chagall's in article are forgeries - 23:05 - Just didn't get any vibes - 23:45 - Catherine proposes recycling ideas - 25:00 - Authenticator's opposing specialties: Egon Schiele vs Grandma Moses - 26:17 - Deconstructing the term "Folk Art" - 27:00 - The genius of Grandma Moses - 28:27 - Villeroy & Boch "Naif" pattern - 29:00 - The term Folk Art is purely marketing - 30:00 - Again, the work must stand on its own - 30:12 - Training does not beget great work - 31:50 - "Craft" is legit - 32:25 - Catherine "paints" with fibers - 32:43 - Affirmation is great - 33:45 - Was this an angry podcast? - 34:05 - Next week, Louise Nevelson and a discussion of "recycling" in art