Episode 2: Hike Your Own Hike

Today’s guest is someone close to home. Carl is my brother-in-law, and in this conversation, we cover more ground than I expected…both figuratively and literally.We talk about hiking the Appalachian Trail, raising daughters, working across generations, and why listening to other people’s stories is such a powerful act of empathy. There’s also a brief sidebarfeaturing an obscure movie quote from the early 1980s.What I love about this episode is that it unfolded like a trail itself—winding, surprising, full of small, memorable markers. Carl shares with the kind of honesty that makes you lean in, and somewhere along the way, we both landed on insights we didn’t know we were walking toward.This one feels like a reminder: that the people you think you already know might still have stories that change the way you see the world—and yourself.So, take some time and relax, or lace up your walking shoes, and settle in for this conversation with Carl.