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Episode 18:– Payton McNabb : The Spike Heard around the world: Her Traumatic Fight for Women Only in Women’s Sports &  Ilya Shapiro’s Brutal Takedown of DEI as One of the Worst Disasters to Hit Society episode artwork

EPISODE · Mar 18, 2026 · 49 MIN

Episode 18:– Payton McNabb : The Spike Heard around the world: Her Traumatic Fight for Women Only in Women’s Sports &  Ilya Shapiro’s Brutal Takedown of DEI as One of the Worst Disasters to Hit Society

from No BS with Brad Smith · host Brad Smith /Curiouscast

A spiked volleyball from a trans female athlete (biological male) ended Payton McNabb’s high-school career in seconds — concussion, post-concussive trauma, and a viral moment that forced the White House to sign the bill protecting “women only in women’s sports.” Payton breaks her silence. Then Canadian-American lawyer Ilya Shapiro — himself a victim of the DEI machine — cuts straight through the bullshit: DEI is one of the worst things to ever happen to our society, bred in universities, curated in corporations, and rotting merit, logic, and fairness from the inside out. No safe spaces, no apologies — just brutal honesty.

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Episode 18:– Payton McNabb : The Spike Heard around the world: Her Traumatic Fight for Women Only in Women’s Sports &  Ilya Shapiro’s Brutal Takedown of DEI as One of the Worst Disasters to Hit Society

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