Episode 289 - Getting REAL About Leadership with Jodee

In today's episode I share some ideas from books I'm reading right now, and I apply what I'm learning about leadership to current day affairs. Against advice from many, I talk today about politics, but not from a political lens, rather from a leadership one. I refer specifically to passages from Richard Rohr's "Falling Upward," and Bob Chapman's "Everybody Matters." Leadership is not management, although both are needed to run successful organizations, from business to religion to education to government. If we all understood that leading is a sacred assignment, and we truly treated humans as humans, no matter their political or religious or educational or business affilitations, wouldn't the world be a better place?

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