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EPISODE · Mar 31, 2026 · 51 MIN

Episode 2: West Texas Kiss & Kill

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Hunter and Jacob take you back to 1961 Odessa, Texas, where a case unfolds that still leaves more questions than answers.In this episode, you can expect a deep dive into the life of 17-year-old Betty Williams, from her home life and emotional struggles to the way she was perceived in a small, tightly wound community that didn’t quite know what to do with her. We walk through her relationship with John “Mack” Herring, the breakup that changed everything, and the warning signs that, looking back, feel impossible to ignore.From there, we break down the night Betty was last seen alive, Mack’s shifting story and eventual confession, and the disturbing discovery that followed.But this case doesn’t stop at what happened.Hunter and Jacob unpack the trial, the use of the temporary insanity defense, and how a small town’s perception may have influenced the outcome long before the verdict was ever read.This is one of those cases where the facts are there… but the truth still feels just out of reach.🎙️ Chapters:00:00 Podcast Updates + Listener Feedback08:11 Betty’s Life, Struggles, and Social World22:01 Mack’s Involvement and Confession27:46 Discovery of the Body35:28 Trial, Defense, and Verdict

Hunter and Jacob take you back to 1961 Odessa, Texas, where a case unfolds that still leaves more questions than answers.In this episode, you can expect a deep dive into the life of 17-year-old Betty Williams, from her home life and emotional struggles to the way she was perceived in a small, tightly wound community that didn’t quite know what to do with her. We walk through her relationship with John “Mack” Herring, the breakup that changed everything, and the warning signs that, looking back, feel impossible to ignore.From there, we break down the night Betty was last seen alive, Mack’s shifting story and eventual confession, and the disturbing discovery that followed.But this case doesn’t stop at what happened.Hunter and Jacob unpack the trial, the use of the temporary insanity defense, and how a small town’s perception may have influenced the outcome long before the verdict was ever read.This is one of those cases where the facts are there… but the truth still feels just out of reach.🎙️ Chapters:00:00 Podcast Updates + Listener Feedback08:11 Betty’s Life, Struggles, and Social World22:01 Mack’s Involvement and Confession27:46 Discovery of the Body35:28 Trial, Defense, and Verdict

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