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EPISODE · Jun 13, 2025 · 52 MIN

Episode 268 Cultivating the Relationship You Desire with Lionel Moses

from Relationships & Revenue Podcast · host John Hulen

John talks with Lionel Moses — a U.S. Navy veteran, former tax accountant, entrepreneur, business coach, speaker, author of The Marriage Seed: How to Cultivate the Relationship You Desire and Deserve, and dad. Lionel talks about his journey from military service to business coaching, relationships, and the real story behind his book The Marriage Seed. Listen to this episode to learn more: [00:00] - Intro [00:24] - Lionel's background and bio [02:00] - Why relationships matter [05:29] - Paying attention to your emotions [06:30] - Lionel's journey from the Navy to business owner [09:00] - John's first business [11:53] - Seeing tangible results in your work [14:36] - Lionel's book The Marriage Seed [17:11] - Update on John's book, The F6 Secrets of Relationships [19:41] - How personal life affects work [24:10] - What Lionel worked on after his divorce [27:34] - Do not say sorry unless you really mean it [30:36] - Talking to kids about divorce [33:33] - How do I know my purpose? [36:09] - The 3 C's and 3 I's approach [38:23] - Role of faith in Lionel's life and business [41:04] - Learning to love yourself and how that affects your relationships [45:22] - Lionel's definition of success [45:47] - Lionel's top three habits [46:30] - Traits of a great leader [47:21] - Legacy that Lionel wants to leave behind [49:39] - How Lionel invests in his personal growth [51:24] - Best way to reach out to Lionel [53:04] - Book recommendations [53:42] - Closing remarks NOTABLE QUOTES: "Your feelings are indicators. They're not dictators." "Just establish a rapport with everyone, and everyone benefits. I'll get the cake, but they get their dishwasher for them, whatever it takes." "If you want to be great in life and great in business, it's all about relationships." "If you want to get great in business, it actually begins at home, because if you're not doing well at home, it will impact your business." "If you don't win at home, you're not going to win anywhere." "If all you work for is a paycheck, then you're cheating yourself." "If you truly want to discover your purpose, you're going to have to go through the worst pain you have ever felt in your entire life. And you're not going to be able to numb it, you're not going to be able to ignore it, and you're not going to be able to bypass it. You're gonna have to work through it — because purpose is on the other side of pain." "Pain leads to purpose, which leads to platform. And I think that's the problem — a lot of us try to skip that one step, the first one: the pain." "You have to put in the effort. A farmer does not go out in the field in the middle of spring looking for a plant that he did not plant. He's gonna work the ground. The same goes for relationships. There are certain things you have to work on. There's going to be dirt. It's not always going to be clean. It's not always going to be pretty." "Most people are taught how to interact with others in school and in their family relationships — but you don't learn how to treat yourself?" BOOK MENTIONED: Relational Intelligence: The People Skills You Need for the Life of Purpose You Want by Dr. Dharius Daniels (https://a.co/d/7AsjRD0) USEFUL RESOURCES: https://www.lionelmoses.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/lionel-moses-tax/ https://www.instagram.com/lmoses0125/ https://www.facebook.com/lionel.moses2 https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100068053150680 https://x.com/LionkingNJ https://www.youtube.com/@lionelmoses9334 The Marriage Seed: How to Cultivate the Relationship You Desire and Deserve (https://a.co/d/gBxUTOX) CONNECT WITH JOHN Website - https://iamjohnhulen.com    Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/johnhulen    Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/johnhulen    X - https://x.com/johnhulen    LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhulen    YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLX_NchE8lisC4NL2GciIWA    EPISODE CREDITS Intro and Outro music provided by Jeff Scheetz - https://jeffscheetz.com/ 

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