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Welcome to the wish show. I am castle. They lied to you No, I really am. I swear I'm castle.
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Wow. Wow. I'm not quite sure where to go with that. We're getting close to NC Okay, like I said welcome to the wish show.
It's been an adventure. We've kind of been inconsistent with our shows the last month or two Yeah, are you gonna leave that in? What's wrong with you? My bad joke that I just said?
Yes. Oh, that's what you get. Oh shit happens It's not like our show could get any why filter isn't working. That's because I got to finish this.
She's playing on her phone Dan's busy doing cross-ropeLL going straight to hell because Dan's not paying attention My mom is not doing her job. So let's go around and introduce everybody. I am castle to my immediate right is silent dawn Followed by the end hello and Tim the slob whisper. I think silent dawns it goes today You know what?
This is actually I think one of the first podcasts we've actually recorded without silent dawn and the listeners will never know that he's not really here Or is he? Excuse me. Well, my favorite part is the fact that a silent dawn has spent what a couple hundred dollars on recording equipment And he says hi every podcast we do occasionally you hear him chuckle. That's true.
And he's not silent at home He's actually quite chatty at home. Well, as a close your ex husband who was always silent judging us at family thing next And then we have a brandy with us or peaches if you need some to silently judge you at a family picnic I'll come yeah You sit in the corner and silently judge me judge you all while you're reading your scriptures at the family barbecue Yes, oh whoa, that's not too much. Yeah, you gotta be reading your scripture What you say I can pretend to read my scripture. There's a time to read your scriptures, but family barbecue is in not it folks Yeah, well the silent judging is the best part.
Can I silently judge you while watching porn on my phone? I think we should silently judge you while you're watching porn on your To be silent judging who would know the circumstances You know and not to go too far off a shelter here, but yeah, Dan's ex husband We had a family barbecue and I was watching Star Trek Enterprise. I don't know if you guys remember Star Trek Enterprise I'm not that old but yes I've heard of it It's actually not that old and well I have to laugh because the final episode of Star Trek Enterprise takes place on the holodeck And it's actually tied into an extra generation episode and commander Reicher is like reliving the final adventure of The starship Enterprise from Enterprise you sound like my father. He talks about storm trade your father's a cool guy It's also really old just like you Say it.
Yeah, I'm not gonna say it almost dead and she cut you off moving on So we tried to explain this plot to the unsex husband and he just could not grasp it It was to the point where I almost got like a whiteboard and a dry red You did get a whiteboard almost like you did. Yeah, you actually did you actually drew a picture for him And he still didn't get it and he said it. Oh, I understand them like five minutes later. So wait a minute He time traveled no he didn't time travel.
He's not a frickin holodeck It's not a game. All right, I totally heard it out on the side of the line Basically, I heard already read somewhere that that actually ruined the whole series So what it's be safe to say that that he ruined your marriage. Oh, yeah Well, I was gonna say that could be a whole podcast in and of itself things that ruined It's actually really easy. It would be a kind of the number one and excels the number two both super nice guys But both insane plus art.
Yeah, I heard this was a paranormal show it is it is but we're talking about the ends I'm telling bad jokes. I don't know what the hell's going on today. So like I said, we've had some kind of hiccups You know, I'm actually gonna go into them a little bit just because I'm not one who likes to keep things Simple. Yeah, so about November December this year That's not possible that hasn't happened yet of last year I was having some marriage issues that had been a couple years in the works So I kind of moved out for a period of time which made it really hard to record and we were having equipment issues Which all that has been resolved it's all fixed we hope and we hope I'm talking about the equipment parks I think we've got that fixed now too.
We hope However in the fun and excitement that is 2016 I got diagnosed with cancer. Yeah Yeah, well there's pluses there's positive things to this Okay, everybody gets stickers and we're gonna put stickers on my ghost honey stuff I got my label right there. I make everything mine right now And when I die if your name is on the ghost honey You can have that piece of ghost any equipment So if I do it like a cat does it go pee on all your stuff is it mine that shows ownership, right? Let's wait till I pray that before we do that now what you guys start out So because I was like a piece of ghost honey equipment who do I go to?
Don't be okay Wow this show just no golden showers The part where time is this is gonna just tear the wall like what happened to me wait my here Well, I started it out like going off the deep end and apparently y'all joined I Broken this is like I have free reign tonight. I don't know what to do with it I'm just like a deer and headlights like so does this way bring it back with heaviness a cancer No, there are plus sides of the fact that Tim's gonna pee on my ghost here I can add his I can now eat hot dogs. We're back getting more cancer. Why the hell do you want to eat more hot dogs?
Matter with you In case you wonder we just like half of our podcast listeners So often they're laughing about cancer the way our family works we are family works we deal with stress through hemer So we're not trying to be rude Okay, yeah, just cancer hell survive I probably was a whole cancer I hope not Work we're going to help oh that was a case you'd have it too So here's the deal cancer is not like it sucks, but our dad had cancer about the same age He was diagnosed cancer to bring tumor and he's still alive. He can't remember me from my brother So I have to sit he pays and thinks I'm gay It's not far from the truth at all my brother's name is Jeff and he came out of the closet what 10 years ago? No longer not longer not using college anyway So I'll be at home in pacing though. I'll hear Grandpa Castle don't know what wrong with your brother Gary wish you could find a nice girl and stole all those boys he likes No, I'm Gary Jeff is the one who likes the boys Just I'm the married one So he had the cancer our grandpa Carter died of the cancer and I'm actually relatively young for I've got old man cancer I've got prostate cancer, which is like an old man disease, which is like I'm 30 years too young for this particular cancer But I got it so cancer doesn't discriminate yeah But like my I wish these odds were good for me in Vegas as they are in real life because it's like a one in 10,000 for my age group Which is not really great odds to get it Lucy says hello we need to exercise the demons Put smoke and cigarettes although I've seen some of the treatment options in one of the getting raped by what looks like a sea urchin Whoa, hey, that's not a cure can of the soil.
Oh, it's like 18 needles And she radiation never will figure out what happens with that so anyway, so between the cancer Thank you, Tim. I'm glad you keep track it anyways over there So hopefully we won't have any more slowdowns, but we don't know because there's that whole cancer treatment thing I'll still be doing ghost hunting and worst case scenario do extreme ghost hunting from the other side And I'll leave you guys really awesome. I'm just gonna still all this equipment to take it home and you'll have the beaker show And we can't make fun of him when he goes bottom. Oh, oh, oh my beautiful hair It'll be the beaker show with you could smell like pee They won't know that they can't smell on the show I'm a new beaker podcast.
I have cats Name Tim this love whisper all right, so what do we got on our agenda today? Before we hear from Tim and I know I ask you what we have an agenda I do want to mention if you have like any fresh red shaker head like shut up wait And just on a serious note our good friend Jimmy Changa his father passed away a few days ago So we just want to kind of put out there that our thoughts are with him at this time and And our prayers and our You can go and we do love you chunga and if there's anything you need from us or the listeners let us know You know your thoughts and prayers absolutely Yeah That air no that air for your moment of silence I didn't figure be appropriate to break into jokes after talking about that for just a moment So you are all staring at me. I wasn't sure We're waiting for the inappropriate comments from Tim well you're talking about someone's father passing away I don't that's not something you joke around. I know I've been here time.
So what do we got there you are? My contest is what the paper says actually the paper says contact Contact because I can't talk about my contact. It could be that maybe you're putting that together while you're in church Must be no this I put this together before church. That's why I was late for church.
Uh-huh So let's talk about Tim's context. Yeah, so my contact. I tried to update it a little bit a couple days ago I was trying I was trying really hard to get someone to To Come to fear factory with us like a pay for them I I bumped it down from a thousand likes a hundred likes and we still didn't reach that word 750 now So I will not be paying for someone to come to fear factory because we didn't meet the requirements for that part of the contest But I still do have it going once we receive a 1000 likes on our Facebook page So only 250 more I do have a k2 meter with sound to give to somebody I've already ordered it's in the house and those are the awesome k2 meters now the best way to do that Because I know you're hearing going boy. How can I get you guys 1000 likes?
I've already liked it myself share our page with all your friends All your family share share share and if you don't cross any cool like partner articles Bring them to Tim's attention or my attention or somebody's attention We try and post stuff on their relatively frequently stuff. That's fun things are interesting things that are creepy But there may be dry periods where we're not finding stuff So if you guys run across something you think is kind of ghosty let us know because we will put it up there and it's fun to see Actually, I have a bunch of stuff in the post one of them about the ex-testist movie and that's supposed to curse Tell us about this extra-testist movie curse. I haven't read the article yet But I did find a post I go through my friends feeds and when they find cool stuff like that I actually save it But I do know that There is like seven supposed curses with the ex-test movie which once I read that I will be up on our page along with some of the other stuff I've saved You know interesting thing about curses is the polar guys movie supposedly had a curse We're basically many of the cast members except for I think one or two Had tragic accidents happened to him shortly after the movie or during actually there wasn't any special I can't remember it was like behind the scenes or whatever that show used to be called They did a whole like two-hour documentary on the curse of that show and I've been trying to find that so I connected by it I would love to watch that again And I've been wanting to sit down with the peaches here and watch that Movie to see if there's actual spirits that weren't supposed to be in the movie the polar guys the original one. Yeah Yeah, have you not seen that peaches?
No, there's reasons why I have not seen that too. Oh, I think I know we're doing it. I think I know We're doing it for the podcast She shakes her head me in there. She knows I have both of them on blue race.
I wonder if she's ready to watch them Shall I let me know my fear of clowns is too great that would be a good scary clown movie I'm not gonna lie. You're trying to give me nightmares. Yes. Well, did you do that to me?
I'm a bad person. Which is why I got the cancer There we go. This game to shakes her head. All right, so tell us what your contest.
Yeah, what do you got? Okay, so I got this actually had quite a few people email me stuff and there's a lot of good stuff This is your dreadful right velvet contest. Yes red velvet cookies red velvet Oreos I got all this stuff. They had red velvet onion rings, but I have to admit that the winner is the person who sent the red velvet chicken fingers Red velvet chicken fingers red velvet chicken fingers now the person there was no name on the email So there's just the first part of the email was a pseudo joy So pseudo joy if you could email me Some like your name and address.
I will send you a piece of ghost something quick A pseudo joy you're a bad person for finding a little bit chicken fingers. I'm just gonna put that there You're a little bit chicken fingers disgusting and it's funny because my husband even though he doesn't know the castle very well Was looking for everything red velvet to post the DM I see how this is so after I help Alex at your wedding move flowers around and meet up people who weren't supposed to be there Kind of thing he's looking for develop. I see sorry Alex I'll be looking out for you Alex, but you know there's a I would say the runner up was actually from Becky Becky star Yes, it's great Becky. She would have been the runner up And I think I've been here back from pseudo joy then a little bit go to Becky But she had red velvet dip put on cucumber slices What the?
Why would you ruin cucumbers like that? Why would you ruin ruining by? That's like poop on poop with poops Like a five-year-old self I Didn't know that doesn't like the he doesn't like the Or two cameras are awful. So moving on sooner.
Don't get me some info. So we had Tim's contest Dan's contest Let's talk about that coming fair factory investigation. So the fair factory investigation will be March 26th You can actually buy tickets there are for sale on our website right now WISPS.org WISPS.org right there on the front page This is by tickets. I have made this investigation very small What I mean by that is with team members can come into the investigation and I have topped out the tickets at 20 tickets So people who are not WIS numbers and by tickets.
It's gonna be a it's gonna be a small investigation It's not gonna be 40 50 people. It's gonna be a close group It's gonna be I refer to an investigation like this is semi-private So it's gonna be the WIS team plus we're gonna let in a couple handfuls of people to investigate with us So it'll be a little more intimate than say a full-blown pod bash investigation or a grim ghost tour investigation or another Investigation that nature. I'll be on the 26th I'm still waiting here from Lurch and by the way Lurch isn't here tonight He is going to school and has some school stuff. So he is sitting tonight out As soon as I hear from him, I'll have the time that we need to meet there at fear factory My guess is it's gonna be probably eight thirty nine o'clock is probably about when we're gonna start and for those who ever investigate the fear factory It's an awesome location as brende is shaking her head at me furiously.
No, it's a very active location It's a very dark location. Would you say it's dark as or darker than the family tree? Darker the family tree That's interesting because the last investigation that I was at a family tree with him and I did we talk about that on Last podcast him no because we didn't record our last podcast do we not report our last We had a cancel the last recording Due to illness and Deann's remodeling of your home. That's true to the end Do I do an injury model of my home?
Hey mom helped Yes, and my mother helped as well and they tore things up and destroyed things and repainted things We were we were scheduled to record the day after we did a imagery. Yeah, in fact, I came home and saw my house destroyed and thought Yeah, I don't think we're gonna be recording. Yeah, but it looks awesome. Yeah, but you paint my home That is beautiful orange.
Oh orange. You think that's orange? It's called yellow. No, it's called acid burn your retinas out.
That's where you got the cancer. It's sunny yellow No, it is not it's sun shiny and happy. No, it is now go for a walk outside now Cold blue paint is a nice calming blue. It's cold.
So fear like your heart It might be the filter tonight So let's talk about family tree little bit Tim since you and I were there family tree that investigation And I know we've been there numerous times before but we were contacted by some college students who were actually doing a That a class what was it on Tim? Do you remember? I have no idea. It was like some either on religion or Philosophy or it was somewhere that either partake of a religious ritual or a paranormal something or other So they contacted us and asked if we could get them involved in an investigation I Contact the family tree and they had an opening and I talked to the college students who decided that they were willing to pay the family Trees entrance fee and so Tim and I took the college students.
It was actually kind of a fun investigation the fact that they were What only eight of us are told maybe yeah, it was really nice. There was so there was the three girls in the guy from the college group And then we were actually able to bring in some of our potential candidates for our joining our team. I was able to bring in a couple investigators Chris and Frank yes And we invited some other potential investigators To come with us. We've tried with our recruiting process to get people on investigations Just to get an idea of what it's like to investigate with them see what their pros and cons are So this is one of those opportunities that's a small investigation to get outsiders involved with us on that and then we had Ashley who is One of the proprietors as family tree and then Randy Boole who also works with the family tree and also works with us as one of our Two primary mediums that we work with and then we had a couple members of the kitchen staff So I think all together there was only 13 of us.
Yeah, well, so there was the four college students You and I Chris and Frank and then the four employees. Okay. Yes, we had about 13 of us So it was still a fairly small group. Yeah, it was a really small group and it was actually fascinating Ashley who works at the family tree Last time we were there and Randy was with us Ashley got attacked in the basement by Lucy and What happened is actually started feeling kind of weird.
She more or less kind of passed out and Brandi managed to get her upstairs Brandi stayed downstairs with me and I know we talked about this before but Brandi was kind of staring off in his face and She's like me like I don't know Brandi this cuz she doesn't and she had her hand come up in a claw her right hand And I talked to her said hey Brandi Brandi you okay and she's starting off in his face So I grabbed her right hand with my left hand Her wrist actually grabbed her wrist and she looked at me and it's interesting when someone's under the control of the spirit They get this really strange. We spread look would you Tim? It's just a blank look on their face, but it's it's kind of an experience a blank look But then also kind of like looking at eyes of like Charles Manson you're like homicidal like crazy Yeah, like the eyes are almost completely black in a sense like their face is just a blank look on their face But their eyes are just full of hatred. Yeah, it's just that you can just see the hatred in the eyes and so Brandi's looking at like her both insane today.
I don't know what you're talking about So she seemed to look so I've grabbed her I grabbed her wrist and with her other hand She grabbed me by the throat and started trying to choke me Fortunately for me, she's like five foot nothing and like 80 pounds and so she wasn't able to actually choke me But we're able to get her upstairs and kind of deal with that now fast forward to our family tree investigation a few weeks ago I'm downstairs in the basement and I've got one of the college students is there with me I think his name was Quinn Yeah, and then Ashley was down there with me and I think that might have been it was everybody else was upstairs with me at that time Yeah, Brandy Boole was down there with us And a couple others and Brandi said you know what something's energy's changing I'm getting out of here and actually said something effective. I'm tough. I'm not leaving So I'm down there and Ashley's just she's a sweetheart. She's just a very nice lady There's just I can't say anything bad about Ashley because she's just very nice What was interesting was at the beginning of the night she said that you know every time that B says You know, I have a bad feeling but she get out she always says no I'm gonna say and she said it'd be like you know if you do that again I'm gonna leave and she did the same thing B said she had to leave and Ashley's like no I need to stay Right and I think Ashley's trying to just show because she's there all the time running these hunts I think she's trying to show that she was stronger than What was going on the basement of the family tree?
And again, I can't say it enough there. I don't think there's a mean boat and Ashley's body She's just kind of the nicest lady She ever would meet and and I don't mean to be rude when I say this but she's also not a small lady Ashley's a bigger down and Ashley's a bigger down And so we're down there in the basement. I'm going somewhere with that by the way I'm not just bringing it up for no reason so we're in the basement and as we're talking I see Ashley kind of slump over Almost like she's asleep and so I hey Ashley, are you okay? You heard the street ready?
Through Ania. Okay, so was that either? For part of the day. I didn't know that.
So Ashley, are you okay? And she's kind of fine, but she's kind of slumped over weird with like her chin on her chest Eyes kind of half closed Ashley are you okay? Anyway, I asked a couple of times and finally she jumps up out of her chair And again, keep in mind Ashley's is not little and Ashley doesn't move quickly That's just not Ashley Ashley, but she jumps out of the chair slams both fists down on the table and Says basically and if you got kids listening from her there's Quick fucking ask any questions as what she basically said and pan on the table basically lunged at me Which was totally completely utterly out of character for Ashley and you could feel the energy in that basement just shift It was just really dark and evil for lack of a better term As you lunge at me, I grabbed her by both shoulders. I'm not gonna lie.
I mean you get that kind of scared whoa for just a second at the same time We've all dealt with enough stuff in the stream that when that happens you kind of get that I'm scared for a second, but then you kind of go into I am in control mode So grab Ashley shoulders. Hey calm down sit down and then she more or less collapse like someone cut her strings And at that point she kind of came to and we're able to get out of the basement That's one of the first investigations that we've done there aside from our very first investigation I don't think we spent hardly any time in the basement the rest of the night Just because the whole back room was just really well after that happened We actually did go back down to the basement just the guys we left all the girls in the main Diagon area and all the guys me you Frank Chris and Quinn all went back downstairs I thought was interesting with that is I know that Lucy does not like to be filmed and I film everywhere I go on these public investigations and We went back downstairs and it was kind of weird because after all that happened You know like he said like he said it was kind of dark and heavy on the energy down there But when we went back down it kind of wasn't that way so I said I want to test something and I Left with my camera and as soon as I got back up into the banquet room the main dining area you guys told me that the energy completely shifted when I left the room and What was interesting it was the same for the girls I guess Lucy had decided to follow them upstairs and when I came upstairs with my camera She went back downstairs with you guys So like just the whole building just from me moving from one space one part of the building to the other Just the whole energy of the whole building just shifted when I went from one room to the next It was a it was an interesting investigation that part and for anyone who's ever investigated with me I know a lot of our listeners have through the various pog-gob and hunts I usually don't retreat from areas even if I feel like it's gotten kind of Heavy I very rarely say we need to get out of here Usually brandy is at the top of the stairs or down a hallway shouting me Hey, you need to come out of there now and sometimes I will just because she's my friend and I respect her and I So I will but this is one of the first investigations where when we went back down to the basement the second time I think we're down there for about 20 minutes and finally I said you know what it's we need to get out of here Because it was heavy enough that I was not comfortable down there, which is really saying something Well, I thought it was interesting is that whole half of the building just stayed dark Like I went over there after we all came back upstairs to get my drink up and just walking in there I felt like walking through a brick wall with how dark and heavy wasn't there So that's when I decided to test our potential investigators and set them over one time to see if they felt it and The other thing that I was really interesting was when the college kids not to say that there's anything wrong with them They did anything but when they all left and it was just you know us and Chris and Frank the the energy in the building changed quite a bit Like the heaviness kind of went away. Well, I part about my I wonder this is pure speculation on my part Three the three the four college students were girls Very young girls probably what 18 is old. They're like 19 maybe maybe 20 I'm thinking 18 to 19 and at least two of them if not all three were Pretty much petrified through the whole night.
They were kind of in a knot of human flesh That's a two of them are scared the one girl didn't seem like she was but they're all still like seriously in a knot for most of the night like all three much kind of go on together into one human entity And I kind of wonder if the negative energy and the negative entities there at family tree knew that they were freaked out and was really Yeah, it's a bit of a shake. Yes. Yeah, I think I mean if you're afraid and whatnot feel free to that and that's kind of what I got is basically she was exciting for her. Yeah, it gives up something to play with kind of an in if you will But it was a good investigation in fact the place it never sees assuming is me like something always happens We're there.
I've rarely been there not has some sort of activity In fact, there's a pretty good chance that we and I don't know if I told you guys this or not I am working a deal with the owner where we may get two investigations there a year We're the only thing we have to pay for is food and that's for some trade work for some web stuff for them And if that's the case we may open up some investigations for listeners to go there And so that's just up to look forward to on the horizon. You know, it's funny. It's knowing what's in that building I'd still love going there and investigating. I've never had a bad time the family tree.
There's always some level activity in fact speaking in which Ghost adventures with a venture. Yeah, they actually have filmed there back in December and I believe the episode aired last night Yeah, and actually before we get into that I just wanted to mention my own personal little deal at the family tree The silent dawn and I actually made An a dinner appointment there was some friends non-ghost hunting friends It was just us and some other people turned out that we were the only ones that showed up and it's interesting knowing what's there and having Been there before and and being there not in a ghost hunting sense I walked in and I could feel Lucy kind of prick her ears up as it were And I could tell that she was thinking I know you you've been here before and then you can all of a sudden Just feel her go. Oh, she's just here to eat and feel her settle back down. It was the strangest thing You know, but yes So ghost adventures did do a show with the family tree it aired last night And I don't watch ghost adventures as often as I used to because the more I do this the more they annoy me because they tend to be over dramatic No But you know I watch I kind of wanted to see what they would do and what they would say and I Think overall they kind of had the very same feeling that we get when they ended the show I'm jumping back to the end when they ended the show Hasak said that this is a spoiler alert.
So if you want to watch this, I'll give you 10 seconds to pause Okay, so he said that was a very very dark location at one point I think Lucy may have actually taken him over for a second I don't know but he was kicking chairs and And swearing and whether that was just his drama or if she actually did but knowing that she has done it before and hearing of it And seeing it I didn't put it past her So he did when he was kicking the chairs he was actually calling her out I don't think he realized that that's who he was talking to we've had much more experience with that than he has But he was actually provoking her and actually challenging he challenged her and I was like oh dude don't do that Yeah, if you watch the episode please don't go down there and it goes on start challenging Lucy It's not gonna end well for you now There was a girl there and I think she was actually being affected for real I mean she was Zach's Zach's not burst Mmm, you know the jury's out in my case But I do think that Lucy was affecting the girl the thing that I thought was interesting though is they were more focused on Things upstairs and the spirit that we have encountered I think his name is Peter I see the mean one that kind of controls the upstairs Peter. I want to say that's Henry or Hank Okay, I can't remember his name, but they were more focused on him They didn't go down in the basement a whole lot not till the very very Yeah, they were down there for not that long they didn't really do much of the basement They did try to focus a lot on the skinwalker area I mean they went to the teetenate and talked to a historian and I'll have to use a watch show because I think it's I would dramatize them a lot of it's full of crap I usually watch guess hunters, but I will watch it and which you all know what I see in the video I think if Lucy was actually affecting anybody my guess is it was and the girl that's on the group was new I can't remember her name, but it's it's the girl I think it was Ashley she was their photographer and they did something I would never recommend doing they actually walked Corey and Her sister and her mom outside to the car and left the girl in the restaurant by herself She was the only person in the building I would never do that with the one on our team They also do the sance which I would not suggest doing that either. Yeah I see a sense of yeah, because there's plenty of stuff there. You don't need to have you know I every time I've been to family tree with maybe one or two exceptions I've probably Investing into that many more than any other just because we're so close with a lot of people who run it and it's so close to our location But it's very rare that I've been to family tree where someone is not flat out gotten their ass kicked by Lucy I know we went on a on the paracon ghost on Tim and I did Tim Brandi and I and there were somebody who got a couple people There was a couple I even got affected was by Lucy, but by another spirit, but even I had something happen Yeah, every time I've been there somebody's gotten walloped and so yeah, I don't know that I would leave anybody alone There to be honest with you That's one of the few places where I don't know that I wouldn't want to stay alone for any time And as long as this sounds even ones went on and I were there just for dinner I felt a little weird just going there for dinner without Ghost hunting pals with me.
Yeah, I just that place makes me just a little uncomfortable by myself I mean I've got into the basement by myself to get gear and whatnot after an attack But even that just makes it look like you're insane and I have I've got to the basement But to be honest with you when I've gone into retrieve gear after an attack and there's been issues I mean I'm straight in get gear and get out and I really don't waste a whole lot of time in between Bebop and round asking questions hanging out by myself down there and there are places on investigations where I have hung out by myself Which is not something I'd normally recommend like I did it Brandi shaking her head At off right my theater There's a room that I found that I sat in that room for myself for probably a half hour with a recorder just to see what I could get But normally I don't recommend anybody being by themselves on an investigation It's just I don't know that there's so that's the other thing that kind of wrinkles my hide with with ghost adventures I really don't mean this lemon just their style is so different from what I would do But that's one of their gimmicks is they'll send for Aaron into a room all by himself And I just think yeah in my opinion there should be at least two people in the room Yeah, really at any time they really ought to be at least two people in fact speaking which there was some photographs posted from I guess They had a dinner there last night with the family tree while they watched the ghost adventures Investigation and someone caught some stuff on photos to do perchance see those One was brandy be in it that she posted That's another photo okay cuz that one has something in it But they have not the one she posted actually I'm not less too crazy for just a minute. I'm just gonna pause the podcast and find this now You look at it. We'll talk about we could walk a while while west so hang on hold out We will be right back after these messages from our sponsors All right, and we're back now that we've spent 15 minutes looking for the picture on Facebook But the picture they call us and it looks like they caught probably the skinwalker and Lucy Which are probably two of the most prominent spirits besides Hank at the family tree in my opinion There's a kind of mention this in the show last night There's kind of like a turf war going on between Lucy and the skinwalker and it actually surprises me a little bit to see You know brandy point out that both of them are next to each other in the picture So they're having a battle usually once they don't want to see the other one see on the other side I know they do kind of crossover, but yeah the skinwalker is fighting to basically claim the rights to his land because He was a native American in the area and by the way I should actually point out that if people do want to go to like the family tree or other venues As long as our schedules work and as long as you are willing to pay for your venue fees and as long as we don't get inundated with requests We will take groups two places like the family tree or other places You just have to reach out and contact us and it just depends on how many people they requires a minimum for us to do that So if you want to go to the family tree, let us know And if you want to just go there and eat you're gonna be perfectly fine. Yeah, you're not gonna get possessed by Satan or Lucy If you just food is really good it is their scones are to die for I don't know everybody here's how their scones They're scones are as big as New Jersey.
Yeah, they're scones like comes at coats The worst part is when they bring scones out like Tim claiming everything you must appear on Actually, I when I did last time over there as I like my hand and then pretended I was gonna put my hand on the scones Yes, that was my way of claiming the scones pretend Yeah, he may have actually like if you go with Tim protect your scone now speak to all of your food really I'm a fat guy True now speaking of investigations now we talked about family tree I'm hoping next time we do this podcast should be immediately after a fair factory So we hope we have some good information on fear factory now I've had some residential investigations and we'll talk about those here in just a minute But let's talk about the state of our looking for investigators I still need to go through my video because there might have been a flashlight that moved on its own is that from family tree? Yeah, I just barely between all the personal problems I've been in the podcast have started I going through my audio I have got like four months audio to catch up on so I'm gonna be interested in see what I find I know we did residential investigation Dien and I in orm Utah that had some Basically object attachments that were negative. I think six or seven EDPs my investigation I haven't listened to mine yet, but I would actually play them tonight But they're like class C EVPs so unless you're sitting down at a computer with good headphones on means I suck Yeah, that was that was an interesting investigation. They're not awesome.
EDPs That was an English talk about that one we can talk about the other two glories We went and we determined With some things going on and with some photos and Brandi's help that there was a Native American there and that there was a Korean woman there And they were both quite chatty what was really fascinating for me with that particular investigation is it's two adults They're both in their early 20s been married for Not terribly long. I don't I hesitate for a number other but a few years maybe They just moved into a trailer Tim did I see your screen me my headphones? Yeah? No, it wasn't me But yeah, there was someone outside probably okay I heard things in the head for all the time that is That's what I hear all the time Brandi's world I want to borrow your Weird thing back the investigation my parabolic microphone.
Yes, I need to find the microphone because I think that would be a lot of fun See if I hear any I would love to hear real time. You'd be pleased Okay, remind me next investigation. We're taking the parable microphone out What is this DM pissed off the not drinking? Yeah, I just we can't get a side track I know I just curious to see how far we could go before piano just pitch a fit make us go back Talk about it.
I'm playing the role of the end today. He thinks back on topic She's my sister. I'm gonna say Vienna's still better looking than this a lot of us were Now I'm pretty sexy. Okay, so we went to this home now Like I said the couple's been married for a few years have a couple little kids They just moved into like a trailer And in this trailer somebody kicked a hole in like there's a hollow cord door in their laundry room and a hole got kicked in the door And it was neither of the two adults who live there But I mean you can clearly see at Tomark where someone like probably an adult male has kicked a hole in the bottom of this door And both adults moving this home swear up and down that they didn't do it And so they're thinking this happened via Panermal stuff going on their house.
They have a little boy who's continually talking to things in his bedroom And their children are quite I mean to an infant right and then the woman who was in the house felt like she's having some pretty serious staredowns Just basically creeped out really bad. So again myself and silent dawn went to the home to investigate We stuck silent on am I hearing kid voices? That's your kids? Are they fighting I can't tell how So We're in the house we're investigating We put silent on the closet because that's what he does we just took some works he doesn't say anything I thought for sure.
Yeah, I would object to me. I'm not silent on So we made our way to do it all the time. Yeah, he actually he actually chats up The homeowners while we're investigating and kind of fills them in the kind of what we're doing and everything Which is actually because I actually did that on this investigation because you guys were actually investigating and I was chatting with the homeowners Parents who showed up so they were totally could have used on in plain city and at the slot whisper That's where I got my nickname. We did use don't the sloppers were how he was there We sent him out to buy spray bottles and he went to like Hours in city where there was like 30 people there and four misigators in hindsight I think I know why he was gone for so long when we're at the slot whisper house I'm going to take a shower and he's trying to suck it stuff up to come back anyway.
Oh, yeah So it's a two just how much is you? Oh, I'm house so as we got investigating is interesting We're using the ghost meter pro which is it's one of those pieces of equipment. I like such a simple piece of equipment People actually use them we were getting pretty good solid yesterday No answers, but it's interesting because you could tell the spirits were using it because it would behave differently based on the spirit We're talking to a Native American male and we would get very clear Yes, no answers on the ghost meter pro and quick You ask a question and boom you'd give the answer and then when we speak with an Asian woman You would ask a question and there would be a definite pause before every answer Okay, I promise not to throw harm in the silencing of the children It's the silence of the children hello Clarice. There's no no no abuse going on here.
Not at all. No abuse So anyway, so we're getting really close or clear answers with the ghost meter pro two for yes one for now If it was the Native American brand is just not her head like a hunch or you were If we were talking with the Asian woman, they'd be really there'd be a distinct pause before each answer Whereas if we're talking to the American I'd be very quick and it took us a while to figure this out actually I mean after a while we thought oh, you know, we started noticing that okay when it's an Native American talking It's fast when it's the Asian lady It's you know a little bit slower and at one point I had asked the Native American a question and we weren't getting a quick answer And I made and I wasn't trying to be an insensitive jerk But I was and I said where'd you go? You know, are you drunk? And I wasn't trying to be a stereotypical jerk you shrunken Just I was trying to be funny and you could immediately fill the energy in the room Change it was fascinating.
It was you could tell that he was pissed off Yeah, I could tell he's pissed off like turned I was like sure like he's mad I could feel he's mad and we asked him and he's like yeah, and we both had to apologize for three ways from Tuesday To get him to cool down and to settle down But it was it's fascinating as well those things where if you don't believe in spirits I wish you could have been there because it was you could feel a palpable change in the energy in the room As we're talking I kind of turned and looked at the room. I said he's pissed I mean it was you could almost taste it. I mean it was thick and then as we got talking We figured out that he was angry about something in the house and as we got talking to the homeowner She told us that she basically she collected artifacts Native American artifacts and As we got talking We actually had her go and get some of these artifacts and we kind of narrowed it down She had some dream catchers and some rattles but she had kind of a club If you're like a stone axe, I don't know what you define that as a tomahawk. Yeah, but it was kind of a blunt Yeah, we can say tomahawk people get the right visual.
Yeah with basically a stone blade But I had like a deer leg handle, but it had all kinds of crazy negative energy coming off of it That we determined was kind of the root of the the haunting there in the home Now it's interesting because our clients parents were there they showed up halfway through the investigation and I said well she's had this for a long time. Why would it suddenly be an issue now that she's moved into this house and You know that and I told us that's a great question and the reason there could be several reasons and sort of having brandy there to translate for us You know my thought as well. It was that before it could have been on display which may have been oh wait Wait, what do you think? I do it could be that where it was that before it was on display and so the spirit that was attached It was okay with that It could be that where it was moved out of that home somewhere else and boxed up that the spirit was not unhappy because it was boxed up there's really any number of reasons why Something like that moved to new location could cause activity to to flare up It could be just as negative energy attached to it when they moved to the new location a Native American spirit wandering through So it was angry about it I mean there's a thousand different explanations of why that may be the interesting thing about that investigation at the end of the night Was as just as I put my own recorder away I began said something to affect that that spirit to the Native American spirit Basically spent most of his time in the bathroom at the home and right as she said that I actually hurt audibly over my left shoulder And I can't remember the exact words at something like that's why I'm here or that's where I am or something along those lines But it was crystal clear right behind me and I turned and one person behind me is Dan clearly is not Dan just to be safe I said we just dinged did you ding that's my phone I see So I kind of turns it and he just whisper she goes no I didn't whisper That's Tim being on my ghost The woman who was in the home also heard the exact same voice as well, which was fascinating now I don't know I don't think I told you this again actually end up going back with brandy boo-lo and we Basically cross the spirits in the home.
The Native American spirit was not there I did however they removed at my suggestion removed the deer leg from the home and actually salted that And we'll talk about the salting stuff with cleansing I think we said we talked about that last podcast we've had some hiccups like I said, so we have kind of lost track of what we said We talked about I just looked it up. We apparently we're gonna talk about type 3s and the cleansing process Okay, so we will do that next time. We'll do that next time But anyway, it was interesting going back and doing a fat we had a residential tonight right before our podcast That was very interesting. There's a couple children spirits there and a male from the 1800 to felt brandy was a witch Yep, that's me.
But he's a witch burner. We found a witch. May we burn, huh? Should we throw a new topic and see if she floats?
It's so polluted everybody will float Hey, don't make fun of you tell like like the fish that you tell like You need to catch them. You're probably right. So I'm eating fish that you tell like it. Did you find blankie?
So many questions something answered Wow We're getting close to calling a night on this particular podcast and we want to talk about our where we're at with our new investigation. Yes, so here's where we're at We have brought on one new investigator is everybody's making two fingers at me. We've brought on two investigators And we're probably gonna be bringing on some more if you did not get interview with us Don't feel bad. We had a ton a literal ton of applications that we received We had to go through and kind of let him down a little bit one stipulation having talked with the pod goblins or the pod bashers or What are we calling ourselves these days?
I think they're the bashers now the bashers one thing they brought up We tried as much as possible We didn't want to how I say this Using the word poach there we go. We didn't want to poach too badly out of their pool of listeners and attendees and so we kind of gave some weighted preference to those who we don't frequently see at The public investigations And like I said given the vast number of applications that we had That was not terribly hard. Although I got to tell you guys and if you're listening to me if you sent this application in I'm sorry, but I make funny because it was a funny application There's a horde a horde of when to goes I fought them off by myself with my friend If you send me an application with weird crap in it, I'm gonna make funny I'm just gonna tell you right now if you tell me your well-burnt terminology because you and your buddy fought off an entire horde of When to go that's your care. Yeah, I'm gonna make funny on the podcast.
There's there's just no way around that I'm sorry, so if you're a listener, I love you, but yeah, you're insane mental help also We require that you have you know reliable transportation. Yes, I've gotten a few applications without reliable transportation And I'm not picking you up to take you to investigations So that's kind of one of those must-have things if we're gonna consider you as the reliable transportation when I see no reliable transportation I am kind of probably gonna pass over your application. I'm just gonna put that out there But if you don't have reliable transportation you hit yes, and you're still calling me for rights to stuff or we're gonna have an issue I'll give you a ride. There's gonna be trade-off though.
I'm gonna say with him it might be a mustache ride So we know what that Tracks ETA bus but at this point we have brought Chris. We know Chris is last name you guys a mechris I'm not Chris Harley Harley Chris Harley. We have brought on Chris Harley And he is our resident wickin expert at this point and that's one of the reasons why I brought Chris on He says that Chris is a phenomenal guy as I understand it. I've never met him You know, I was a little nervous to be honest with you He probably won't listen to this but yeah I was a little nervous just cuz I'm not familiar with the whole wickin thing and after listening to him talking about what he's capable of doing I feel really comfortable with him being a part of our team How does he do with our hordes of when to go?
Well, he doesn't fight mythological creatures So no, it just just you know, he passed Randy's test more Yes I tested him on his knowledge of wickin and a lot of you don't know But I did practice wickin for a few years of my life So he's pretty legit Okay, and that was kind of that was a nice addition for us just because the more we've run into some wickin curses and some other things And so it's nice to have a little bit of diversity diversity in a knowledge base there He can also help us refine our cleansing process He's actually told us there's some stuff that we probably overdue and don't need to do so And some stuff we underdo they can give us more insight on the project process and I'm a 100% Okay, now the other investigator we brought on and this is at the ends insistence because she threatened to tell us all with an I you know, Castle has this flair for the dramatic. I think he went back back and we get on awesome I hate you so bad right now My friend It was an I promise no, but we brought on alica alica rose And so those are two of our newer investigators like I said, we're still taking his mother So don't be discouraged if you hear this But there are really a lot of applications so we've had to kind of go through and vet some of them and we are trying not to Pouch too badly Pod bash tick holders because trying to threaten to kick me in the paint Yes, we do love you, but I don't get kicked in the paint So we are trying not to poach too many tick holders But that process is ongoing and again, we still have our contest going on Is there anything else we need to cover before we call it again? No, I think we got I think we did all of our covering stuff at the start Okay, everyone's gonna check in and listen to this and think they caught the end of it Right and for those of you who think you're gonna see me at the fear of factory location. I have not Said yes or no to that.
I'm fascinated to see what happens there As far as whether brandy makes it or not in fact if we had more time This would be worth a contest Whether she will or won't because she swore up and down that I couldn't get a entire team of wild horses to drag her in a fear Factory and now she's kind of wavering a little bit And so we will see we will see we will see but fear factories a fun place to best get back in there Sure, yes dark, but it's fun. It's not an I are going to wait this one out. You're not going to their factory. No So I think it'll probably be me lurch Kim Like I'm waiting cuz he's my chauffeur So I usually have to get her permission to go to dark places like this.
Hey, I'm not young mother you can do what you want We'll keep Tim safe. So it regardless. It'll be fun. Don't forget get all your friends to like our page We would really like to give away Tim's take to a sound It's the easiest way to get your friends to like the pages when you go to our page and you click the down arrow next to like There's a tab is invite friends go to that and just go down your list of friends and invite everybody Yeah, even people you don't think would be interested because I invite people I think would be interested and I was surprised that they went in the same here on the bright side of you guys if we don't get two thousand likes and there's lessons The chance that Tim's gonna p on my K2 sound and I'm gonna have to Did you get one for you to I know I didn't get one for you to I got one for myself The band can go get their own they're rich.
So you got your own K2 sound and want to give away. Yes, I do Awesome, that's what I'd like to hear we should hopefully be back in two weeks I think we've got a lot of our technical which has worked out and this podcast will air before we record the next one and The podcast will hopefully air by Wednesday because I am now in a spot where it's easy to edit it and fix it and all that kind of stuff And just remember to send it so we can listen to it in time. Oh, it will be sent. It will be out by Wednesday So go get your tickets for fear factory.
We will see you guys there Keep on keep checking back on the main page. I will have the times that we'll meet there I should find out from lurch here within the next 24 hours what time we meet and other than that have a good night Good night, okay, all right? Click the button click it You're listening to the Wisps was that you investigative studies for paranormal science They're grown as adults to like to sit in the dark and talk to each other, but they all love their moms So that should account for something