Episode #162 – ‘Buffy the Vampire Slayer’ – 3×11, 3×12 – Order of the Slayer

Join us as we discuss Buffy the Vampire Slayer season 3, episode 11, “Gingerbread” and episode 12 "Helpless."Superfans: SelinaNewbies: Danielle and Brittany  Fun facts:Danielle is back and saved two dogs because she is a real life superhero! Brittany is going to see Shonda Rhimes give a talk and get inspired. Selina was inspired by a marathon and went on a run! Buffy the Vampire Slayer season 3, episode 11, “Gingerbread”:-"Gingerbread" was not great, but we made it through-Joyce had something to do, but it still was still awful-Do these brainwashing scenarios reveal something about Joyce's true nature?-The Joyce and Giles awkwardness is one of the best strands of continuity-We meet Willow's very clinical mother in this episode-Xander and Willow's families make Joyce look a bit bitter-MOO shut it down!-First rule of Vampire Club: Don't talk about Vampire Club-Could we have an army of Hellmouth guards?-Harry Potter and Buffy-- too close for comfort-The reveal was quite clever with the nameless children-But... we still don't know some of the finer elements-Burn the children! Or not!-Amy is a rat. We'll deal with that later-Favorite Scenes-Favorite Lines Buffy the Vampire Slayer season 3, episode 12, “Helpless”:-ARIANA HAS A HAMILTON SYNOPSIS-This episode is truly a testament to Giles' character-Once things get explained, however, it's not great-We're stuck in a very gray area with Giles-Tradition is tradition, until it goes too far-Should we distrust The Watchers Council?-Buffy is choosing to focus on character development than vampire of the week and the show is more interesting for it-We're in season 3 and the characters still have room to grow-Giles' character switch mid-season is a refreshing storyline-Buffy has a great track record of remembering its history-A father's love for the child - sob-Oz and Xander- how do we feel about their friendship?-Buffy may understand what Giles did, but the seed is sown-Is this test even necessary? There is an issue of consent in the way it is set up-The Watched Council is on a power trip-And Brittany brings it back to The Hunger Games-The overalls of sadness are back for the final battle-The battle was dark and joyless- "no punning"-Cordelia is the human hero this show does not deserve, so great-Angel and Buffy have some kind of moment or something- at least they are aware of it-"Sometimes the best we can do is start over." - Peggy Carter-Favorite Scenes-Favorite Lines Listener Feedback-Hannah appreciated Caitlin's commentary. Well, we appreciate you, Hannah!-Tanesha's cat loves Buffy!-Faith's motel room is rent-free?-Bunny Summers!-Will Mitch like Angel?-The great season 4 debate continues Contact us!Email: [email protected]: @Re_WatchableTumblr: ReWatchablePodcast.Tumblr.comOr in the comments below.Please rate and review us on iTunes! If there are any issues downloading this episode from iTunes, please refer to this guide.