Skip to content
Episode #229 PB-What? The Role of the Pharmacy Benefit Manager in American Healthcare Today with  Shawn Gremminger, President and CEO, National Alliance of Healthcare Purchaser Coalitions episode artwork

EPISODE · Jun 10, 2026 · 36 MIN

Episode #229 PB-What? The Role of the Pharmacy Benefit Manager in American Healthcare Today with Shawn Gremminger, President and CEO, National Alliance of Healthcare Purchaser Coalitions

from Creating a New Healthcare

Let’s talk PBM’s. What even is a P-B-M? Pharmacy benefit managers have been around since the 1960’s, although back then, they were basically claims processors. Things changed in the 80’s and 90’s following the first iteration of ERISA when employers saw PBMs as potential cost containment strategies. The industry continued to explode until 2007 when CVS acquired Caremark, and now the market is really consolidated into just three major players. Why does this matter? Well, PBMs control just about everything drug-related in the US these days, and that includes the cost. Given that we have not seen the promised drop in drug prices, Americans and employers are still bearing the burden of this bloated and broken system. To unpack how this works and what folks are doing about it, we invited back Shawn Gremminger, the President and CEO of the National Alliance of Healthcare Purchaser Coalitions. His organization works with regional coalitions of employers to help them advance health policy, leverage their collective power, and drive market change.

Episode metadata supplied by the publisher feed · Published Jun 10, 2026

Embed this episode

Ready to play

Episode #229 PB-What? The Role of the Pharmacy Benefit Manager in American Healthcare Today with Shawn Gremminger, President and CEO, National Alliance of Healthcare Purchaser Coalitions

0:00 36:47

No transcript for this episode yet

We transcribe on demand. Request one and we'll notify you when it's ready — usually under 10 minutes.

No similar episodes found.

No similar podcasts found.

Frequently Asked Questions

How long is this episode of Creating a New Healthcare?

This episode is 36 minutes long.

When was this Creating a New Healthcare episode published?

This episode was published on June 10, 2026.

Can I download this Creating a New Healthcare episode?

Yes. Use the download control on the episode player to save the publisher-provided media file.
URL copied to clipboard!