Episode 15: Dr. Kathy Hirsh-Pasek

In this episode of the ACM podcast, Arthur is joined by Dr. Kathy Hirsh-Pasek, New York Times–bestselling author, Professor of Psychology at Temple University, Senior Fellow at the Brookings Institution, and one of the nation’s leading voices on how children learn and develop through play. Arthur and Kathy discuss why play is not separate from learning but fundamental to it, and how active, playful experiences support children’s language, social-emotional growth, and long-term success. Their conversation explores playful learning in everyday spaces, the pressures facing today’s families, and the growing influence of technology and AI on early childhood—along with why human connection remains essential. Many of the ideas Kathy shares about easing the rush of modern parenting and helping children thrive through play are explored more deeply in her award-winning book, Einstein Never Used Flashcards, which returns in an updated edition on January 20. Join Arthur and Kathy for a thoughtful, hopeful conversation about learning, parenting, and creating environments where children can flourish.