Episode 32 - What the slave trade can teach us about Trump and US decline | Rudolph Ware | UNAPOLOGETIC

In this episode, historian Rudolph “Butch” Ware joins us for a conversation about the global system slavery built — and how its legacy still shapes the modern world.He breaks down the myths we’ve been taught about abolition, the spiritual legacy of resistance, and how white supremacy was not just a byproduct of history, but an architecture that still defines our institutions.We also talk about Gaza, the erasure of truth in public life, and how protest and free speech are being crushed in the U.S.Butch is running for governor of California, so we ask him if this is the best way to make change, considering that he is operating in a political system that often rewards self-promotion and aggrandizement over fundamental reform.UNAPOLOGETIC is Hosted by Ashfaaq CarimChaptersUNAPOLOGETIC is Hosted by Ashfaaq CarimChapters00:00 The hidden hands behind the slave trade  03:00 The scale of the Euro-American trade  06:15 Slavery and modern capitalism  09:05 Africa’s stagnation, Europe’s rise  11:50 Early African resistance: King Afonso  14:00 Commodifying African bodies as currency  16:15 How European slavery was different  19:00 Sexual violence and trauma under slavery  22:00 Destroyed families, lost spiritual legacies  24:40 Guns, warlords, and destabilized Africa  27:15 The myth of British abolition  30:05 African Muslims fought slavery first  33:30 Gaza and the legacy of colonial brutality  36:40 White supremacy: These aren’t people  39:30 End of empire: The extinction burst  42:00 Campus repression and the imperial boomerang  45:00 Malcolm X and the betrayal of liberalism  48:00 Why Butch joined the Green Party  52:15 From mobilizing to organizing  55:00 California 2026: Breaking the duopoly  60:00 A revolutionary political strategy  65:00 Truth-telling in political theater  70:00 Student resistance and corporate campuses  74:00 A generation that’s built different  77:00 The urgency of third-party power  80:00 A final word on faith and freedom