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Episode #3: Dr. Lumley on an Emerging Therapy for Chronic Pain

from Health Psych Currents · host Society for Health Psychology - Division 38 of the American Psychological Association

In this episode of Health Psych Currents, we explore a transformative perspective on chronic pain, along with a new Member Spotlight and the latest Society news.Hosts Dr. Josh Eyer, Elena Silverman-Scott, Jorge Cienfuegos Szalay are joined by Dr. Mark Lumley, a leading clinical health psychologist, to explore a transformative approach to treating chronic pain. Dr. Lumley challenges the traditional medical model that labels pain as an incurable condition requiring lifelong management. Instead, he introduces EAET, a model that views many chronic pain syndromes as neuroplastic conditions partly driven by the brain’s response to unresolved emotional trauma and relationship conflicts. Dr. Lumley provides actionable insights for clinicians on how to move beyond symptom regulation, encouraging providers to facilitate the processing of suppressed emotions—such as anger and grief—that often act as "threat" signals in the nervous system. By shifting the clinical focus from management to recovery, Dr. Lumley offers a hopeful framework for helping patients achieve significant symptom reduction. This conversation is an essential listen for professionals seeking to deepen their clinical practice and improve patient outcomes.This month, we are introducing a new segment, Members Making Waves.  We are highlighting Dr. KayLoni Olson. Learn more about Dr. Olson, her work in health psychology, and her involvement in the Society.EPISODE CITATIONS:Lumley, M. A., Yamin, J. B., Pester, B. D., Krohner, S., & Urbanik, C. P. :. Trauma matters: psychological interventions for comorbid psychosocial trauma and chronic pain. Pain, 163:, 599–603. https://doi.org/10.1097/j.pain.0000000000002425 Lumley, M. A., & Schubiner, H. :. Psychological Therapy for Centralized Pain: An Integrative Assessment and Treatment Model. Psychosomatic medicine, 81:, 114–124. https://doi.org/10.1097/PSY.0000000000000654 Kaufmann, D., Sturgeon, J. A., Mirow, S., Zinkhan, G., Schlesinger, N., Yarns, B. C., Kommit, K., Miller, A., & Lumley, M. A. :. Emotional awareness and expression therapy for migraine: a preliminary randomized controlled trial. Pain medicine :, 27:, 948–951. https://doi.org/10.1093/pm/pnag034 Dr. Lumley maintains an annotated bibliography of peer-reviewed articles on EAET and gives the reference and brief description of each article or study. This document also lists other references that are related to EAET, including Pain Reprocessing Therapy. Click on this link to access this resource: ​​Publications on EAET and related approaches.pdfEPISODE CREDITS:Hosts: Josh Eyer, PhD, Elena Silverman-Scott, Ph.D., Jorge Cienfuegos Szalay, Ph.D.Producer and Managing Editor: Mark Vogel, Ph.D., ABPPAssistant Managing Editor:  Valeria Martinez-Kaigi, Ph.D., MSEdited by Isaac Schutz Thoughts or suggestions?  Complete our listener survey at the Society webpageYou can also find expert bios, transcripts, and details of each episode on the  Society webpage.Subscribe today on Apple and Spotify.  You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here>> https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2625656.rss

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In this episode of Health Psych Currents, we explore a transformative perspective on chronic pain, along with a new Member Spotlight and the latest Society news. Hosts Dr. Josh Eyer, Elena Silverman-Scott, Jorge Cienfuegos Szalay are joined by Dr. Mark Lumley, a leading clinical health psychologist, to explore a transformative approach to treating chronic pain. Dr. Lumley challenges the traditional medical model that labels pain as an incurable condition requiring lifelong management. Instead...

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