Episode 2: The Craftsman - From Swiss Farms to Carpentry & Craft

Ahmed and Leo trace Leo’s path from a tool-filled barn in Herrliberg to a life built around making things in wood—starting with early projects like the Adirondack chair and the nerves of “selling your first real piece.”They unpack Switzerland’s apprenticeship culture, including farm life (living with your boss) and how that responsibility shaped Leo’s mindset.The conversation turns into a love letter to craft: why wood feels different than steel, why every board has a “personality,” and what makes work worth being proud of.00:00 From barn curiosity to real projects03:08 How it started : first build07:21 The “be happy during the day” philosophy08:46 Apprenticeships: freedom to pivot without panic12:27 Farm life: long hours, different families, real growth17:45 Canada: independence, culture shock, big-country energy19:35 Becoming a carpenter: the exam + leveling up24:28 Materials & meaning: wood, longevity, tools, and craft35:49 Inspiration and Future Aspirations