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EPISODE · Dec 25, 2025 · 1H 35M

Episode 29: Shen Dao on Law

from This Is The Way: Chinese Philosophy Podcast · host Richard Kim and Justin Tiwald

Early in Chinese history, a number of political thinkers developed sophisticated arguments for relying on consistent application of laws rather than the personal discretion of political authorities to govern the state. In this episode, we explore the arguments of one of the early pioneers of this way of thinking, Shen Dao  慎到  (c. 350-275 BCE). We are joined by a leading expert on Shen Dao and Chinese Legalism, Eirik Lang Harris.Want to skip to the episode's primary philosophical issue? Go to7:39: Preface on Chinese Legalism, or15:13: Part II: Shen Dao on LawMany thanks to The Hong Kong Ethics Lab for sponsoring this podcast series.Want to continue the discussion? Need links to some of the sources mentioned? Go to the support page for this episode on Warp, Weft, and Way.We thank Lena Li (LI La 李拉) for her expert editing and sound engineering. We also thank the blog Warp, Weft & Way for hosting the discussion for this episode.Co-hosts:Richard Kim's websiteJustin Tiwald's website

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