Episode 230 - This Piano App Will Change Music Lessons Forever! 🎶 | Clefer Founders

What if practicing piano actually became FUN—and you got real feedback between lessons? 🎹✨In this episode of And If Love Remains, host Mike Leavitt sits down with Frits & Victoria van Laarhoven, the visionary husband-and-wife duo behind Clefer, the groundbreaking app revolutionizing piano education.They share their journey of 8 years building Clefer, their recent showcase at NCKP Chicago, and why major institutions like Steinway are paying attention. More than just an app, Clefer is designed to empower teachers, motivate students, and preserve the soul of music in a tech-driven world.🚀 Whether you’re a piano teacher, student, or music lover, this episode will inspire you to “fall deeper in love with the piano.”00:00 – Intro: Welcome back Frits & Victoria!02:15 – Why technology scares (and excites) music teachers05:48 – Launching Clefer after 8 years of development10:22 – NCKP Chicago showcase + across from Steinway booth15:40 – Victoria’s piano lessons and testing the app21:05 – How Clefer bridges the gap between lessons28:33 – The fear of AI vs. the value of real teachers36:00 – Clefer’s acoustic + MIDI capabilities41:18 – What makes Clefer different: real coaching, not just red/green notes49:20 – Teacher reactions + Steinway’s interest54:15 – Upcoming Steinway Scottsdale event (October)59:10 – Expanding repertoire, licensing songs, & quality standards1:08:12 – Keeping students motivated with real music they love1:15:47 – New features: teacher module, scales, arpeggios, and more1:23:05 – Free premium access for teachers 🎁1:28:44 – Apple iOS 26 “Liquid Glass” compatibility update1:35:00 – Victoria’s philosophy: compete with yourself, not others1:40:00 – Closing thoughts: Music gives us a voice when we feel voiceless 🎶🌐 Clefer Website: https://www.clefer.com📱 Download Clefer on the App Store / Google Play🎹 Follow Clefer on Instagram: @cleferapp🎼 Steinway & Sons: https://www.steinway.com🎧 Subscribe to And If Love Remains: [Podcast Link]#Piano #MusicEducation #Clefer #EdTech #MusicTeachers #Steinway #AndIfLoveRemains #MikeLeavittPodcast #PianoLessons #MusicApp⏱️ Timestamps🔗 Links Mentioned🏷️ Hashtags