EPISODE 302: How to be the Church with Shannon O’Dell and Allen Holmes (Part Two)

This week, more content from the Be Church Conference.  We are sharing an interview with two Senior Pastors in the Southeast - Allen Holmes, Lead Pastor at Definition Church - who will share some incredible stats about you - pastors and church staff members. The stats Allen shares are pretty alarming. And in the podcast today, you’ll hear from pastor Shannon O’Dell - Lead Pastor of Brand New Church. Also, later in the show, we'll share a bonus interview with Tom and Deane Grossclose from Cross Purpose Ministries. This is a husband and wife team that has a ministry that serves you - pastors and church staff members at churches and those in the ministry. They serve you with free Biblical counseling and teaching to help you have great relationships. You’ll notice a theme on today’s show from Allen and Shannon about the stats seen in the Church today - that our divorce rate is 50%, that its lonely at the top, that pastors and staff have very little outlet to share their struggles with anyone. Tom and Deane are a part of the solution - they can provide the help you might need. Its okay to ask for help. So, we’ll share my interview with this couple at the end of the show to share how you can get help if you need it. SHOW NOTES