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EPISODE · Oct 15, 2018 · 29 MIN

Episode 2

from TRUTH 2 POWER · host Tyris McKnight

On this episode we touch on the phenomenon of “Rape Culture” I was joined by Kianna whom has a Masters in Sociology and works in Law Enforcement. Enjoy! I apologize for the bad connection as well.

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Yeah, I got you back. Okay. So, yeah, the back of the message, let me start over. First of all, welcome listeners to the second episode of Truth of Power.

We talked about rape coaching today. I got piano and I would like to introduce yourself. I'm piano. I have imagined working law enforcement in the peer to talk of tires.

All right. So, I'll give you a definition of rape. I have a sexual assault, usually involved in sexual intercourse for all the forms of sexual penetration carried out against the person, not a person's consent. Most acts may be carried out by physical cause, or urges of abuse of authority, or against a person who is incapable of giving value consent.

Now, the term rape culture is about sociological, cause of personality, which rape is pervasive, and normalizing duties and societies and attitudes about gender and sexuality. Some of the commonly known acts of rape culture are victim blaming, sexual objectification, trivializing rape, and denial of widespread rape. Like, yeah, how do you feel about that term, rape culture? Rape culture is real, I think, in existence, in society.

And all the examples hold true. Like victim blaming and trivializing rape for people think that it's not really rape, or it's not a good deal, or it's not a good deal, or it's not a harm to people that it happens to. So yeah, I totally agree with that term. OK.

Now, when you say that people think that it doesn't affect the people that it happens to believe me about it, like, could you give me an example? Yeah, so when people get raped, they often, they have internal, like, pain, there's outward pain. And then the society often thinks are many people, like, when things happen to someone like that, they think it's not a good deal. You can get over that.

Like, it's not something that's going to affect you down the line. Because, you know, it was just sex. Or they don't see it as something more than just sex. They don't see it as, like, it came to the woman's perspective on not only men, but life, and also sex.

So like, it's just, it's a bad thing altogether. You know what I mean? When someone looks at something that's being done to someone else and they see it as minimal, then it also adds to the way that you feel about what happened to you and that nobody cares, and also is a compound of all the feelings that you have. OK.

OK. Then I get there. And as a man, I try my best to be careful with thinking like that. You know, because I don't think as a man, I think that when I go out, I don't have to worry about somebody jumping me on grabbing my bird or you know what I'm saying?

I'm objectifying me sexually. Well, probably not grabbing my butt. I don't know women object about me sexually, but you know. So when you're out, I don't think that you have to worry about?

Yeah, definitely. Like, men feel like they can do what they want when they want. And like a sexual objectification of women, like that's one of the things where they see women as like mere sex objects and that they can do what they want. Like, there's been times I've gone out and I might have gone a crop down.

And a guy has like rubbed my back or my stomach or something. And I'm like, what are you doing? And they feel like it's OK, like, oh, you're showing it. I'm like, so therefore you can touch me.

Like, I don't understand how you feel those correlates, because I'm showing my stomach. That means you're allowed to touch my stomach. But in their mind, they feel like they can do what they want. I mean, I showed my stomach.

So then therefore it was fair game. Or if somebody grabs my butt, like, well, I'm walking by, because they thought it looked nice. They feel like those things are OK. And that is things that women have to deal with on a regular basis, because somebody might don't have to be in a club.

You don't have to be in a specific area for men to decide, like, oh, you look nice, or you look good. And I want to touch it, or I want to say something about it that's definitely an everyday occurrence. They're allowed to do that. So when you go out, like, one type of place, it's like, do you experience these things?

Like, clothes? Or is it just like your everyday, like, in markets? As far as touching, it's usually in a crowded area, because a lot of times these guys are cowards. So it's not like they're blatantly just going to grab you or touch you.

They do things behind other people. And then you have to wonder, like, which version did touch me? Or who did that? Because they don't blatantly go like, oh, you know what I mean?

But words and faces, things like that, like, noises, any of those things, those can happen anywhere. Like, you can be in a grocery store and somebody has something to say. Or you can just be walking through a parking lot, somebody makes some kind of noise. So any of this doesn't just happen in one specific location.

It's not designated to an area. It's generally just men. Like, no matter where they are, if they decide it's, hey, that's hot, I want to say something, do something, whatever. That's what they do.

OK. So I have a question. Like, as far as like, your friends, do your friends, do their experience, that or your family members, do they express the same thing? Or do they all have different experiences?

Or most of them are simply like, I feel like a, a lot of women have the same. As far as my sisters, I know that they, I've been experience these things. Like, I've literally gotten right with guys, because he, we were in a club on a balcony, and he felt like he could continue to touch my little sister. And I acted several times, not to touch her.

And he still kept doing it. So then we all got into it. Because he felt like he could do that, because he wanted to. So yeah, I have these things first day.

Like, not just me, experience it, but like, family members, friends. So it's just, it's something that occur without women. I don't know the severity of every woman, but I know that those things have happened to me and my sisters and friends. And then it's to the point where you didn't have the division, though, and when you do, you're a bitch, or you're emotional, and you can't control your emotions, or somebody thinks that you're irrational, because they've done something that offended you, and you react.

OK. Yeah, I get that. I feel like that could be something that's like, very hard to deal with. Like, somebody always, you know, objectifying you, making this notion, like it's an invitation because you look good, it's an invitation to touch on.

So on the flip side of that, do you still like, women objectify men's sexual, will they say? There's definitely not going to say no, because there's definitely women that do. You know, I see women grab guys as in clubs, or like rub on their junk, you know, things like that. So I'm going to definitely say yes, because you know, all women are created equal, all men are created equal.

Every man does this, every woman. But there's definitely a nice portion. Or these like in the areas that I've been. There's a decent amount of guys that do or say what they want, because they feel like they can't.

So I'm not going to see women grab on guys, or just look at these guys and say, what? And it's definitely more prominent now that, you know, they change perspectives on a lot of things, and they're trying to repurpose a lot of words, and to things like that. So I definitely say yes, probably more prominent now than it was years ago. Like, it's definitely more prominent now than it was.

So if you have to like come up with like a, I mean, I just be in a law enforcement, like, and just having a message in socialology, if you had to come up with a solution to rape culture, what would it be? Or any possible solution? As far as a solution, that would take, like with racism, that would take more conversation. And people understanding and recognizing things for what they are and then learning about them.

Because if you don't see rape as rape, or you don't see rape as something that's real or important, then you're not going to be able to change the culture. You're going to perpetuate through everybody's thoughts. Like, if I continue to say this to my son, oh, you can go out there and do this, that, and it's very, like, oftentimes you'll have to double-name it for female females, especially like parents that have us on in a dar, a dar, can't do things that they'll allow the son to do. So if that continues, then the whole rape culture dynamic is going to continue.

It's not gonna, I think it's, it's starting at home with that perspective. And also, just people learning about it and recognizing it as something that's real. And that can hurt you. I wrote that too, because it's such a caveman mentality, you know, like, just to walk up to somebody and, you know, kind of like, I guess like, knock them over the hands and they're like, oh, you mind, you know what I'm saying?

Or just to try to, you know, grab somebody's blood and they take your permission to. But I think the most women, this is just me, this is just my biases. I think most women should, when they leave the house, they should be, they should leave the house with a man that's willing to, you know what I'm saying, either that form a kill phone, or there's some way they should feel protected. I know that, I know that's, that's gonna light up another male, of somebody of a different sex.

But the thing is, you don't wanna be in a vulnerable position, you know? You know what I mean? I hear what you're trying to say, but I totally don't agree, because at the end of the day, I'm human, just like a man of the human, and I shouldn't have to have protection to live my everyday life. Men don't have to have protection to live their everyday life.

So why should I have to have protection to live mine? It's like, they don't go out and grab a dude, a junk or it has, like, why is it different about me? I'm, we're supposed to be equal. And yet I should have to have another, a man come with me everywhere I go, so that I don't have to worry about some asshole trying to objectify me, regardless of what I have on.

I don't think that's a fair thing. I can get that like, you just wanna be comfortable on your own, you know what we should need there. But you know, the thing is like, as a woman, do you have a fair phone to put on? Even though you've worked on a lot of people, do you have a fair phone to put on?

What you have by yourself? Or you just wanna go out by yourself every time? That's a, I'm probably not the best woman to act that dude, because I'm pretty sure that I have a different mentality than most, but I usually don't feel vulnerable. Like I'll go out and do things by myself, not only because I don't feel vulnerable, because I'm comfortable in my own skin, and do things by myself, and I need somebody to be with me at all times, like I don't have to have a friend, I don't have to have a man, and I'm not gonna force anything, so that I can't have a man just so that I get feel protected.

So, I mean, there's classes out there for women for self-defense and things like that, to help them feel, I guess, safer, and their own ability to defend themselves. So other women might feel, might have a different opinion than I, like yeah, they do feel vulnerable going out, because a man might do this, learn to do that, but I don't feel that way. I'll go do things on my own with no problem. So let me talk about best, what type of class do you suggest, like on student range, you can still carry, oh wait, thanks.

If you feel like you need the defense of having a weapon, then yeah, I would suggest you take classes and send it to the other person and whatever weapon you decide to carry, but there's also good defense classes and what's different, like some defense classes that teach you how to use your hands, your feet, your body, just pressure points, things like that are taught. They have them at different gyms, different centers and stuff like that. So, I mean, like I said, if people feel like she's not capable of defending herself and that's not what she wants to do, as they go and try to take those classes, or look on YouTube, I'm pretty sure you can find things that can teach you how to do different moves and different things that might help you feel more secure by yourself on like free websites and stuff like that. So how do you feel about the MeToo movement?

Oh, it's just another, it's a way that I feel like they're trying to use that as a solution to the problem. Like, I understand that, yeah, I'm important too. And like, this happens to me, trying to think I think they just try to bring light, like I said, to the situation, so that it's not looked at something that's minimal and unimportant. They want you to recognize, hey, this is real, this is happening and I think that's the ultimate idea.

I don't have a problem with people coming forward that say that they have a problem with rape. I think my criticisms with the movement would be that it seems to only tell you like black males, you know, and I feel like according to LBR statistics, women are more likely to be raped by white males at a more proportionate rate. That's never the only thing about it, you know? But I do feel like rape is a very serious crime and I do feel like if somebody rapes somebody, they should burn the hell, they're just how I feel about that.

I feel like nobody should have the right to rape anybody. But I do feel like sometimes people collide about rape, you know, or they collide about what may have happened. How do you feel about that? Like...

And that is true, but specifically that the smaller number then what actually, like when people actually report, there's a smaller number of people coming in and reporting phone claims versus them reporting something that happens to them and you know, there's always two sides to every story. And the truth is always something in between. As far as women lying about it, it's gonna be who people feel have convinced them more. So like I said, specifically a woman's not gonna comment of death or so to all of the scrutiny that's gonna occur based on what she has to say, because she is gonna get what, the money or the potential?

Like nobody wants the attention of people based on the fact that I'm telling you I was raped. Like you already been objectified once and then you're gonna put yourself out there and get to be objectified all over again and to relive what happened to you. So it's not a thing that women are gonna do, just be like, oh well, I'm gonna lie about this today. You know what I mean?

Like, yeah, there has to be some people who've done it and that's the problem. Like, it's like the whole Boy Blue Pride Wolf scenario. So they had a few women that are, I don't even know this is just the family who wouldn't have done it, but they didn't have women that do it. And people only dwell on that aspect of it versus listening to somebody who comes forward and say, hey, I've been raped by this man, at this time, whatever, they go and they want you, then everything that they think and find every hole in their story to show that they're lying rather than believing them and trying to investigate it on the level of let's see what happens versus, let's see what they, you know what I mean?

When you go to do something, try to find all the lies, you're not gonna look at it the same. If you go to it, looking at it as something that potentially could have happened, you're gonna investigate it totally, totally different. So typically, why is it, why do you think it's so hard for women to come forward? Man, you just mentioned the worst route, man.

Like, what do you think that's the most women don't come forward with rape or is that true afraid of being judged? So it went, yeah, so it's not even just about a big judge. It's the right culture, it's like, just like it said, trivializing rape. So if nobody thinks it's a big deal, why should I come forward to say, hey, this guy, he raped me.

And I know that it happened to me, and I know that I've been dealing with it day in and day out in relationships and other relationships like, yeah, so becoming forward to then against the hate, and it's to rape me and everybody being like your liar, and now we're gonna bet everything you're saying, we're gonna go through your background and see who you slept with and we're gonna talk about all the people that you slept with and all the things that you've done to be perceived as this slept, this whore, and this lie, yeah, that's why you got raped. So then I have to live what happened to me over again, plus added problems of people thinking that I, something happened to me that should have happened to me versus them seeing me as a victim. They see me as the enabler. Like, what were you, when there's a whole shaming?

Like, what were you wearing? What did you say? How did you act? Like, why didn't you do this?

Why didn't you do that? Like, so why would I come forward? If nobody wants to be here where I have to say or believe me on the basis of, why should I? Who's gonna help me?

That's how a lot of females feel. And it didn't happen more often than not, so when people are like, oh, they all come and they lie. No, they usually internalize and they keep it to themselves. And then when they finally get the courage to come forward, then you still gonna get it all.

So it's at like, into a breaking point. And then they come in and they tell what happens to them. And so then they're gonna, they're either ready for what's gonna happen or they're not in a no-reachance. And then people will be like, oh, well, see, they're lying.

When it's just, I'm not ready to deal with all the things that go with me telling the truth about what happened to me. So they had this on, Katie's something, Wisconsin, which is where I was, on the football team. I don't know if you heard about it. His name is Quintana Cephas.

You don't hear about it? So let me just read some facts from the case. So he had a consent to reason with these two women. Then after they accused him of raping both of them because they said they were drunk.

However, Sabell showed that women willingly went to the department and also his body argues that the women were drunk at the time at the intercourse. The two women were seeing walking down there from the department without any difficulty. And also after days, they had sent messages with heart and kiss emojis saying that they were interested in saying him again. Just it's just like, I think, like you said, with the boy, the private prize, well, he's been spacing out the part of yours by the way.

But I think just like you said with the boy, the boy, the prize, that's why it's so hard for people to believe when they take so long to come forward because of cases like this. You know, when they got things like this happening. You know? I mean, at the end of the day, like women being drunk and they're like, oh, I didn't want to have sex with you.

And then now that's always a hard part of a lot of those situations and alcohol is, you know, some of them where people feel like, you can't, you don't have the right to say that you were raped just because you were drunk because I mean, you didn't stop him, you didn't say no or you enjoyed it. So that's where it makes the whole concept of accusing your rapist a bit hard. At the end of the day, nobody knows what happened inside the room other than those three people. And it's like one day, one morning quarterback, she's like, yeah, I can look at this, and this and this and this side, she's lying.

But then she could be telling the truth. So then they got people like, oh, well, maybe she's telling the truth. But why people start to say, oh, you're automatically lying, then that's when people are. Well, I feel like you're prepping up again.

Hello? Hello? Okay. piano, are you still with us?

Okay. Okay, here you go. Oh, there you go. Hello?

Lost again. There you go. Hello? Mike?

piano? piano? piano? I can kind of hear you.

Okay, here we go. Hello? Hello? I think I love you.

Love you, then. I'm right here. I'm right here. Hello?

Hello? Yeah, can you hear me? Now, I just want to talk about the term red culture for a moment. And how I became, how I feel like I became, because it's my first game.

Okay, hello? piano? Yeah, can you hear me? Yeah, can you hear me?

Yeah, what are we doing right now? But I just want to talk about the term red culture, how I feel like I became, when the first African people who were enslaved by the European, kind of now, this guy here in 1619. That's where the term red culture became in the United States. And where black people were contently raped by the colonizers.

Me and A were subjected to horrific treatment. White males from red black people still seem to get away with these type of actions. One of the most recent cases would have been bright turning. It was a student athlete at Stanford University in California in 2014.

On January 18, 2013, he sexually penetrated and intoxicated and unconscious, 22 year old woman. Turner was called by two Stanford international students who intervened because of the war, it appears to be unconscious. Turner fled to see as their approach, resulting in the two apprehending him and restraining him until the police came and brought him in the custody. Now the whole tragedy about that, you guys, is he was only sentenced to three years probation.

Anybody that rapes another woman or rapes anybody, period, certainly gets three years probation, that should get a more harsher sense in my opinion. People thought his term red culture around, or his term red around like he out and center, he came like his nine serums. How about this is a serious, serious thing that's going on. And we're living in some serious and dark times.

That people could violate somebody and get away with it. And I just really want to thank you, I know, for being with us today. Keanu, are you back with us? But I just want to thank you for being here today.

And thank you guys for listening. And just remember that the truth is powerful. Always.

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