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EPISODE · Jan 27, 2026 · 56 MIN

Episode 205: Witness before Wisdom: What Couples Need When Preparing for Marriage

from EquipCast · host Jim Jansen | Everyday Evangelization & Parish Ministry Tools

How can we expect couples to live a sacramental marriage when they’ve never seen one lived? So many of the couples who walk into our parishes today aren’t rooted in the life of the Church. Nine out of ten aren’t attending Mass, many have simply “slid” into the relationship, and most have never witnessed a joyful, vibrant Christian marriage up close. And yet—we hand them content, classes, and checklists and hope it changes their lives. In this conversation with Ryan Verret, we dive into why that model is breaking down and why the real answer isn’t more information, but more relationship. Ryan shares the deeply human insight at the heart of Witness to Love: that authentic conversion only moves at the pace of a friendship… and that the simplest act—having someone waiting for you in the pew—can open the door for grace to take root. If you’ve ever wondered how to truly draw couples into the heart of parish life, this episode will encourage you. Take a listen. [01:13] Ryan Verret's Background and Upbringing [09:35] State of Marriage Preparation in the Church [18:11] Witness to Love: Vision and Approach [26:19] The One Change That Made a Difference [29:39] The Need for Comprehensive Faith Formation [32:45] The Mentor Couple Model [40:38] The Impact of Witness to Love [44:29] Personal Reflections and Broader Implications [53:02] Connecting with Witness to Love Check out Witness To Love, or connect with Ryan by emailing [email protected]. For more practical advice and experiences from real people sharing their mission with the world, go to https://equip.archomaha.org/podcast/. A Production of the Archdiocese of Omaha Editor: Taylor Schroll (ForteCatholic.com)

How can we expect couples to live a sacramental marriage when they’ve never seen one lived? So many of the couples who walk into our parishes today aren’t rooted in the life of the Church. Nine out of ten aren’t attending Mass, many have simply “slid” into the relationship, and most have never witnessed a joyful, vibrant Christian marriage up close. And yet—we hand them content, classes, and checklists and hope it changes their lives. In this conversation with Ryan Verret, we dive into why that model is breaking down and why the real answer isn’t more information, but more relationship. Ryan shares the deeply human insight at the heart of Witness to Love: that authentic conversion only moves at the pace of a friendship… and that the simplest act—having someone waiting for you in the pew—can open the door for grace to take root. If you’ve ever wondered how to truly draw couples into the heart of parish life, this episode will encourage you. Take a listen. [01:13] Ryan Verret's Background and Upbringing [09:35] State of Marriage Preparation in the Church [18:11] Witness to Love: Vision and Approach [26:19] The One Change That Made a Difference [29:39] The Need for Comprehensive Faith Formation [32:45] The Mentor Couple Model [40:38] The Impact of Witness to Love [44:29] Personal Reflections and Broader Implications [53:02] Connecting with Witness to Love Check out Witness To Love, or connect with Ryan by emailing [email protected]. For more practical advice and experiences from real people sharing their mission with the world, go to https://equip.archomaha.org/podcast/. A Production of the Archdiocese of Omaha Editor: Taylor Schroll (ForteCatholic.com)

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