EPISODE · Jan 19, 2026 · 54 MIN
Episode 30, When Your Ex Turns the Kids Against You with Lisa Johnson
from Jess Saying With Jessica Danel · host Jess Saying
In this conversation, I’m joined by high-conflict divorce strategist and author Lisa Johnson to unpack legal abuse—when an ex weaponizes the justice system to exhaust you emotionally and financially. We get practical: red flags to watch for, how to document every interaction without losing your mind, why “parallel parenting” often beats “co-parenting,” and what to do when your ex starts turning your kids against you (a reality facing an estimated 22 million parents in the U.S. and Canada). Lisa blends story with step-by-step tactics you can use this week—communication scripts, evidence logs, and court-ready timelines—so you can show up calm, credible, and prepared. If you or someone you love is stuck in a custody war with a relentless ex, this one’s a lifeline. This episode offers education, not legal advice.
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