And welcome to appointment television, our podcast about the TV, you one night type four, I'm Margaret and with VR, I'm Catherine. I'm Andrew. And this week we are going to be opening up with a rare thing, us fulfilling one of our patreon responsibilities, which is Catherine providing recommendations for one of our patreon supporters. And Andrew and I are throwing in our two cents occasionally adjusted for inflation.
And then we are going to be talking about the devastatingly good Australian children's show, Bluey, that performed like a really intense emotional assault on me earlier today. Great. Yeah. I want to jump off with this patreon by saying that this is somebody who came and found me on Twitter and said, Hey, when do I get my patreon dig?
And I said, now, and if this is also you, please ping me there. Sadly, that is where my brain worms live. They are strongly invested. Honestly, if you, if you at the ATV account or DM us, that's probably going to be the most reliable way to get your patreon reward if you're still waiting for something.
Please, please. Because we've all got a lot going on as I think we've mentioned. Yeah. So this is from a listener whose name is Anna.
Oh, Abby. Sorry. Abby. Her at is donut darlin, which I could go for a donut right now.
I'm pretty sure Abby is a baker and sent me cookies this summer and that they are pretty dope and then she has a bakery in Nashville. I should look all of this up. It might be Memphis. And honestly, this could be a totally different person.
You got your first shot, didn't you? Yeah. So go to go. You can get the fucking donut.
I had to drive on Route 22 and you have a weird, weird, you turn. You have to do a weird, dangerous, you turn. You are in spitting distance of a Krispy Kreme. The closest one to me is across state lines in a casino.
Well, because I think that weird, you turn. Donut and lobby to make them like illegal in Massachusetts. Big dunk in really. Not wanted to know what a good donut tastes like.
I want to get my Krispy Kreme, my vaccine Krispy Kreme from the basement of Penn Station, like God intended. Like I feel like that's a beauty. That's a beauty. How can we take Henry to see my parents in Ohio, we might go to the Columbus one and get our vaccine donuts?
We'll see. Anyhow, Abby writes that she is a pretty avid TV watcher and she's seen a lot of the big things but and I'm bringing this to the podcast because I know Margaret will have many thoughts. She's always in the market for a cozy mystery. Yes, she loves a crime solving.
Picker, your father's brown, your grants, Chester, etc. She's also actively in the market for mysteries featuring people of color and non-white protagonists. So, you know, one thing that I wanted to say in case that this had missed your radar is that I wrote a list earlier this year of TV procedurals that don't primarily feature cops. And that there's a pretty significant overlap between the like cozy genre and whether or and like the absence of police, which is something that feels not coincidental.
What are you saying about our boys in blue, Catherine? I'm saying that maybe they should stop killing people. It's going to last so you don't fucking punch stuff. Yep.
Yep. And so that list is on vulture.com. It is called 21 TV procedurals to watch the run about police. And it has some stuff in there that like I think if there is anything on that list that appeals to you or that you haven't seen, it sort of would fit the bill.
The one that we I believe we have mentioned at some point on the podcast, but I just always want to be like waving flags for is number one ladies detective agency. It's all good. It's all good. It's so fantastic.
It is a little scene because it's sort of, you know, it was a one season thing and HBO doesn't really know what to do with it now, but it is streaming on HBO Max and it fits this bill just perfectly. So that would really be my top of mind thought. These also feels like a like a pushing daisies thing. If you are a baker who lives in Memphis, I don't know why it just feels like you've probably already seen pushing daisies.
But like rewatching it is never a bad decision. I honestly think it's old enough that you can't make that assumption of a lot of people. I've got to imagine that the like mid to late 2000s TV CGI looks absolutely dog show awful now, but you know what I could show. Don't hold that against it.
Yeah, don't do it. I'm trying to think if there's anything else more recently that has really been a lot of really good to me. We've stuck the braces of Stumptown. Yep.
That is on this list as well. Talk about that church a long time ago. Not cozy, but it is good. The first season is good.
It is. Yeah. Scarlett and the Duke we recommend. Oh, that's a recent guy.
That one's pretty good. But my feeling about it is like that one's pretty good. Like that's kind of how much I'm willing to put into that one at the moment. I think it needs to take another step up.
And I guess the only other thing that is really striking me would be the recent, the like the one that is out right now, which is not cozy, but I'm nevertheless going to mention is the new HBO show, Mer of Easttown in which Kate Winslet plays somebody who has a police detective who has to say, Wawa and woulder, woulder. And she almost gets there. The interesting thing about that show, for me, it is not cozy and it is a little, it is, there's a lot of tension. I don't think the name is good.
I'm just going to come out and say I don't think the name is good. The name is good. Merivies town. No, it's not good.
Okay. I support that. Yeah. Do you want to like give me no it's like it's like mythic Raven banquet quest.
Like it's a bunch of weird words that they just threw together into a title and you will always know it when you hear it. But if you're trying to remember what it is, you'll just you'll remember that it's a name and it's a town and you won't remember either of the things. The name is too specific as a word that doesn't immediately strike you as a name. Yeah.
The name is too generic in the way that is like a town that like somebody made up out of nowhere. Yeah. And it's a show that raises the question, why isn't this a horse, why is it a horse detective? Yes.
Give me a mayor of east town, please. Yeah. Anyhow, Jean's part of the show, which is a juice box while sitting on a park bench and single handedly ups the cozy quotient in her ability to do that as well as very aggressively play fruit ninja on her iPad in the background of scenes. So that is my final thought.
I hope that some of those were new to you. If not, right back in, we'll dip into that barrel again. It is worth noting that Acorn TV, that streaming platform has a category that is literally cozy mysteries. And it includes the one that I haven't actually watched yet, but really what's like high on the list of things I would watch if I watched television, like someone who hosts a TV podcast might be expected to.
And it is the Agatha Raisin mysteries. And it is starring, I believe the actress who's named Ashley Jensen. I'm correct, Ashley Jensen, who was the non-vricaged your face half of extras or more than what you need to meet, the insufferable Irish friend of Sharon on catastrophe. She's a great actress.
She's a great actress. So that is an actress who's got charisma, which she's got a big presence. To take a character that annoying and awful and give her something that not everybody can do. It's very impressive.
So this is a series about a fancy London events planner who retires to one of those murder ridden small English villages and becomes an amateur detective played again by Ashley Jensen. That's probably a great show. I just feel like that's a good pick. That's a good choice.
The first series one episode one is Agatha Raisin and the quiche of death. Also worth noting, these are adapting an existing series of books by Ersi Beaten. And then the only other thing is I just found a new Cozy mystery, but it's not a TV series. It's a book series.
Maybe it could be come a TV series, but it's set in the 1950s and it's two widows who decide to run like a matrimony bureau. But then one of the women who consulted with them ends up murdered maybe by the man that they recommended she get married to. And so they have to clear his name to establish their business. And I just just like, what about that?
Isn't great. So that's a book. I mean, AP style guys says we're not supposed to use a word mistress anymore. But other than that, boy, but yeah, that is the right sort of man by Allison not clear.
So Chicago manual of style podcast. Like, I don't know that we've actually had the conversation about. Margaret is a Chicago guy, Chicago style. Absolutely.
Yeah. Kate, Arabian, and I have like a really like, we have a very BDSM relationship. Okay. So BDSM stands for Boston.
What's the D stand for? Boston something style. I can't I can't fill it in because I don't know Boston Dame style manual. Sure.
Boston Dame style manual. I love it. Great. Great work.
Guys, great work. That's my good joke that I spent a lot of time on. I didn't know where you're going. So I didn't know what to put in there, but yeah.
Okay. Elementary still slaps. I talked about it already, but rewatch that holds the fuck up. It's great Lucy lose outfits are terrific.
She's beautiful. She's so beautiful. I'm just great stuff. So yeah, there we go.
Okay. It is time to get to our and then say Abby is the one who said he cookies and if you are in the greater, hang on, I believe it's definitely Tennessee. Let me figure out which city, but it's called Mountain Laurel Baking Company. And it is in, I'm sorry, Abby, I navigated away from it to get to the Acorn information.
Well, it's in one of the Tennessee places, Mountain Laurel Baking Company, really great cookies, Abby, like scozy mysteries. It's $200 to get your business named on the podcast and it's $400 for us to accurately identify what it is. Or send my cookies. I am the weakest link.
Okay. Great, great, great work. Oh, it's in Twitter. She makes I'm just going to read this out here.
Corn pesto rolls filled with local corn, fresh basil and lots of parmesan cheese. I need a whole lot of dinner tonight. And so I just really emotionally mapped onto that description as something that seems important to me. So the podcast ad should be about bake goods and fewer of them should be about websites that make websites.
This is just one person. She does use to make her website though. I mean, I'm not I'm not I'm not including the name of any company that may or may not be an active advertiser on any other podcast that I do. I'm just saying I would like more variety, please.
Yeah. So if you have a small bakery and you would like to be featured on the show, you can either DM us for ad rates or DM me for my address and send you be good. Yeah. All right.
So I'm going to our longer segment for this episode, the Australian Children's Television Series, Louie. So, Catherine, what is the best show of 2020 and why is it blue? It is bluey. The I started thinking about bluey because Alan Suffamwall mentioned it to me as a fantastic show and started watching it with my kids.
Then I loved it, but it sort of stayed in a separate box in my head, which it really should not have. And then he and also Willa Pascan at Slate put bluey on their like best show of the year list. And I immediately saw both of those lists and was like, shit, it should have been on my list also. Yeah.
I think I first saw it when we got that house together, like during the pandemic ab in the middle of the summer. Right. Yeah. And the girls watch one super annoying show, like computer animated dogs who live with a wacky inventor and then bluey.
Probably pals or something. That's stupid bullshit. Yeah. And then bluey.
Yeah. And so yeah, we love we love Louie in this house. Henry is the one of the three of us who's the least interested in bluey. But he's young for it.
Yeah. But he does love the stuffed bluey that friend of the show, Lucas sent us from Australia. So nice. So the premise of bluey, it is a preschool aged show is for, I would say it hits sort of hardest from maybe like three through six or seven.
I probably, I think an eight or 10 year old would also enjoy it, but it gets sort of less target age at that point. It is built out of seven minute episodes. There are two seasons that exist. They're making a third.
Each season has like 50 some episodes in it, which one they're literally only complaining about the show and it's not even about the show. It's about the Disney plus interface that makes you just scroll infinitely through all 50 episodes on a single line. It's like, just, just like, give me a fucking great Disney plus. Just give me a grid.
Yeah. Yeah. And it is made is a show made completely in Australia, which is unusual for animation, which a lot of it is written in one place and then it gets like shipped out to big animation companies in Canada or Korea and Asia. Yeah.
Yeah. So famous, the famous outsourcing problem. Yeah. It is unusual in that it is made completely in Australia and the show is about a family of dogs who look like they are healers, blue healers specifically, although the mom and the younger sibling are red or orange healers.
And it's called Louie because of, because they're blue healers and the, because of the main characters named Louie also. Right. But like that's why she's named Louie because they're shorter blue dogs. And so yeah, so there's a mom and a dad and there's two daughters that are about four and six.
And each episode has them playing some game, basically. A lot of imagination based play. And it's much like the, the, the Peanuts Christmas special. The, the kids are voiced by actual kids who are, who are not credited anywhere that I could find presumably because of like privacy protection reasons, but, but the dad is voiced by like a pretty well known like rock star from Australia.
Right. What's his name? Yes. Um, uh, not the men at work guy who is the other Australian rock and roll star.
David Kormack. Yes. Okay. Okay.
Yeah. So not college queen. No, not calling, not calling. You're talking about the men at work guy?
Yeah. Uh, what is college something? Uh, man, you can do a lot of really interesting calling. Hey, there you go.
Yeah. I mean, I've watched enough of scrubs that I should just know. I hate him, but you should just get a pop up from a body cart. You can play guitar.
No, David Kormack is the lead singer in an Australian band called custard, which is a good name for a band. Um, and the voice actors are uncredited. The bluey Reddit group, which is actually quite active is pretty clear that it is a mix of, um, actors, child actors that they have cast and like the kids of people who write the show and make sure that's what I read was mostly staff members, kids, right? Which, uh, so they, you know, are particularly interested in protecting all of their privacy, which is a little admirable.
Right. Adorable. A lovely thing for a kids show. Um, Margaret, you have only seen a couple episodes.
Yeah. I got to watch, I watch, I think, seven per the advice of you two. Um, which one? You watch all of them.
Of course I did. There's six minutes long. No, it's true. It's just, I'm not used to overachieving Margaret.
Yeah. They fucking thought it's very funny. I was talking about, uh, what was happening on the podcast with my roommates and I was like, yeah, we're watching this. Um, we're talking about this Australian kids shown in bluey and my roommate, Breanne just got back from like spending a week with her.
God children was like, bluey. It's so good. It's, it's, it's a really terrific show. Um, so yes, I watched all seven, which a long time, let's just have the show know means a lot.
Yeah. So which ones did you watch and what were your thoughts about them? Okay. So I watched, um, barbecue, which is a real, sort of straightforward one that as Andrew pointed out, just sort of establishes the family dynamic.
Um, then we started veering into feelings, um, with a takeaway, um, which is the family getting into some shenanigans while the dad is waiting for spring rolls to be made at the takeaway place. And ends with like a, a deeply emotional note about like how you can, you're only young once. Right. So that one was like, whoa, it's just like shived in so smooth.
That's what we do. Is it some care for your kid play and you won't even feel the knife slide into your back. You're just, you're just like, Oh my God, suddenly I'm bleeding on the sidewalk. How did this happen?
Happens so often. And it's not all the rest of them were varying degrees of shiv. Yeah. I watched, uh, Creek, which made Catherine cry when she rewatched earlier today, which like, it absolutely correct because it's just like, like so beautiful and peaceful and like great.
Um, then I watched grannies, which, oh, a bunch of beach, which also gets me emotional beach, gets me emotional. My goodness. Um, great. It's got to be really emotional because that was like big sibling, little sibling dynamics.
And as a younger sibling, I was like, Oh, I feel this. And then as advised, I saved camping for last and boy, like that was even that didn't see that coming. Can't be really good. Like the shivng, like like, like, like, take away.
It was just like, Oh my God, I'm bleeding on the sidewalk. I didn't even feel that if that was that camping was like, I'm taking a drink one moment and then the next day I wake up and I'm like in a bathtub and like my kidney is gone. Yeah. You are, you are watching a person brandishing a knife and then someone from behind you kills you with a fucking laser beam.
Yeah. Um, and they're all really simple things. They all have just like really, really simple premise. It's like beach is like, bluey is given permission to walk after her mom who's walked along the beach on her own so that she can show her a shell.
And bluey is just like, you know, like navigating the new found independence and sort of like enjoying the freedom, but also scared and trying to figure out like how to be brave in front of a pelican. Right. And like, creek is like, they get bored playing at the playground. So they go to this creek and again, it's that push pull between like freedom and new things are scary and bluey navigates it with a plum, which is a big, like, such an older sibling thing.
Yeah. Um, camping. The one that is particularly vicious, emotionally. Clearly, then.
Um, bluey's family goes camping and she befriends this other dog, but this dog only speaks French, but because they're kids and they're meeting an imaginative play. They become friends and they do all these activities together, even though they don't speak the same language because they can understand each other very easily. And they plant this tree together. And if you speak even rudimentary French, then you know, at the end of this one day when blue is like, okay, see tomorrow, right?
And then the French dog is like, ah, no, she's we deep out. Always water bluey and you're like, no, he's not going to be there tomorrow. Oh, the man, he's going to be gone. Bluey.
The sadness is in front of you and you don't even know it. I do it. They just live with this dramatic irony. And then I only know the French that I learned from Muzzy commercials in like the early nineties.
I don't even know that. We go to the place where they planted the seed and the like leaves are poking up and she's like shouting for like Jean Paul. That's not his name. But it's like in that ballpark jump here jump here.
She's like jump here jump here. And then like his head's gone. She goes to the store mom and she's like, where do we go? And she's like, oh, we left.
And his vacation was over. And then they talk about how like, oh, which is also great in the middle of the night. Well, well, Bingo, your younger sister is doing her second Bush we of the five episodes I watched. This is what my kids call.
My kids love the phrase Bush we and use it. Correct. Your kids once again impeccable taste. Yeah.
Yeah. So and her mom does this very beautiful explanation of you know, like, sometimes people come into your life and then they leave your life and and you're like, it's fine. I'm not crying. And then they turn out the nightlight and suddenly you see all the stars.
You're like, it's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine.
And it ends with the way being like, will I ever see him again? And I'm being like, I don't know the world is full of miracles and then you cut back to the fucking grove with the fucking sprouted tree and it just it grows and you watch it grow and you watch time pass and there's this beautiful tree there and then older Bluey comes back and she's holding a book and like their grabby ass cousin is like, you know, it's my book and bluey is like, I'm just borrowing it. But you know, she's older. She's reading by herself and she sits under the tree to read.
And who comes up with John. It's so good. That's good. It's a word is what it is.
You're really gutting one that I think you can just imagine how gutting it is from the description that I forgot to recommend was one called the dump where bandit and Bluey and bingo take a trip to the recycling center to dump some stuff off and they're having a lovely time. And then when they get there, Bluey realizes that her dad is recycling a bunch of the drawings that she made because anybody with kids knows that they make so much fun are and you cannot possibly keep. I can't keep every like footprint Christmas tree comes home with them from take care. And it ends up in this big conversation about, you know, like what, you know, the paper gets recycled so someone else can make drawings on it and you'll make more drawings and everybody ends up in an okay place about it but that initial bit where Bluey realizes what's happening is is absolutely gutting.
Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. The thing is, is it those things where like the feelings only hit us like this because we're adults and there's so much sadness just like trying to express itself from our system. Right, that's what's happening right because the kids don't like nobody's shivng your kids right. Yeah, yeah.
One of the really interesting things about Bluey to me that I am sort of still trying to think through, which is that it is like a, it's the top level that is a preschool show, but they are very explicit about the fact that it is like an all ages show and they expect and hope that parents also enjoy it and adults also enjoy it. And I have seen a lot of shitty stuff that plays to both kids and adults by having like big broad kids stories that they can follow and then like little tiny like topical adult wise. Right, they like refer to a celebrity or something. Sure, the dream works model.
Right, right, or maybe even like it from a better from a more of a like a good faith model, you know, a Pixar situation where like the grownups are laughing at Edna Mode and the kids think she's funny too, but it sort of just hits different like the way that it is funny. Like an animaniacs, even where the kids get the like the zany antics and the adults get more of the like pop cultural stuff that's happening. Right, right, right, right. Yeah.
Bluey is doing something very different with the joint watching thing that like seems impossible to me except that they do it for like a hundred and fifty fucking episodes or however many they will have made by the end of season three. Yeah, we are talking about this now, by the way, because season two comes to the US and may I think maybe we should have mentioned that at the top. Yeah, but it is about to be really. Does have a does have an ineffective interface, but it's otherwise very good.
Yeah, season two is actually already in the States, but you have to have a cable subscription and like watch it on Disney now or whatever. Also, you should not do that because Disney now does that thing where it makes the little like the box with the TV episode get tiny for the last like 30 seconds or whatever while it prompts you to make a new guess what is super crucial the last 30 seconds of every bluey episode. Yep. It is a crime every time I see that in our face.
Anyhow, the I don't know how they do this, but like I have watched dozens of episodes of the show with my kids and they laugh so hard and are so in it and so like excited by it the way it depicts kids playing with each other. They are like just completely enthralled with the way there are these stories about how kids actually do imaginative play, which are so much more accurate and funnier and like just they hit kids better than any kind of like playing that I've ever seen on television. It's wild. And I'm also charmed by it like when they're like, Oh, yeah, I'm like, this is adorable playing grannies.
It captures, I think the feeling of playing as kids in a way that two kids reads as authentic and natural and just like this is this is how I play with my siblings is how I play with my friends like this is just sort of my life. Right. And for adults it's like, Oh, I remember like they capture the the like the truth of the feeling they like they can the essence of it in a way that transports you back in a way that not everything can like I don't watch. And get transported back.
Yeah, to what it felt like to be a kid with no taste, but I can watch blue and get transported back to like building a fort or like having to share or you know all the stuff that that they sort of deal with episode by episode and yeah so for adults it is definitely shoving in the time knife and just twisting it to remind you that everything is fleeting and we all one day will return to the earth. But then to kids is just like, Oh, this is just what my life is like. Yeah, because I was just bleeding. Yeah, just go by and seven minutes.
Yeah, it is also as a parent and like if there is a note of like I'm still trying to think this through about blue for me. It is that the level of parenting depicted on that show is human is impossible. Like no parent could sustain the constant enthusiasm for playing shops or whatever it is that is that is the one that is the one thing is the dead in particular is is almost always up for a pretend in a way that I would be absolutely. Personally cannot do and I don't think that I'm.
You know, I'm not the best at that particular thing but I also don't think that I'm unusual in your very good at being like a pretend salon customer. Yes, and they just sort of pretend around you it's fine is when you have to participate in the pretend that it all breaks down it really like I'm giving you a cup. Then it's then it's garbage. No, I.
Even while that is happening though you do get occasional flashes of the parents just flashing exhausted glances at each other or there is an episode where they're playing at the playground and bandit doesn't want to play as enthusiastically because there are other adults there and he doesn't want to embarrass himself and from the other Which I completely get so yeah, it is both it is capturing the parents at their like what you feel as parents should be your parenting ideal while also giving you just these little breadcrumbs of how hard it actually is to do that all the time. And I think the reason that it is like that is sometimes unsatisfying for me is because it's ultimately you cannot be both you cannot be perfect double vision right like either it is at the end of the day going to pick the parents perspective or it's going to pick the kids perspective and blue is a preschool show it picks the kids perspective. Every time it has to and kids don't want shouldn't have to deal with and can't deal with grown ups being like I can't deal with your shit right now like that is just never you do you do you do dabble in that palette in the takeaway episode. Oh, but so do kids do right kids absolutely do perceive some of that they perceive they feel it when you are tense they know how to press the button they kids 100% know when they we can't deal with their shit anymore but that can't be the thing that's valued at the end of the show or that can't be the place where you end.
And so for me as an area like yeah time is leading let's take a let's all jump in the fountain right right right so for me as a parent watching it like of course I am seeing the like but what happens after that. I'm dead like of course I am because it had to choose the end and like it shows right it shows for the four year olds and not for me wondering who has towels. Also I mean maybe there's like bluey nights where it's 730 p.m. and the girls are in bed and the adults can have their own lives again which is how I experience life.
Mostly. Well yeah I don't know how you get that green light like you have you all watch after right before bed and then you have bluey after the kids go to bed where it's just like a show where where the parents do the bills or whatever. Yeah there is an episode in the second season called sleepy time that is about how dysfunctional this family is bedtime situation is. And it makes me cry so hard.
Oh like this is why me muttering like wandering around our house and muttering fucking bluey has become like a regular fucking bluey. So much that episode and there are a couple of them like that in season two but I think sleepy time is really something unusual and special. One other thing I want to shout out about the show and I don't know how much of this you could sense from the episodes that you watched Margaret but there is a completely different musical score for every single episode of this show. The credits are good they're not like you're a cop if you skip them good but they're like fucking close but like you can you imagine having to write a totally different piece of music for every single one of these seven minute episodes.
Well they do lean often on like public domain like like arrangements of like classical songs you'll catch an O2 joy or something like it's not all 100% original but I do I understand what you mean like if you're watching like to pick a kid show that we talked about recently like Muppet Babies has like the same musical things that it uses in every episode for everything and that's not what blueies do. And O2Joy also like is deliberately chosen for that episode's theme. Okay this is the part where I say I'm in the middle reporting a giant bluey feature which is why I asked us to do this and so I have talked to a lot of the creators of bluey and including the guy who makes the music and if that is interesting to you please read the feature when it comes out. But one thing that I don't think is going to make it into that piece and so I will tell you now is that the O2Joy shows up in an episode called bike which is pretty early in season one and it's like as bluey premises go.
It's more straight up and down than usual like bluey is frustrated that she can't ride her bike immediately and so she kicks it over she sits down on the bench next to band it and then they watch a bunch of other kids around the playground also failing at something like over and over and over again. Bingo is trying to drink out of a water fountain but she can't hit the button and then get back to where the water is before the button like that's one of the time to water fountain. They have a kid who is trying to go on the monkey bars and can't and then bingo's cousin muffin has managed to get one arm through the backpack but can't get the other. So she's just going around in circles with this one.
And they use O2Joy and it is in a very like initially halting and then gradually like triumphant way which is a good use for that song. Margaret's already making a sad face. Let me up that for you Margaret. The person who makes the music teaches piano lessons and one of the songs that he always starts with is O2Joy because you can play it all under one hand.
Like as a kid you can go bam, bam, bam, bam, but without having to like jump around. And so when kids can finally master that piece it does have this sense of like triumph and it is a great early piano piece. So that is why O2Joy is particular is the music for that episode because he has watched countless kids flunking out O2Joy under their hands with like exactly that same halting. Yeah.
That's stupid. That's stupid. You're crying. You're crying.
You're so fucking much. Like we on Overdue Craig read the mouse on the motorcycle by Beverly Cleary because she passed recently. And that's a big thing about her work and like her, her like artistic story too is just this ability to like tell stories that succeed on a lot of levels because they, they can communicate to kids what it is like to be a kid and they can also communicate to adults. And it's not just to be a kid and it like used her experience as a children's librarian talking to actual kids about the things they wanted to read and in the books they were looking for.
And Louie is in a similar vein where it's not like over the top fart joke boss baby bullshit kid stuff where it only appeals to kids because it's loud and colorful and and scat humor and they'll grow out of it and they, you know, they will never revisit it ever. they will wonder why they found it funny later. Yeah. It works on a lot of levels in a way that kids work that enderers does work.
Yeah, blue is like Ramona level good. Yeah, it is Mr. Rogers level good is my feeling. So yeah, watch bluey you guys.
No, just and then just get like get hype for Catherine's upcoming bluey profile. You'll be all prepped. You'll be prepped for bluey. All right, well, Andrew, if they have like some stories of ineffable sweetness and also deep emotional feeling, but they wanted to share with us.
Where could they where could they go and do that? Oh, wait, no, no, no, wait. I'm going to use a bridge under use a bridge. You know what build that bridge with Australian.
And you know who else is Australian? Josh Thomas star creator and primary screenwriter of our next TV book book. Oh, we're just going to be season one of everything's going to be OK. This is a free form show.
Always want to call it ABC family has not been that. I think we serve in the podcast. It's transitioned while we were making the podcast, but it's we've been making the podcast for six years. That's too long.
It's too long. We should stop. Oh, we can't stop. That's where the tree growing behind.
Oh, no, stop it. I already had to look at the pictures of your children and just like see the dreadful margin time across their tiny little bodies since the last time I saw either of them. Henry could not even hold up his head when I saw him last. Yeah, he was just sitting up and now he's holding a tiny double double business.
Poor balls. Yeah, this is on the last is. Oh, I don't like it. Anyways, anyways, everything's going to be OK.
It is streaming on Hulu. And it is also a show that has well chosen emotional depth and does a great job of respecting the emotional lives of its team characters. And Josh Thomas, I think he's really remarkable for being like a master of abandoning respectability politics and representation. Like he's just really comfortable letting the characters that he chooses from whatever semi-marginalized backgrounds he's working from be like terrible normal people.
Yeah. So I think you guys all really like it. But either way, for next episode, you're going to want to watch the pilot. And we'll talk about that more.
So now, Andrew, if they have some stories of ineffable sweetness and deep emotional feeling they want to share with me and make me cry, where can they do that? You can do that on Twitter at twitter.com. We also are on Facebook at facebook.com slash atvpodcastinbox atvpod at gmail.com. And our website is atvpodcast.com.
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And New Jersey came in number 48. And the official state Twitter account tweeted a link to that poll and then a picture of a state flag that said New Jersey, we don't like you either. Which is a good bad state. Yeah.
A good bad state. Anything else? Margaret, you'd said the tea people club already. If they want to follow us on Twitter individually, where should they go?
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