Episode 332 The Trust Algorithm with Alice Sesay Pope (Part 2)

John continues his conversation with Alice Sesay Pope about how AI is changing business, leadership, and entrepreneurship. Alice explains how Generative and Agentic AI can help entrepreneurs and small businesses work faster, save money, and grow without huge teams. They also talk about trust, guardrails, and how to wisely use AI. About Alice Sesay Pope: Alice Pope is a Fortune 100 Customer Experience and Operations executive who helps enterprise organizations transform CX into a measurable driver of revenue, retention, and loyalty — while modernizing cost-to-serve through digital enablement, automation, and Generative AI. She leads at the intersection of customer trust, operational excellence, and innovation — because the organizations that win at scale don't choose between efficiency and empathy. They build intelligent systems that deliver both. With more than 30 years of executive leadership in complex, global environments, Alice has led large-scale transformations that connect the full CX ecosystem — product, engineering, analytics, care, and field operations — turning customer insight into sustained business performance. Listen to this episode to learn more: [00:00] - How The Trust Algorithm can help entrepreneurs [04:17] - Being a conduit [06:03] - What leaders should think about before implementing Agentic AI [08:00] - Every business starts with people [09:15] - What does it take to be a great leader in the AI age? [12:22] - Utilizing AI from day one when starting a new business [17:10] - How Alice's faith impacts her business [19:33] - Alice's definition of success [20:07] - The most valuable skill sets in the AI era [22:35] - Traits of a great leader [23:23] - #1 daily habit [24:23] - The legacy Alice wants to leave behind [26:11] - Book recommendations [28:17] - How Alice invests in her marriage [29:34] - Circle 10 and why this program is important to her [32:31] - Best way to connect with Alice [35:18] - Wrap-up NOTABLE QUOTES: "Don't take everything that a Generative AI gives you as gospel. Still inspect, still conduct your audit." "Life and business are all about relationships. There's nothing before that. There's nothing after that." "Every business is a problem solver of some kind." "Success is utilizing your God-given talents to make the world a better place. So, when you go to bed at night, you feel good about what you do." "You can have an advisor, or a coach, Generative AI. But there's nothing more powerful than a real person who could be a coach, who can exchange an idea with you, who can feel your pain when you've had a failure, and help you say, 'Get back up again,' and encourage you." "There will be people who embrace the tools that will build wealth in ways that we've never seen before … but, at the same time, there are people that will be too scared of it … and it will widen the wealth gap." "Don't just launch a generative AI solution just to be launching it … Start with your customer. What can you solve for your customer faster? Will it reduce customer effort? Will it increase loyalty?" "There's something that's still powerful about a human connection and I hope our world doesn't lose that." BOOK MENTIONED: Good to Great: Why Some Companies Make the Leap ... and Others Don't by James C. Collins (https://a.co/d/0aXgmwDX) USEFUL LINKS: https://alicesesaypope.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/alicesesaypope/ https://www.instagram.com/alicesesaypope/ https://x.com/Alicesesaypope https://www.youtube.com/@alicesesaypope The Trust Algorithm: How Leaders Build Trust with Generative AI - https://a.co/d/0aKOKLBw Transformation From The Inside Out - https://a.co/d/0esUYdS0 CONNECT WITH JOHN Website - https://iamjohnhulen.com    LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhulen Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/johnhulen    Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/johnhulen    X - https://x.com/johnhulen    YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@iamjohnhulen    EPISODE CREDITS Intro and Outro music provided by Jeff Scheetz - https://jeffscheetz.com/