Episode 17 - Michael Heinrich on Decentralized AI, Verifiable Compute & DATs

On this episode of Tech It or Leave It, Sebastien Marque, VP of Strategy at Luna PR, sits down with Michael Heinrich, Co-Founder & CEO of 0G Labs and Executive Chairman of Zero Stack. Michael shares his journey from enterprise tech and strategy roles at SAP, Microsoft, Bain & Company, and Bridgewater Associates to building 0G Labs - a decentralized infrastructure designed to make AI a public good. The conversation explores why AI must be verifiable and incentive-aligned as it becomes embedded in mission-critical systems, how blockchain enables decentralized AI through provenance and slashing conditions, and the real infrastructure challenges behind scaling decentralized compute. They also dive into 0G’s breakthrough in training the first fully decentralized 107B-parameter AI model, the roadmap following the Aristotle mainnet, and the growing role of Digital Asset Treasuries (DATs) as an institutional vehicle for token exposure - drawing parallels to treasury-led models popularized by firms like MicroStrategy. This episode is for builders, investors, and operators focused on decentralized AI, Web3 infrastructure, and institutional crypto adoption. Follow us on our socials: TikTok: @techitorleaveitpodcast Instagram: @techitorleaveitpodcast X: @TIOLIpodcast SoundCloud: Tech It Or Leave It