Episode 237: Billionaire Boycott List, with Ariel of Cobbled Goods episode artwork

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Episode 237: Billionaire Boycott List, with Ariel of Cobbled Goods

from Clotheshorse with Amanda Lee McCarty · host Amanda Lee McCarty

Would you be surprised to hear that your favorite shoe brand is neither family-owned nor as punk as it portrays itself to be?Did you know that wealth inequality and shoes are directly connected? Could your latest shoe purchase be subsidizing lobbying efforts to fight a rise in the minimum wage or reduce taxes for the wealthiest people?Amanda is joined by Ariel, the founder of Cobbled Goods to talk about how shoes, wealth inequality, and politics are entangled.  He will introduce us to his Billionaire Boycott List.  In this episode, we will also cover the following topics:The environmental and ethical impacts of shoe productionCommon greenwashing tropes used by the shoe industryWho really owns a lot of the shoe companies that we might think of "heritage" brands or "countercultural"How you can make better decisions when shopping for a new pair of shoesAnd how where, when, and how often you shop are political decisions!And guess what? Ariel has a reading list for you:Wealth Supremacy: How the Extractive Economy and the Biased Rules of Capitalism Drive Today’s CrisesOne of my favourite books, written by Marjorie Kelly. She really has her finger on the heart of the issue. I’d recommend listeners start by checking out her podcast interviews. I also have to add my first encounter with her work, which rocked my world — The Architecture of Enterprise: Redesigning Ownership for a Great Transition.Foot Work: What Your Shoes Tell You About GlobalisationAn incredible first-person look into shoe production around the world. Tansy Hoskins also has a great newsletter.Imagining a Decentralised Footwear Industry at the Global Fashioning AssemblyI didn’t mention this but I hosted a speculative fiction workshop last fall with Tansy and few other footwear founders where everyone shared their ideas on what the industry would look like in a world with big businesses. It ties in nicely with our conversation and the boycott list.Dispatches: The truth about Nike and AdidasThe Channel 4 investigation into recycled ocean plastic. I actually confused Nike and Adidas on the episode. Both brands are covered but the ocean plastic bit was about Adidas. The original broadcast is not available on demand: But there is an article with part of the video here: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10821693/Channel-4s-Dispatches-reveals-greenwashing-trainer-brands.html License to Greenwash: How certification schemes and voluntary initiatives are fueling fossil fashionA very compelling report on greenwashing through certifications and standards. I alluded to it a bit with the HIGG index, but I meant to dive deeper because it is highly prevalent.Money Heist: COVID-19 Wage Theft in Global Garment Supply ChainsA report on how big brands dodge accountability to the workers making their products. It gives estimates on how many millions of dollars different brands owe the workers that were laid off without severance due to their cancelled orders during Covid.Nowhere to Hide: How the Fashion Industry Is Linked to Amazon Rainforest DestructionA thorough report mapping out leather supply chains connected to Amazon deforestation.ALSO: get your tickets for Clotheshorse LIVE!10/23  Seattle, WA @ Here-After10/26  Portland, OR @ HoloceneGet your Clotheshorse merch here: https://clotheshorsepodcast.com/shop/If you want to share your opinion/additional thoughts on the subjects we cover in each episode, feel free to email, whether it’s a typed out message or an audio recording:  [email protected] you enjoy this episode? Consider "buying me a coffee" via Ko-fi: ko-fi.com/clotheshorseClotheshorse is brought to you with support from the following sustainable small businesses:Slow Fashion Academy is a size-inclusive sewing and patternmaking studio based in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Designer and fashion professor Ruby Gertz teaches workshops for hobbyists and aspiring designers, so that anyone can learn the foundational skills of making, mending, and altering their own clothes. Ruby also provides professional design and patternmaking services to emerging slow fashion brands, and occasionally takes commissions for custom garments and costume pieces. She has also released several PDF sewing patterns for original designs under her brands Spokes & Stitches, and Starling Petite Plus. Check the schedule for upcoming workshops, download PDF sewing patterns, and learn about additional sewing and design services at www.slowfashion.academy.The Pewter Thimble Is there a little bit of Italy in your soul? Are you an enthusiast of pre-loved decor and accessories? Bring vintage Italian style — and history — into your space with The Pewter Thimble (@thepewterthimble). We source useful and beautiful things, and mend them where needed. We also find gorgeous illustrations, and make them print-worthy. Tarot cards, tea towels and handpicked treasures, available to you from the comfort of your own home. Responsibly sourced from across Rome, lovingly renewed by fairly paid artists and artisans, with something for every budget. Discover more at thepewterthimble.comSt. Evens is an NYC-based vintage s...

Would you be surprised to hear that your favorite shoe brand is neither family-owned nor as punk as it portrays itself to be?Did you know that wealth inequality and shoes are directly connected? Could your latest shoe purchase be subsidizing lobbying efforts to fight a rise in the minimum wage or reduce taxes for the wealthiest people?Amanda is joined by Ariel, the founder of Cobbled Goods to talk about how shoes, wealth inequality, and politics are entangled.  He will introduce us to his Billionaire Boycott List.  In this episode, we will also cover the following topics:The environmental and ethical impacts of shoe productionCommon greenwashing tropes used by the shoe industryWho really owns a lot of the shoe companies that we might think of "heritage" brands or "countercultural"How you can make better decisions when shopping for a new pair of shoesAnd how where, when, and how often you shop are political decisions!And guess what? Ariel has a reading list for you:Wealth Supremacy: How the Extractive Economy and the Biased Rules of Capitalism Drive Today’s CrisesOne of my favourite books, written by Marjorie Kelly. She really has her finger on the heart of the issue. I’d recommend listeners start by checking out her podcast interviews. I also have to add my first encounter with her work, which rocked my world — The Architecture of Enterprise: Redesigning Ownership for a Great Transition.Foot Work: What Your Shoes Tell You About GlobalisationAn incredible first-person look into shoe production around the world. Tansy Hoskins also has a great newsletter.Imagining a Decentralised Footwear Industry at the Global Fashioning AssemblyI didn’t mention this but I hosted a speculative fiction workshop last fall with Tansy and few other footwear founders where everyone shared their ideas on what the industry would look like in a world with big businesses. It ties in nicely with our conversation and the boycott list.Dispatches: The truth about Nike and AdidasThe Channel 4 investigation into recycled ocean plastic. I actually confused Nike and Adidas on the episode. Both brands are covered but the ocean plastic bit was about Adidas. The original broadcast is not available on demand: But there is an article with part of the video here: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10821693/Channel-4s-Dispatches-reveals-greenwashing-trainer-brands.html License to Greenwash: How certification schemes and voluntary initiatives are fueling fossil fashionA very compelling report on greenwashing through certifications and standards. I alluded to it a bit with the HIGG index, but I meant to dive deeper because it is highly prevalent.Money Heist: COVID-19 Wage Theft in Global Garment Supply ChainsA report on how big brands dodge accountability to the workers making their products. It gives estimates on how many millions of dollars different brands owe the workers that were laid off without severance due to their cancelled orders during Covid.Nowhere to Hide: How the Fashion Industry Is Linked to Amazon Rainforest DestructionA thorough report mapping out leather supply chains connected to Amazon deforestation.ALSO: get your tickets for Clotheshorse LIVE!10/23  Seattle, WA @ Here-After10/26  Portland, OR @ HoloceneGet your Clotheshorse merch here: https://clotheshorsepodcast.com/shop/If you want to share your opinion/additional thoughts on the subjects we cover in each episode, feel free to email, whether it’s a typed out message or an audio recording:  [email protected] you enjoy this episode? Consider "buying me a coffee" via Ko-fi: ko-fi.com/clotheshorseClotheshorse is brought to you with support from the following sustainable small businesses:Slow Fashion Academy is a size-inclusive sewing and patternmaking studio based in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Designer and fashion professor Ruby Gertz teaches workshops for hobbyists and aspiring designers, so that anyone can learn the foundational skills of making, mending, and altering their own clothes. Ruby also provides professional design and patternmaking services to emerging slow fashion brands, and occasionally takes commissions for custom garments and costume pieces. She has also released several PDF sewing patterns for original designs under her brands Spokes & Stitches, and Starling Petite Plus. Check the schedule for upcoming workshops, download PDF sewing patterns, and learn about additional sewing and design services at www.slowfashion.academy.The Pewter Thimble Is there a little bit of Italy in your soul? Are you an enthusiast of pre-loved decor and accessories? Bring vintage Italian style — and history — into your space with The Pewter Thimble (@thepewterthimble). We source useful and beautiful things, and mend them where needed. We also find gorgeous illustrations, and make them print-worthy. Tarot cards, tea towels and handpicked treasures, available to you from the comfort of your own home. Responsibly sourced from across Rome, lovingly renewed by fairly paid artists and artisans, with something for every budget. Discover more at thepewterthimble.comSt. Evens is an NYC-based vintage s...

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