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Jul 8, 2015 1 hr 8 min

Episode 2: JW vs. GG vs. MM

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In our second episode we discuss the two leading directors of the last year and their films. James Gunn (Guardians of the Galaxy) and Colin Trevorrow (Jurassic World) with their leading man Chris Pratt. We also touched on another huge success at the box office this year, Mad Max: Fury Road.

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Hi and welcome to another episode of opinioneering where us here geeks and nerds of all the I don't know What costs geeks and nerds though because it has like a stereotype Yeah, plus all of a sudden we become just like only comics only you know what I mean? Yeah, okay, okay? Okay, you could be like we could say something different every time like welcome to opinioneering the only podcast where you need a degree in a whole opinions With the geeks and nerds like if you had a cold or Jason's like where you can have an a whole opinion and no one can tell you anything I would be like welcome to opinioneering aka we like slaggy pancakes I love it. Okay, here we are.

Okay. And on that note Today we have a lot to talk about there's a lot of stuff that's happening in the news this week on a lot of sad news good news some okay news but the first thing we want to talk about is The record breaking film that came out and I love how you've been waiting for this. I do. I'm waiting like I love this movie So Jurassic World directed by Colin Trevorrow starting Chris Pratt and Opie's daughter Rice yeah Yeah, cool.

I guess it's cool. Well, you got that from like the last name Howard Bryce Ellis Opie then you would know Our two listeners we increased by a hundred percent listeners So yeah Jurassic World opened and it was a success I know we went and saw it the very first day came out We saw Matt and a showing and I want I want to get your guys's opinions first on the movie And and I know Colton you when we when we first did our first podcast You were talking about how you saw the trailer and you didn't just didn't click with you. Yeah, so how did I change to the movie? Like what did you think well?

That's not a trailer my first thing I thought was this doesn't look that exciting because I'm too old for this now The original I was younger and it was mind-blowing you're like oh crap now. I mean the first one came out I was like two years old a 92 right? 93 three years old. I didn't see it's all maybe I was five the second one came out I was like six I saw that theaters.

Yeah, so yeah pretty much like that second one. Oh, yeah I was was the best I had I still have the original toys the Jurassic Park compound with the gate really Yeah, I really do all the original toys. I have like all of them when you go back home. I don't want proof I'll take a picture up really good.

I used to get my bird and put him into the cage like he was a dinosaur And he was like eat the toys. What was the bird's name cinnamon? I mean not for Jurassic World though. No, no actually I came up with the dumbest Rex first actually his name was Simon you're now called in dominance Rex I'm just rax yeah, it's pretty dope.

Yeah, I thought I was too old. I mean I was like I just wasn't it didn't In clicking I saw a lot of things to try that was like I don't know like training was rapture looks kind of gay yeah And pterodactyl swooping people up off the ground like the ants look like I don't know it didn't look I don't know I don't know I'm really worried about it. They just looked it They just took it and just made it very Hollywood is what it looked like okay Just look so Hollywood like Michael Bay. Yeah, like if my yeah, I just looked like they injected with as many beaver tranquilizer as possible It was just like let's make this insane, but I saw it and your pin is fantastic.

It was a lot better I gave the trailer to I gave the movie at hand so I like that Yeah, it's better than when you see a trailer sucks or I mean the trailer's great And he said the movie like that didn't live with part. Oh, oh, no, but But um, no, that was a lot of movies are like that when you just like once you're watching it like Max Payne That's really look awesome. That's all the movie. I was like this mark Walberg.

Yeah, that's right It looks so it's it looked like the director wanted to be Frank Miller or Roger Yeah, and it freaked you out you saw these like weird looking demon things You know like whoa like this is almost gonna be kind of like some weird twist on like an alternate reality like of Mad Max I had to deal with like these Doug's mystery, but also these weird demon They even though it was cool. I think you find those just a drug and I got okay I'm gonna leave some people to see a theme in there in a drug and then nothing really happened. Yeah Yeah, yeah Yeah, it was like Max Payne me scarecrow. Yeah, yeah, so that was your pre-fots and then you went into it so before we go into the movie Jason's pretty thought for before the movie like when you first saw the trailer because I remember I was at work And I said it to you like and what were your first thoughts?

I would say probably similar to Colton. I wasn't totally like I think I was just wellmed you know not over not under just well and I just got underwhelmed overwhelmed. I was just well just well just well and I think it was like So in the moment of watching it, I was just kind of like feeling like now I'm convinced that forever at least in my book Chris Pratt is like America's sweetheart kind of a thing. He's like he's my sweetheart But at the time I saw the trailer and he's like I forgot that there's like the one scene He's like what kind of dinosaur did you make and all this stuff cook up?

Yeah? Yeah, and so I was like oh man Chris Pratt. Oh, yeah, I know that's like close your eyes. It's Chris It is I'm gonna look like I'm doing I just thought it was gonna be like the total cheese fest and don't get me wrong like Watching the movie.

I think one of the most charming things about it is that okay? It was a super fun ride had great time watching it And I love that it actually is cheesy and there's something about Chris Pratt and his like delivery and timing It's almost like he knows the lines out of the cheesiest and he leans into him like just enough to her Like okay, like he's kind of in on it, but he makes you believe it and just come along for the ride anyways Yeah, I think he was the saving grace of the trailer. I still went to go see it because of Chris Pratt Oh, yeah, like I feel like it was any person that role I would have felt the movie would have went to be something good But I definitely love Chris Pratt and that role. I think he went I want to go see it for Opie's honor I would take some stress.

It was just a quick. Well, yeah Was that like your first last I keep going like no I think I was about it I sent you a trailer and there was one part in the trailer that was like dude this shot oh The woman falls into the into the water. Yeah, the taro natural picks her up in the trailer and you see a drop And it's it's an underwater shot you see go you see go down and everybody has seen the part of the trailer with big Moses Was a source whatever the big guys is going to make it on yeah, I don't know the shark I know what it looks like anything big in the water I'm a little fierthing it like jump down to the Draws essentially because even call him Travaro there was an article there that he he talked to Steven Spielberg Sputes over was in the second producer on it and practically nowadays every producer is like here I'll just throw you money and put my name behind it, but he actually was like hey I had this idea where it's it's it's a great white and I'm kind of luding to like it's just And he's like oh actually like that idea. That's really cool.

Like go for it man. Like Steven was actually I'm wrong for Sam basis me and Steven so Yeah, yeah, we talk about his films. No, so he's like oh, it was like really good So that's how it went but when she did in the water I loved it because I'm like oh my gosh. She's all like that shot was the same in grace to me I had for some weird reason I do love Chris Brad.

It's kind of funny cuz everybody told you I didn't I the shot looks good I just didn't like a whole shark idea cuz like remember when I said really like yeah I see trailers I get a really realistic term with trailer But when I said the movie then my mind opens up I'm sorry I always look at trailers a realistic point of ease and I'm like really you're really feeding a great white shark Which is kind of counter-in-shroom because it's like I don't know it's counter-tubed this is a huge ass beast Yeah, and a little tiny shark. That's like meeting a little fish just a little Oh, it's feeding time. I just like like that's like a lot of eats I also speak to the fish me like well, because we've got some more great whites now because this guy needs to eat like What are you trying to say why not just hunt another shark? Feed it for sharks at one giant great white like I don't know that's maybe an Unnipicky asshole about it in the background.

They should have been like a news article like great. Why's it now? It's neat. Yeah, exactly like just hunchquack.

Where's the Jurassic world? Just the you get that guy for the original jobs on strikes in his boat hunting sharks on the other side of the movie It's movie world. You never know last year. You never know transformation So okay, but that was that was a shot that did for me when I first watched the trailer I was excited for the mere fact that they're coming up with another Jurassic Park movie and then when I heard Travaro Was at the helm I was I was very hesitant just because what's happened in the past couple years with him I've been with James Gullen in Guardians of Galaxy So I was very hesitant on this new time director and the only thing before that that he had really really done that that people know about was um Which I love that he brought along Nick Miller from Nick Miller.

What's his name? Jake? Jake Johnson. Is that his name?

No Google. Oh no cuz I'm thinking like Jack Johnson. Yeah, it's Jake something. But he's Really girl kidding so yeah, he brought him back.

I like that. I was really good too Yeah, cuz I would say like the only person who's natural comedic timing after watching that movie He almost rivals Chris Pratt even though they never had any scream time together. Well, like yeah I don't know if they had one spoken lying to one another But I think like he kind of just has this really natural like self-deprecating kind of humor where he just kind of laughed at him I did just jump to it. Yeah, just jump over.

Nice Yeah, they did really get together. Yeah, so when I heard controversy over Okay, just cuz you know James Gunn before that before Guardians of the Galaxy the only big Movie that he'd done that had a pretty big budget and people were actually gonna go see with Scooby-Doo part two And they gave him the reins of like you're gonna be the director the writer and the producer They gave him like so much rain and then I watched guardians and it didn't make my expectations You almost think maybe they gave him too much of a load. I think yeah Yeah, yeah, they gave him too much of a load and I watch the movie and I kind of come scared But then I watch safety not guaranteed and if you guys haven't seen safety not to taste like great little movie It's probably still an Netflix. Yeah, I try so Netflix it has Jake Johnson It also has Audrey Plaza who plays April like a in Parks and Rec It's just a really it's really good.

I'm not gonna go to details about that It's a really good movie, but it's a very character driven movie has no special effects has nothing It's just about you sky who they everything is crazy You can travel in time and these news reporters are like all it's let's expose him and make fun of him kind of a thing And we read peace about him so it was very character driven and I like that the pacing was good everything was really nice So I had a little bit more hope But then when I saw the trailer and the story of let's train these Raptors and then it kind of went I don't know if it was sour in my brain, but it was just like ahh It's not it's about respect and I was like bar spat. These are dinosaurs. Yeah, they don't care. That was my whole thing They don't care they don't care dinosaurs.

Yeah. Yeah, this is like you don't even know if that's something really look like Yeah, and you think we could train them? Make my time around. They go.

They kind of give you a different fossil record and stuff kind of kind of they can do the best they can The best they can yeah, so I was I was hesitant. I didn't give it a two when I give it a six I think it was a really six it wasn't bad, but it wasn't good and I didn't want even a five That's too neutral, but I was gonna lead towards the best. I think it was six. I walked out of the movie giving like five thousand and a half It was it was so good and I think he executed things very well.

Also, I think Pretty much proven which helped the movie be even better was the nostalgia. Yeah, that was their whole plan. Yeah, clearly Yeah, there are so many little homages to the first original movie You're attracted to the current audience of these kids never seeing the originals I'm sure like you know they come in and it's like they're my little kids Then you attract people who've been through the first ones by all this alga right and you got locked in through that Mm-hmm so I think that was definitely easily their biggest game I think I think that's where college of art did good is that he rode that nostalgia But he also left it open to new audiences that hadn't seen the original But they still loved it because it was so it was like the original and the new one and dress world are like parallel lines They're not the same line. They weren't the same movie But you know these kids that are trapped out in the park and the guy who knows all about the stuff he goes out to save them You know, it was just a lot of good.

It had a lot of good parallel lines, but it wasn't the same I always think it's where the every dressing park has a kid in distress Yeah, except the second one and all of a sudden she's like I'm a gymnastics and I can take on for lots of wrap Yeah, her like kicking a raptor. Yeah, you know what? And then all of a sudden I like how those pipes in Jurassic Park Lost World those pipes that she does her gymnastics are perfectly like that Like that's what my brain like, okay, really random pipes running through from they're perfectly spaced out like gymnastics, but she's like at nationals or something and she's like, oh, that's just building code She's a contractor as well. Yeah, she understands.

Yeah, so I think it was so good because he rode that nostalgia But he also paid respect to it, but he's like I'm also gonna do my own thing when they created a new dinosaur stuff like that and that's where again I love comparing Colin Trevorrow and James Gunn is because Colin he wrote he wrote the original Jurassic Park James Gunn he rode the typical Marvel crack of joke in every single time that we can and I think it just and after it after it came out right after The winner soldier, which was such I think Marvel's greatest product until Daredevil came out on Netflix But it was like James Gunn because he wrote it. I think he sacrificed character and good storytelling at the sake of a joke And Jurassic World they gave the story but the jokes didn't overrule They didn't you weren't waiting for the next joke in Jurassic World It's the idea for me like okay. What's the next joke gonna be? They're gonna try and create some people waiting for the next joke, but I'm gonna be honest Here's my qualms Jurassic World.

I I feel like everyone was just like a two-dimensional like Character who is only meant to serve a plot point like except for maybe you know Chris Pratt everyone like those two kids I really hated those kids. The younger one was worse than the older kid was a creep. He was a total Like he's just like he lives like staring at those girls like oh For like anything in the story I mean in the very movie like he has a girlfriend. Okay.

He's a girlfriend He's gonna be another girl on this island, but all these girls are like Just staring at them all weirdly like he creeped me out It was kind of uncomfortable. Yeah, but on the joke thing I like some of the jokes actually not some of the jokes only one specifically that stuff to me I thought was kind of a necessary in world or in world in world when everyone's leaving the island And he goes to kiss the girl great great. It's funny. It's funny.

I laughed. I laughed myself. It's funny But also oh when that when that terror jump on him no no no no and then after he gets back I'm not just when they're all leaving the control room in dress apart and dress park shirt guy wasn't him. Oh, dude I thought that was it was really funny.

I liked it, but also the same time everyone's like oh That's like to back to me. Oh my god. It looks like it really serious right now like everyone's leaving people dying and also like I'm gonna kiss the girl deny. It looks like a movie like an every tragic movie that guy's like oh here's my chance Yeah, that was a very emotional here.

That's the funny part I was making fun of those type movies like that. Yeah, I was making fun of those type of movies I thought that was cool just the timing on I was like I was because it makes you get like oh man It's kind of emotional when I was leaving and this guy's like oh, I was like wow. That's like someone's got to stay Like for you like for you like pulled you out of the moment. Yeah pulled you out of the moment Yeah, I did I think it did.

Yeah, it pulled you out of a moment in that suspense of disbelief that movies have But it got me right back into the movie. You got pretty much right back into it It really did everything in but in guardians there was a joke. It's not me out to take their jokes back me out Guardians the thing with guardians. I went in expecting that mean jokes because the comics do that When I read when you read the guardian line, there's there's not a dull moment with those guys Starless about to risk his life or something and he'll crack a knock knock joke like that's the comic So I expected that so someone who didn't read other comics then you expect to be like when her soldier was so serious Right it was very serious movie really like in the moment You know you were you felt for this the student's best friend beat the crap in each other like that and guardians You were probably expecting the same I need to be deep in this movie as a serious gogs about to blow up But then these guys are much of an idiot's and jokesters are like dude why you guys joke around is this serious But it's like you didn't expect that then yeah, you can think I don't understand what what my emotions are supposed to be right Yeah, yeah, I get that.

Yeah, I just I just like comparing because they both had the same meeting man And a huge beef the huge beef the biggest scene that I had with guardians Was when all of the guardians are saying what do we do? Do we help these people out? Do we save our own thoughts? I hated that scene that scene literally like I Re-bocked the movie just because actually because YouTube because YouTube like it was so good It was just so fun.

Do you like okay? I'll give another shot and my wife watching with me and I'm a brainwashed her But she thought the same thing like no, it just it kept saying the biggest reason why is because you have five characters Not five after five characters you have star lord gomora drex group and Rocket two of them are CGI characters are standing and then you have day petista playing dracks Who looks basically he's not an actor at all. He can't carry a scene to save his life And then all you have to keep his character his character didn't need acting He's pretty much like a other characters that like he doesn't need like it doesn't need like it just so many other movies that like oh He's just there for community and his lines were really good. Oh, I wasn't thinking about that part made me laugh but the One thing that comedy needs is timing you said it like perfectly like his timing the way he is intonations everything Comedy it's timing.

Everybody says that comedy is 10 times harder to do than a drama because everybody You know like you know comedy is hard because you have to Pacing timing everything is very crucial and plus it could have been the editing I mean jay, you're one of our editors for local media And you know more than anybody like if if a frame is off by more than you know a second or two It just loses that and I think bouncing between each character interesting side note like about sorry I just what you mentioned. I was reading an article one time about um kind of behind the scenes production crew of parks and rec And they were saying how on on their particular a crew The editors that they have just have happened to be um drummers also And so they were talking about how like they interviewed kind of the editor and he was talking about how like there is a certain like innate like timing That they're like musically almost musically like counting out the beats of their cuts And what's funny is that I know for me when I'm editing like a lot of the times I'm also going with the music like okay and I'm counting it out and going by measures and you know what I mean? Yeah, and so there definitely is like a very musical sense of timing that goes along with editing like a good editor can make a movie amazing Like I think I think a criminally underappreciated movie last year. Yeah was edgy of tomorrow Yeah, and the editor kicked ass on that movie.

He really really did I didn't even get nominated for anything. No, and I thought maybe a golden globe I have to relook But I and you said that and I was like, you know what that that I hadn't seen the movie Yeah, but I was like, oh my goodness editing was so good Yeah, the one I then I did read it wasn't an article because a lot of people didn't think so as well But I did read one blogger who said the same exact thing But the reason why it didn't get anything because I said It was too jumbled like you could add anything but the thing is that like it was it was organized chaos That's like oh just chaos you can go and you can make any cut anywhere Like it was organized and it made Audiences follow the storyline and I knew exactly when right because you know that day was repeating itself So every single time it cut and then knew exactly what time it was when it wears where he was all those things And that was that's why I think it was criminal because audiences knew who it was so yeah, yeah like in a good example How was that movie? Okay, remember a few years back? There's actually quite a few years ago now.

There's a movie with Dennis quaid where there's like like a shooting at the vantage point vantage point. Yes, I don't know my my where does the poop live again? The Vatican there's a shooting at the Vatican and you have a box Dennis quay. Yes, exactly at the height of Matthew Fox's lost career I love that family guy where they make one of them.

They're like oh you sound worse than what's his name? It's alive it's moving like It's just him breathing hard. Yes That movie to me is an example of how like you take the same moment happening over and over and over again and the editing killed it because that movie was Such a drag to watch I hated that movie But then edge of tomorrow takes that same concept of like watching the same day relived over and over and over again and jumping in at different moments Whatever and they really nailed it. So hogs day two So that's why like that one scene I don't think the timing was well because you had two CG characters And then you had one person that's not even actor and then all you have to carry a scene was Chris Pratt And as always old on it the comedy didn't fly with me It just didn't it just didn't click and I just kept getting snapped out It just didn't fly you then you go over to a movie that stars Chris Pratt as well very character driven And they you didn't have to they didn't delve into each character But you didn't know those kids were going through the divorce You know that she was you know she was not in scene with her sister, you know, I'm opiate daughter.

She's not doing with her family She was very corporate By the end of the movie she realizes like all these are not not just animals But it delves into each character in guards the galaxy rockets past like oh, I'm drunk You know, I'm just yelling at people kind of thing like they only had one snippet It didn't delve into character in all the other movies You know where they came from where they're at and where they're going and this movie it just didn't do that for me That's why I had a big thing with guardians that the characters didn't I didn't know them and I didn't care for them except star lord Because you knew him from the beginning. He was a kid. He got taken. Okay.

That's the only character I felt invested in No every other character I didn't care. I didn't care and that's and that was sad to me because those characters now like here You talk about the comic books and stuff like that those characters are awesome Yeah, I see like we just went to the comic book a concert and you got you know rocket And I'm seeing like all the kickass things that he makes And so that's the other thing like rocket and then rocket's gonna shoot him with rockets big ass gun and then like It's like an 80 millimeter Bullet and I was like that's it. Yeah, I kind of felt like that was very looney tunes though Like I kind of felt like that was pain reference to that sort of thing like something more like oxymoron Yeah, but it would be if they if they realized it themselves like that's it rocket What do you expect? Okay, cool, but they slowed it down.

It's like a slow motion like Boom it was a big ass show But those are just it just I didn't I think I think you said earlier they gave James gun too much too much too much Yeah, those are good now which brings me to another movie that I've incredibly have not seen I don't want you guys to talk about it is mad max because I was You guys told me that it rivaled greatness of just war it was yeah, that was really fantastic. It is the best Newest throwback to action movies easily it was they Seeing this movie if they're like die hard done again with a different actor now that mad max is redone Would you go see like would you okay and seeing that like a mad max? They can bring back retro characters and do it awesomely you think they can do it with with these characters like this rumor is Chris Pratt is gonna be the next Indiana Jones Um the thing is that hard thing is with a die hard Not just I heard but just um this will turn easily using die hard because it's come out with two two recent Yeah, read read done or sequels. Yeah, adding on those are two recent to make a change It's too recent you still got you didn't that was their chance to do or redo with a new actor not to mention They eventually became like a parody of themselves.

Yeah, like when you have Bruce Willis like walking on the wing of like a fighter jet and stuff Like you're like oh, it's because it did it so many times and I was just do again and now like but now what's gonna do We've done it all right so I really really really I think the story that was good with elevated like that guy was like a firestorm And then go with it online. I like the story that and the thing is also but that I hardly think was afraid Because they went ridiculous with some of the action but also held back to try and keep it really down to earth at the same time You can't do that. It doesn't then I get upset mad max was literally like hey Let's get really ridiculous and not fucking stop. Yeah, let's go over the top insane and then you didn't take That's a reality.

Just go it just goes literally Not just the explosions though not like Michael Bay like it's no no This means real explosions they blew up oracle they blew up 520 cars holy yeah to get the correct scenes Yeah, they did like I read there's like some pretty impressive like stuff that went on in post but in general they did like They relied relied more so on practical effects and stunts and stuff it than they did anything CG And nothing but the best stunt men and women for movie nothing but the best they got the best and also funny note Maxes or you know tom hardies stunt double and fierioso which is um Stunt double fell in love on set. Yeah. Yeah, they fell in love on set. It got married kind of cool And like their first meeting was in the scene and they fight each other.

Yeah, and that eventually Yeah, like they bought each other and then they're just like some chemistry they're like I really hope they go home and like they reenact that he's an act of your yo son. Oh, he's so hot like What's funny is that there's like no romance there in the whole movie? No their characters not at all like is there any love story in No, that's good. Oh, well, there's a little bit of the naz the guy who plays Oh, he does have a little bit of connection with somebody in the movie Yeah, but there's no real love connection like don't ever you know, so kids are like that but you can see like oh if you get out of this Live there will be some sort of connection, but they never really like feed you Yeah, but not between like max not between max and fearios or max anyone else.

No Yeah, I just I was a sidekick like that So I think it was really good because this whole world sucks Yeah, there's no hope at all and I think when you kind of see these sidekicks just start to maybe have these emotions with each other It doesn't overwhelm the story There is love on this one. No, no, they don't mention it. No, it's like what's really cool. What I liked is that everyone so this movie is like if The first few like this is crazy.

I don't know if you guys ever saw 13 samurai lately. I've been in this Oh, I want to see a 13-somer 13 assassin. Yeah So like what's that samurai movie that was like it's a black and white was mean oh, that's seven I want to see that right. That one's good.

And then But then like two or three years ago movie about 13 assassins hardcore, you know old school samurai type movie and What trips me how it was was at the first it's like a two-hour movie. Let's say the first hour is like set up Like you see like a super evil, you know warlord all this stuff and then here it be sir It's a period piece and then like this this dude who gets hired like hey you need to kill this guy So then he assembles just crew and it's like literally these 13 dudes versus this warlord and all his guys And so literally the second half of the movie is like this hour-long Non-stop sword fight and it is so brutal and so well cool. It flows like super well And because especially like they basically like set up this village They're like okay his men will be passing through at this point So they arm the whole village like there's points where like they set up alleyways Like just lined with swords in the ground so that they could run through like pick up a sword like stab some fool grab Another one and kill the next guy like they know that we have no time to f around like we got to start killing for this sound It's pretty amazing. So mad max like the first 12 13 minutes, maybe is like If there was if there was a more realistic view of like literally like hell That's mad.

They live in see okay literally and I like how you said that because again going back to Someone look up the director of med max. It's George Miller. Yeah. Oh George Miller.

Yeah, they were gonna hand him the reins of um justice league Oh in my 2008 Actually that actually reminds me they were there because you know how um Tim Burton was gonna make a Superman right with You know Back then back then he had a moly. No, it looks great. Yeah So now this guy he went on Kickstarter. I go find me one of those guys He was kickstart and he's like I have assembled like the lost script the The graphic designs the set designs all these things from the movie that was because they were like a week out from shooting or something like that And it got canned and he actually got an interview and he said I'm gonna create a documentary on The death of Superman because I was a movie wasn't gonna call it a death Superman And he got an interview with him Burton he got an interview with the producer at the time He got it and he's making a document and now they're making another documentary on the George Miller Justice League that would came out like uh arnie hammer.

Do you know who that is? He played a lone ranger. Yeah, he was gonna be Batman Some guy named cousin yetter something like that. He's gonna be Superman adam bird.

He was gonna be the flash They had it all kind of had a cast picture and a in a version read a gold read And it was almost about to get started and one of brothers candid and said no we're gonna we're gonna reboot new something else Um, so so anyways George really yeah, so good. So another thing is that Jurassic world the very beginning They establish this world like it it it it entrenches you in this world in your brain And it gets you in there and a lot of movies that do that a set a set scene instead of the time here They set all these things and it gets audiences invested into the story these movies with you know Michael bay and I hate Michael Bay A lot because I mean Michael Bay knows why people hate on you No, but I mean literally you watch mad max and it's like George Miller is everything Michael Bay wishes you could be yeah literally like literally Like if George will have walked in if they had worked together He would see Michael Bay with all his computers 10 years in here just like making the greatest looking Yeah I think George Miller would walk in and just like Sweep the desk with his arms with all the computers and drop a like a TNT That this is what we're gonna use like this is what people want to see that's awesome and it was yeah, it's fantastic Yeah, you look at those all sort of directions you talk about you don't set the scene anymore. They just Won't see right but you're saying that these movies, you know, they set a scene and they said it's a little bit Well, also mad max really deals in like the size the action does a little topics a little no if you pick it up He sets up a bunch of little things about this world Yeah, like the water They say that when he gives this warlord gives very little water to people and then he basically says He gives them very little bit and don't let it overwhelm you or get addicted because it will tear you apart So water is like a drug in this world How do they survive because this one and that's the thing is like all the people are like everyone is the most like desolate like It's rotten. Yeah, they look gross people look yeah And a lot of the people are just living in total like, you know, waste and trash and filth Not because not necessarily that everyone is that evil although yeah, like the depravity of man like is like times a million infinity in this movie But you see it's because people are like so desperate like there's one dude who controls all the water There's no more awesome.

It's like a natural thing. Yeah Yeah, there's like a little around this and look to him as God. Yeah, like promises them an afterlife if he if they follow him Yeah, it's yeah Promises them afterlife and then like you notice in the beginning of the film he controls the water so like from on top of this mountain Like there's these two pipes and then like every day. I guess every day He's like now, you know like blah blah blah.

This is the time of day He goes and opens up the water and then they all like rush They all try to like get a little bit of water and then he closes it off and he's like don't rely on this That's right. That's right. That's right. Yeah, don't turn your back on me and don't become tainted by the water or you will tear each other apart Oh my god, yeah, he's really like he like turned himself into an item.

Yeah, it's really good. Yeah, it's crazy And so with that I don't know I don't know if the exact I thought she was gonna stand up because I think I wanna bring up There's a scene I wanna break up like yeah, I'm gonna go fill up my bait I'm gonna go fill up my bait and bring this again. If you haven't seen Mad Max It's a spoiler, but it's a little spoiler. I'm gonna go fill up my bait and I'm gonna go fill my bait And I'm gonna make sure you're not the one because when you see this I'm gonna go back.

This is good. Here I go. You better run It was pretty decent. It was a little on the sweet side.

I think. Will you give me? Will you talk me off before? Why are you up?

Can you give me a glass as well and I'll give my coffee? Should we just pass? No, no, you talk about your thing. Okay, well no, drink drink.

I'm gonna fish my coffee and give me some alcohol Yeah Alright, so Max is the greatest like he's like the side hero in this film, right? Yeah, but whatever you see in the guy comes with a plan like oh, let's come up with this plan And we're gonna be very strategic about it and make sure we can survive this and things like that. Yeah, Max's plan is the greatest At the end, you know, we go you go to the fair. You'll say and they're like we have nowhere to go And he goes I know where you should go straight back where you came from right and they're like oh we go over the mountains to sneak around them He's like no no, I think we should just probably go directly through them like he's just so like it's not that bad Yeah, that like right there all like Max you are the most badass person ever to just be like I'm not afraid of them Let's just go straight through them.

Yeah, that was the coolest like I Danny just brought me a refill of Whiskey and Coke so whiskey comes pretty grateful because I'm trying to finish like I enjoy my coffee You know I'll enjoy this with Coca-Cola Coca-Cola not cooking Okay, yeah, so I want to bring that that was a goose pumping like That's good. It was the greatest like I can't I don't know I can't give it words Yeah, I was so stoked to hear that was a plan like because an all it said to was hey There's more action coming your way right all that's all it said It was yeah that definitely for me was a movie that like ooh This is the most overused phrase on the planet when it comes to describing movies But like when you think about like you know like white knuckle like edge of your seat Yeah, just there's so many moments of like you know living in a world of like they have very limited resources He had already you know earlier even well before that scene of like let's just go back You know he would they had like they're counting their ammo the whole movie Yeah, so you know how limited they are yeah, and when they're trying to snap the light Yeah, let him know five shots left right this okay for shots You know like that was amazing. Yeah, and then you know like okay. They're going back They're going back head on to face this yeah, and then there's just so many moments of just like oh my goodness How it's neck what's neck look at yeah, also great character.

I think ever created is the guitar guy That was amazing and also a little short note. This is a small difference we can put into now on this one Just any has removed the cone of silence. He's allowed to return from the movie Have you seen you know, do you remember now? The bad guy from the first man max which his name is Chase Some of the J summer but the villain from that the actor I don't really actually mean probably I do But if we really want to yeah, he plays the villain in a few road.

They just got the same actor to play a different villain Yeah, I thought that was kind of cool. Yeah, I thought so too. Yeah, you can't really tell but just that that was kind of interesting And he was pretty he's just I love what a good villain he was because he was so gross and grimy and all villains were masked Yeah, yeah, I'm at Maxwell like they'll all of my villains were masked Yeah, I really loved it. I loved I loved just like morton Joe Yeah, I loved how like just the pull like the shit what they showed how like his people like the one dude was like if he looks at me I'll be granted access to Valhalla.

Yeah. Yeah, just like their level of worship over him to where it's just a spray paint Yeah, so if you failed to do you do you value than you're permanently marked? They know you failed about like that's yeah, that's so they don't explain that but you you understand it when you see like the one As you know, he's all just oppressed about it. Yeah, I loved that.

I loved how like You know, like you said earlier Max is almost like this is he's almost like a sidekick in his own movie. Yeah, yeah But it was perfect. It was so good. I hear a lot of people complaining that wasn't enough Max But no, he's had three movies.

Yeah, you know, let him and he's you've seen what he's been through He's had his share. Yeah, his turn to return the favor to somebody else right I think that was like the main plot Yeah, I really like that. I really like like no doubt. I think that like You know, well, okay, I don't know when it okay, maybe we could switch it up for a second Danny could jump in on this Well, yeah, I haven't seen man But if I were to say like the top toughest like, you know, genre, you know comic in whatever action movie actresses right now Between like Charlie's there in as fear.

Yosa, you know, like almost anything so he's always like that. That's like the yeah Yeah, like Right now if for a long okay after I don't know if you saw it tomorrow. We were talking about earlier I saw a little bit of it didn't finish it. Okay, in that movie and probably because it's based off an anime friggin What's your name?

I'm sorry Emily Blunt Emily Blunt is like the ultimate. I want to say ultimate badass But then fear Yosa and she to me was like the toughest the toughest of the toughest female characters Yeah, she's awesome and then fear also comes along and I'm like Pretty piece and oh and she has one arm one arm and she's pulling off this stuff like my little beat me what that's a spoiler to me I was like well, you see a preview on like I think you preview That's also on the preview matching the movie. It was a preview is like a 10 It's insane. Yeah, and in the movie just like it's a 300.

See when I saw the preview And we're gonna do a little segment of trailer trash Your fus okay, okay. No, you go ahead talk. Okay. I'm just coming out when I saw the trailer I was really excited for the be I love some hardy, but I remember telling Jay.

I feel like I Feel like they were gonna do what To say what you like and he's crazy It's just a crazy Touch that with you a little bit on the Joker thing. Oh, I know you don't give hope now me and me Caleb or shall We'll get there. Okay, so I was like we're crazy and it's gonna be insane, but I'm hearing you guys The world is crazy, but cause and effect. Yeah The water human natural need for that and the effect of this is the depravity on this earth.

Yeah, and people are just going crazy because it's it's literally a Natural resource that the body needs if not your brain starts ticking off think you start going great. I get that now And I'm like okay, I'm because I did not know yeah water Yeah, no quite literally like not only is there not only water But because of like the talk like the radiation or all this stuff that annihilated the planet kind of think like people Except for this one dude up on the top of his hills people can't farm There's no more like you know cattle and wildlife to they live in there's a hellscape There's like the only like protein source left and this is really gross protein bars from snowpiece sir. No Did you see oh my god? It's so good another great independent film that freaking me so good Have you seen that snow pierce sir with I want to see it's so good dude like it really is good all the jokes It's just really good.

It's I do we need to like do a special episode because that move you didn't get enough love either Oh, it didn't know what it means. Okay, so sorry one more last thing about that like okay, so there's no water There's no farming There's no livestock one of the only sources of protein if you don't cannibalize is like a morning Joe up on the top of his tower feeds These women and like lactates them 24 7 so that mother's milk is a source of like protein and it's like so gross And then like people who are like dying in anemic they find people out in the and that's how they find Mad Max They find stronger looking people capture them hang them upside down and then drain their blood and like get the iron out of their blood Into you and They didn't really explain this but I look past it they can they found out Max's blood type and they find these scavengers people They've imprisoned them and they tattoo everything they're useful for and they're absolutely no so they're back They'll say oh this type of blood type organ donor has this this is this a tattoo at all so then you're like you look at your farm People you have this soldier need this to this guy around oh, he's got this one so their products at this point Yeah, so Max becomes a product and their feeding is blood because he becomes well on his back if you look closely I believe it's all blood type he was some what would you call it? A Red Cross call me all the time to a be positive. Oh okay.

A be positive can only give to a be positive except for that Oh, not like be positive to be there's something where they always calling me like your blood type is in supply But like really yeah, but I give life to know literally I give blood at least once here when I was younger I give a lot and one day the red cross sent me a card and said like here a hero And I actually said was like my blood type and like I don't need enough to I achieved like hero level Dude, that was all about you guys know like oh, yeah I unlocks the level 24. Wow. Anyway, so you're gonna cut me off Just I want to further talk about like the different ways that people are just like products there just the lowest of the low Brought down so it's like human to gravity that brings out like when people are just completely at their lowest That's what brings out the crazy. It's not like we're just wild Yeah, well, I mean Max even has a monologue when he says I like how that explains like that Japanese Max even says in the movie it was hard to tell who was crazier.

Oh, yeah, or everyone else. Yeah, so it really sets the tone for it Like yeah, that's okay. Yeah, and he said everybody's everybody's everyone's broken in their own way cuz everybody has a breaking point No one's a little crazy at some point and he's like in the world did that to everyone. Yeah, yeah, it's really good So dude, so okay, I'm sorry.

I just been on this first for years. I'm just saying about ending I just want to say this for years I was on a I don't know hiatus from action movies. I think for whatever reason like when I was younger along with anime I was into you know kung fu movies and all that kind of you know, I'm sure you expect that Bruce Lee he sucked no, I did not I would say you're really your fourth generation Bruce. No, okay.

No Yo, you're martial arts. Yeah, you did crazy forever today forever anything in a day. Yeah So when I was 13 my dad had me go learn martial arts because I had anger issues Yeah, my dad also did martial arts So he wanted me to get into it and from the age of 13 to 21 I Did you come though, which was created by Bruce Lee and Bruce Lee? I forgot Top one guy that guy taught a guy named Abel Sandoval Abel Sandoval top my teacher Dale They'll tell me so the way Dale always explained it because we were like oh, so did you ever meet Bruce Lee?

Like no, he's dead like oh like how many generations down are you and they would say you're fourth your fourth generation I mean, you know Bruce taught one guy one guy told Abel. I taught you my dad was also taught by Abel And I said your generation that's there wait was um Chuck Norris Chuck Norris Train by Bruce Lee. Yeah Christ the Texas Walker I think he's Texas Ranger named Walker Texas walkers No, what happened was that guy's a slack man that in that movie I forgot what was it way of drag that was way the dragon and it takes place and they fight in the Coliseum and Bruce Lee said I want a fight to open up the movie. I want to be a good opening Thing and they said who you want like why I need something that's trained 73 or 78 your fourth generation Bruce Lee Transcend time and speed you have a little bit of him inside of you No, no, no, so anyways, so he's like that year that they were gonna start feeling that movie Chuck Norris won the National Championship for karate So that he's like I want him because he actually knows what he's doing and I was forced Yeah, we could actually just like choreograph something now before that they sparred and the story goes that they sparred and Bruce Lee kicked his ass actually like hardcore and then Chuck was like oh I want to learn more because I know Karate is one style and but I want to learn different styles So yeah, so then and then he and then Bruce taught him after the movie was even me He went in was taught by Bruce because Bruce created his own because back in check well I mean that's a whole different right but yes, and so I remember telling you that though Yeah, I'm very well known in Jeet Kordot and you're like what and I said yeah, that's like He was a television actor.

No, are you kidding? You could like it no, there's one thing I would not talk shit about Bruce Lee I'm like, I'm like, I'm gonna kick your ass Like you could this is true You could say that I was you know saying that really fourth generation okay, but I I have a hard time Unless maybe I did maybe if I was teasing you and trying to get your eye out If I was trying to get your eye out of your Danny's really like toward but let me tell you something in my house growing up as a kid my dad never talked to me No, we had we had two things we had Bruce and we had Rocky. Oh, okay, and that was it you don't talk to about rock So you don't and you don't talk about Bruce either. Okay.

Okay. So yeah, so yeah today's no way to make fun He used to make fun of you because that's funny the Bruce Bruce is freaking awesome. I like Yeah, yeah, Bruce is freaking awesome. Yeah, I agreed so snow pierce sir the movies that you grew up with where those old school kung fu movies Yeah, old school kung fu movies um and so yeah, like we'd all kind of we'd do back in the day would be like all right Let's hang out tonight.

We're gonna like play soon. Capcom versus S. Okay, and then we're gonna watch some kung fu movies But anyways, I take in hiatus from action movies and just kind of got it on to all these different, you know little independent films and whatever documentaries so Anyways, I'll just dirty right now. There's this like All of a sudden there's just been this like reawakening Because it's true the michael Bayes of the world and all this kind of nonsense have like tainted things and for me That's part of why I've turned away, but then all of a sudden there's been this like dude just freaking like daredevil also good amazing So there's been you know mad max there was 13 assassins.

I saw these all pretty close together Where's your winner soldier was great? Um snow pierce sir like rocks my world. I thought like mad max I was like dude that was like the peak of action movies I'm not gonna see anything this good for 10 more years and then all of a sudden when I randomly put on snow pierce Sir and it was like those two movies are very similar vibe Because like the people who are on the back of the train where Chris Evans lives is similar to I can't find out what the protein bar For me, yeah, that was disgusting. Yeah, it's true.

I loved that movie. It was really good and I loved how like There's something to me about when action scene is filmed like in a little corridor like that Oh, that scene in daredevil in the hallway. Yes. Yeah, I mean that was friggin intense That brings me to like the greatest fight scene I have ever seen can I guess it go for it?

Oh boy the original old boy? Oh god It's so good the original old way history is the best fight scene I've ever seen ever seen the hallways thing with old boy Dude, here's all my list right now old boy and my brother says the raid one and two the raid is cool. Just really fucking ridiculous Like like pretty like like old boy was awesome. It was crazy like mind blown it was brutal.

I've watched it so many times It's not really kung fu. It's just like weird. Yeah, it's one new verse isn't it supposed to be what is that? A croff McGaugh or something like Israeli like or no, what I mean?

Like a style of I'm sorry every time with the raid It's yeah, it's we're gonna dudes are beating them with two white boys and a hammer and just hammer just be Crows yeah, it is so the music was great the hallway itself is like no It's not like a comic book my side view side But the whole way itself is no more than like five feet across It's really tiny so it's like always do packed in there. It makes you feel like you can go do it. It's so good I've watched it on YouTube after I saw the movie at least a dozen times. It's so good And in the raid's like yeah, let's do awesome fighting scenes with like insane Still cool.

Yeah, yeah, definitely old boys the best fight scene I've ever And the remake of old boy I can see it I can see it I can get it Because I didn't like it one is a remake of a movie that was great and then you Americanized it in the only time Americanized thing has been better than the original in my opinion is the office The office is is is British humor. Yeah, it's a little more dry. Yeah, but so but my friend Shof saw the new old boy Before he saw the old one because he just never you know picked up on it He loved the new one But makes sense because he loved the story the psychological fuck up that happens It's insane He loved that was one of the best moves I've ever seen and I was like that's so sad to me because if you saw the first one It would top doesn't even want it like I saw the new one but the one thing I do give the new one a bit of doubt Is they didn't try to touch the hallway fight scene? They kind of had like a really crazy action scene like that same scenario, but they didn't it wasn't as long It wasn't really the hallway.

Yeah, they didn't try to and I'm like who knows to you for not trying Yeah, because you were looking at them so I like that about it. Yeah, thank you. You can tell that's that end scene at their devil That DP was like I'm paying respect to it. Yeah, not the same way because it was it was from the backwards view Yeah, yeah, it was even one other than it was one continuous shot.

Yeah, and they didn't have to move even when you could do it in the room Oh, it's happening in there. You don't care. You don't care. You see Right from room the room.

It was so good. Yeah, that was like a really good homage to the old I When they went to the room, but please don't go in the room Please don't go in the room. Please don't go like I want to keep it right here. Yeah, cuz that that would that was so good It was so good.

Yeah, great awesome. Yeah, but that 13-simmer. I want to look sounds it's it's amazing. It really is I would highly I think that one's still in Netflix too.

I would say dear listeners if you have not seen either snow piercer or 13 assassins Remedy that right away if you love your eyeballs These eyes don't In your eyes very two different So the end of the day some great movies already have been coming out this year with Mad Max Jurassic World Age of Ultron we I think we all agree here. It was a good movie fun, but it didn't it didn't rival anything else that Marvel has done Yeah, I mean if there's if we can rate it a below exceeds or below meets or exceeds Well, this is a sea minus I like that means It means it meets what I wanted to see I like that it meant what I wanted to see it didn't see anything. That's why I don't give it anymore Yeah, I mean it was just me watching some fun heroes again is what it was they just gave you. Oh, here's another one.

Yeah So whatever yeah, so there goes another episode of us here at a pin earring. I'm talking about new movies I've come out this year Stay tuned listen to our other episodes talking about a lot of other things. Thank you. My name is Danny I'm Jason and thank you for listening floppy pancakes Soggy pancakes That up Sloppy soggy is good to banana pancakes banana pancakes.

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