Episode 31: Meet Leslie Bird, fiction’s most abrasive woman + the First Nation men who started an arts movement

Let author Catherine Therese introduce you to Leslie Bird, a fictional character so caustic she’ll make your eyes water. Yet, as Michaela discovered, the story behind Leslie’s creation is more likely to bring a sympathetic tear to your eye. + The course of Australian art changed in 1971 with the formation of the Papunya Tula art movement. John Kean, was there to witness its birth and tells Cath what forces he believes inspired and informed the movement’s four leading lights. Guests Catherine Therese, author of “Things She Would Have Said Herself” and an earlier memoir “The Weight of Silence” John Keane, author of “Dot, Circle and Frame; The making of Papunya Tula Art” Michaela mentions “Mrs Dalloway” by Virginia Woolf Catherine mentions Walt Whitman, Henry Lawson and David Grossman (Maybe also “The Day is Dancing” by Rowena Bennett) INSTAGRAM @ctherese5 @hachetteaustralia @hachettebooks @terriann.white   FACEBOOK @Hachette Books @Terri-Ann WhiteSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.