Episode 268 – Mold+Lyme+Genetics: The Root Cause Most Doctors Miss

Dr. Deb Muth 00:00:09Hi there, how are you?Bob Miller 00:00:10Excellent! Pedaling as fast as humanly possible, but doing okay.Dr. Deb Muth 00:00:14Good, good. Well, I'm looking forward to our conversation today. This should be amazing.Bob Miller 00:00:20Yeah, it should be a lot of fun.Dr. Deb Muth 00:00:22Yeah, anything that's off-limits for you in, our conversation?Bob Miller 00:00:28No.Dr. Deb Muth 00:00:29Okay, anything you want me to make sure we cover for you?Bob Miller 00:00:33Well, I mean, is it okay if we put a little plug-in for our software?Dr. Deb Muth 00:00:35Absolutely.Bob Miller 00:00:36Yeah.Dr. Deb Muth 00:00:37Absolutely. Bob Miller 00:00:36Yeah.Dr. Deb Muth 00:00:37Absolutely.Bob Miller 00:00:38Hey, can we… can we do a screen share? Yes, we can. Yeah, because I want to show you some maps, and…Dr. Deb Muth 00:00:43Okay. Things like that, yeah, so… Perfect. So just let me know when you want to do screen share.Bob Miller 00:00:48Okay.Dr. Deb Muth 00:00:49And yeah, feel free to plug your software wherever you want to.Bob Miller 00:00:53Okay, well, good. Let me pull up a, a slide for that, and give me one second, I just want to shut the door to my office to get the noise down.Dr. Deb Muth 00:01:01No worries.Bob Miller 00:01:16And, how should I refer to you? Dr. Debb? Dr. Muth, what do you like?Dr. Deb Muth 00:01:18Dr. Deb is great, or Deb, either way, I'm pretty informal, so…Bob Miller 00:01:22Yeah, and… Bob is fine for me. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, there you go. Why people feel like they need this, son. Special name, it's like, seriously.Dr. Deb Muth 00:01:33Right? I agree.Bob Miller 00:01:35When I work with my clients, it's like, Dr. Millison, just, just bop, just, just bop.Dr. Deb Muth 00:01:41Yep, that's how I am, too. Just call me Deb, it's good.Dr. Deb Muth 00:01:44They feel a little awkward with that, you know? They're not used to that, but…Bob Miller 00:01:48Alright. And you're a naturopath, medical doctor.Dr. Deb Muth 00:01:52A nastropathic doctor and a nurse practitioner. Oh, nice. Yeah, so I got the best of both worlds, right?Bob Miller 00:01:58Yeah, damn. Okay. Alright, so here we go… There we go. Alright, so I got that ready, and then I will do a, I will do a screen share. I think you're gonna really, appreciate what we've come up with. We've come up with the concept of, Cellular CPR.Dr. Deb Muth 00:02:23Oh, nice!Bob Miller 00:02:24And that is, construct the cell membrane, Protect the cell membrane. And restore it if it's damaged.Dr. Deb Muth 00:02:32Love that.Bob Miller 00:02:34I love that. Yeah, so that's what we're focusing on, and then how, You know, we want to get to the point that, you know, most people think of genetics, they think of, like, 23andMe or Ancestry.Dr. Deb Muth 00:02:44Yeah.Bob Miller 00:02:45And then you have the professional geneticists who are looking at, you know, odd things that could create a disease. We're looking at functional genomics.Dr. Deb Muth 00:02:54Which is so much better.Bob Miller 00:02:56Yeah. Are you familiar with what we do here, or…Dr. Deb Muth 00:02:58A little bit, a little bit. So, it'll be new to me, too, so I'm excited.Bob Miller 00:03:03And how much time do we have?Dr. Deb Muth 00:03:04 We have an hour, give or take a little bit on either side. Do you have a hard stop anywhere?Bob Miller 00:03:10No, no, I put a, I moved my clients around, and I don't have anybody till,3.30, so we're good. Okay.Dr. Deb Muth 00:03:16 Perfect. Alright.Bob Miller 00:03:18It's like we're getting started early as well, so…Dr. Deb Muth 00:03:19Yeah, we're getting started a little bit early, so that's good.Bob Miller 00:03:22Yeah, I just got my office cleaned up, so…Dr. Deb Muth 00:03:23Okay, good. All right, are you all set to get started?Bob Miller 00:03:28I'm good to go, my friend.Dr. Deb Muth 00:03:29I'm gonna just record a little intro and a little bit of a, hook for people, and then we'll get started. I'll ask you to kind of tell us a little bit about yourself, and then we'll just take this conversation wherever it's supposed to go.Bob Miller 00:03:39Okay, you got it.Dr. Deb Muth 00:03:40Alright, sounds good. So what if the reason you're not healing isn't your diet, your supplements, or your labs, but it's actually your genes? Dr. Bob Miller is uncovering how genetic variants, when combined with modern toxins, explain why some of us stay sick no matter what we try. Today, we're talking genetic pathways, detox blocks, and the new science every wellness warrior needs to know. Welcome back to Let's Talk Wellness Now, the show where we uncover the root causes of chronic illness, exploring cutting-edge regenerative medicine, and empower you to heal from the inside out. I'm Dr. Deb, your medical detective, and today, our guest, Dr. Bob Miller, is a true pioneer in functional genomics. He's a board-certified traditional naturopath and the founder of Neutrogenetic Research Institute. And he's the leading groundbreaking research on how genetic variants influence chronic illness, inflammation, and detoxification. His work has been recognized on international stages, uncovering links between genetic expression and conditions like Lyme disease, mast cell activation, or MCAS, and mitochondrial dysfunction. I'm so excited to talk to Dr. Bob today. He is gonna reveal some things that even I don't know about, so I'm excited to learn alongside of you guys. So…Dr. Bob, let's get started. Tell us a little bit about yourself, and kind of how you got on this journey.Bob Miller 00:05:04Well, that's, that's interesting. I was sort of like a mid-career coming to the natural health field, because in my early 30s, I found myself with a severe case of ulcerative colitis.Bob Miller 00:05:15And I was in the hospital for 21 days. probably within hours of death, pleading to death. And they told me I've got one option, and that is cut out the colon and wear a bag. Didn't sound like a lot of fun.Dr. Deb Muth 00:05:27Not an option I would want.Bob Miller 00:05:29So, you know, the medical folks wasn't real happy with me, but I said, yeah, I'd like to explore some alternative things.Never thinking that I'd get into this field, and then I just, you know, worked with some herbalists and things that I found absolutely fascinating. So, that's how I got into this around 30 years ago. And, haven't looked back since, and just having a… having a blast as we now move into how our genetics impacts things. So, that's what we're gonna… that's what we're gonna talk about today.Dr. Deb Muth 00:05:58I'm excited to talk about this genetic thing. When you started over 30 years ago, what kind of patience and problems first inspired you to dig deeper into that root cause healing and kind of get into the genetic piece of it?Bob Miller 00:06:10Sure. Well, you know, as a… now, I'm in a part of the country called Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, where there's a lot of Amish and Mennonite, and they gravitate towards these things.So, this is their first thing to do, and that doesn't work, then they'll go other routes. So, you know, back then, we just saw typical, you know, a little tired, constipation.You know, a little bit of fatigue, arthritis, those kind of things. But things have changed dramatically over the years, as people are now getting more chronically sick. You know, it's worse than it's ever been. And what we're finding is the, the culpritsPrimarily is mold exposure and Lyme disease.When people get those two together, they're just… it's an inflammatory cascade that nobody can seem to unravel. So that's where we spend a lot of our time. And we're also spending a lot of time looking at mental health, like ADD, ADHD. And, we give… this year I'll be speaking at three autism conferences. And we can dig into that a little bit as to why we think we're seeing such a dramatic increase. And aside from autism, that used to be 1 out of 1,000, now it's 1 out of 33, or 23. You know, we're also seeing dramatic increases in ADD, ADHD. People are stressed out. And today, I think we'll have the time to actually go through and show how environmental factors combine with genetics to cause that to happen. So we'll… we should have a fun visit here today. And today, I think we'll have the time to actually go through and show how environmental factors combine with genetics to cause that to happen. So we'll… we should have a fun visit here today.Dr. Deb Muth 00:07:37This should be a fun visit. We can cover lots of topics. I am so excited. So, you founded Nutri Genetic Research Institute in 2015. What did you hope to accomplish, and what kind of surprised you in your findings so far about that?Bob Miller 00:07:51Well, you know, let's back up at what, you know, genetics is used for. Everybody's familiar wi...