Episode 261: Motivational Interviewing For Behaviour Analysts with Dr. Monica Gilbert

In this episode of Behaviour Speak, Ben sits down with Dr. Monica Gilbert to unpack what’s often missing in behaviour analysis: true engagement. While clinicians are trained in evidence-based interventions, many still struggle with caregiver buy-in, staff engagement, and sustained change. Dr. Gilbert argues the issue isn’t the science—it’s the conversation. Drawing from her work in clinical psychology and behaviour analysis, she introduces motivational interviewing (MI) as more than a technique—it’s a way of being. From understanding ambivalence to aligning with a client’s stage of change, this conversation challenges the compliance mindset and replaces it with collaboration, autonomy, and meaningful partnership. If you’ve ever felt like your interventions “should work” but aren’t landing—this episode is your missing piece. Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/Tqu1-iFtMws This episode is presented by our founding academic partner, the Doctor of Education in the field of Applied Behaviour Analysis program at Western University’s Faculty of Education.  Program Information: https://www.edu.uwo.ca/graduate-education/edd/applied-behaviour-analysis.html How to apply: https://www.edu.uwo.ca/graduate-education/apply.html Program brochure: https://www.edu.uwo.ca/graduate-education/edd/foe120_edd_aba_r1.png Continuing Education Credits (https://www.cbiconsultants.com/shop) BACB: 1.0 Learning IBAO:  1.0 ABA Topics QABA: 1.0 General CBA/CPD: 1.0 Learning   Follow us! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/behaviourspeak/ LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/behaviourspeak/ TikTok:  https://www.tiktok.com/@behaviorspeak   Contact Dr. Gilbert https://drmonicagilbert.com/ Crystal Minds Psychological Services https://cmpstherapy.com/owner-profile   Links: MI For Change Podcast https://open.spotify.com/show/1RFSGrj1w5MPjTQpEN4Vi5?si=159a5e5e7c8b4855' How to Stop Talking and Start Communicating with Motivational Interviewing: Building Effective Partnerships with Caregivers: A Practical Guide for Behavior Therapists By Dr. Monica Gilbert https://a.co/d/0h6wOGcn MINT: https://motivationalinterviewing.org/   Article on The Transtheoretical Model:  Prochaska, J. O., & Velicer, W. F. (1997). The transtheoretical model of health behavior change. American journal of health promotion : AJHP, 12(1), 38–48. https://doi.org/10.4278/0890-1171-12.1.38 For more conversations on approaches towards buy-in and collaboration check out these two episodes: Episode 71: The Magic Of The ACT Matrix https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-71-the-magic-of-the-act-matrix-with-mary-penrice-edmondson-ms-bcba-tina-long-med-bcba-and-monica-peters-mads-bcba/ Episode 20:  Consulting in Group Homes Using ACT https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-20-consulting-in-group-homes-using-act-with-monica-peters-mads-bcba/