Episode 359 - Week of September 15th - 21st

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Thank you everyone That's probably the only reason we're still here. Yeah, it's cars hard work. I agree Not hard work necessarily, but just his erratic viewpoints have kept us in the graces of Lord for court Get the rep you want to go over the guest list we can do we do here? I'd love to this week.

We start off with all right all right all right all right all right 2379 Matthew McConaughey poetatus poetatus No, that's from letter ride. That's 2380 Jordan Jensen And we finished over the week with an old Canadian boy 2381 Taylor kitsch no idea He was Canadian and that's a that is a fucking Matrix moment right like we're just at trivia and There's a big fucking argument about John Carter. That was my matrix performance He just pulled from me. So I don't appreciate that.

But yes, yes He's been on the brain. We've been talking about his name was never brought up. He was always the guy in if that but yet It's a major moment for sure Yeah, I once he said he was Canadian. I really heard it fucking right buddy Sounds like he was down at the 7-eleven with Chad and Marnie before he went down to the fucking Joe Rogan show blood fucking right That's my dad.

My dad gooey like He's that fucking guy bro like gooey and I we had this fucking sense of humor I'm a big one of a couple back. He's it was all good. Don't you know a couple of sisters exactly well I did a deep dive into tenor kitchen one. Thank you Alright, what do you rate this fucking dumpster fire of a week?

Yes avoiding any land mines in this media landscape has just become a hotbed Yeah, I mean why talk about something meaningful. That's go. Oh, but these are I I'm telling you I don't think any of the Charlie Kirk stuff he was like yeah, he was getting ready to go. We have hunt an elk the iron I mean I give it a wait a second though.

No, it doesn't make sense because he talked about Charlie Kirk died Charlie Sheen happened So I think it's on the same day. Yeah, no, I'm saying so Charlie Kirk dies and immediately Joe Rogan goes elk on Wait a second. What you think he did it? Well, we're not sure if the guy did it the guy did not do it.

No fucking way sure that we had a episode of Charlie Sheen. Yeah This episode we were sort of like I think it's a bit weird that they came back to the air Yeah, then we did a weird thing like well, he wasn't pronounced dead for two hours So did they sit there and wait? Yeah, we never got a lot of the podcast that was done the next day or after and there's not a mention of it is odd What's all I'm done after how do we know that the next day? I thought he mentioned the chart he mentioned to someone who's are all done after it Well, you're saying you're right.

I'm pretty sure he mentioned in one of them Charlie Oh, and the Taylor Kitch when he was like Charlie Sheen was just in here So it doesn't it doesn't make this timeline like I've heard kind of so I'm talking about a lot of timelines But this timeline doesn't add up so he's here. He hears Charlie Kirk die with Charlie Sheen We know that Taylor Kitch is after Charlie Sheen When's the elk hunting? I think after Taylor Kitch he goes elk hunting so like Kamar said they do a full episode Three hours without one mention of Charlie Kirk getting assassinated. We are I mean I'm gonna give I think they brought Charlie Sheen back Four days later to re-record the end they went to the bathroom for four days What I'm cooking do you guys think this week coming up then we'll hear about comments on Jimmy Kimmel or anything like that Probably okay.

He should say something Joe's mr. Free Unless all that is all these episodes that come down are have happened despite it It's crazy watching a right-wing media spin this where they're like they did not strong-arm them into getting Jimmy Kimmel off the air It's like that's exactly what happened. Well, what's crazy is that You go back and you listen when Colbert was canceled and he says yeah, I imagine that uh Jimmy Kimmel and Jimmy Fallon will be canceled Very shortly and you think he's just saying it like prick thing to say, but no, he knows they're gonna be canceled It's all very like how how I know our podcast is at risk if you're to sleep badly of the grand emperor But you have to concede that this is insane like he's doing everything you guys railed about from the left Just be more blatantly and way worse. Hold on.

Just do this different than Shan Don't do this hold on stop for yes, it's way different than Shane Didn't call SNL and say you have to take Shane Gillis off SNL No, okay, but because of who canceled him the canceling's all right, but it's just because the president cancel What he said about Charlie Kurt was probably like inconsiderate considering the timing But it wasn't like the worst thing you've ever heard but if it's possible I think this makes Trump look really bad agree But if it's possible the people like say when Janet Jackson showed her tits and people called in and said I'm offended if people actually called in and said they're offended by what Jimmy Kimmel said that is a different story You can see that no, well, no, because I imagine people are constantly calling in Complaining the other it's when your own side starts calling in I imagine that they if Biden was president People started calling in saying Fox News is offensive does Fox News then deserve to have all of its affiliates pulled off the radio in the airwaves If it was I guess it was tied to the George floor murder like you don't really it really seems like Trump doesn't like that these guys are making a living off making him look bad Yeah, and he has the power to do something about it And like I'm sure you heard the whole thing about there's like one network trying to buy the other and they need Yeah, but it's still is about speech because you're taking someone off the air boat But what people said is Jimmy Kimmel if he's popular can I will start a podcast and the millions of people Do whatever absolutely and he probably will and tomorrow again. Let the market sort it out This is a whole this is a conservative if it's possible to the market complain That's not the mark. That's not the market was complaining to the stations. This is offensive you guys airing his stuff It's a speech.

Yeah, no, no, no, no, but no no stop and I'll tell you why hold on Simon If a hundred thousand people complain, but the viewership is five million or four million even have that though You're okay, but it doesn't matter because Trump said so if Kimmel's show was successful. I don't think this is happening as well No, I disagree. I agree that the ratings were fading on it But dude, I can tell you that mark we do does make fun of Trump and his ratings are fading We do this Swung like I said I want it before but for real in that country and like Making fun of Trump is up is offending more than half the country. It doesn't matter Well, no, but they are making fun of buying like what's the difference?

Yeah, dude We spent four years with the people say all sorts of foul shit fucking let's go Brendan fuck Joe Biden not really not In the mainstream media on our podcast Not in the mainstream media because they believe that's their site Yeah, but Fox News exists and they say awful things about all sorts of people We've got to just say it's just the comedy show because that's not news but you can't pair them together, right? Well, so Jimmy Kim labels himself as news that it's okay for you If he lays himself some news that he could be sued for saying the shooter was mega because that's that's not even him throwing to Trump When he said that the reporter says how are you dealing with you trying to come because I guess I'm all right But you've seen that we're building this that was the joke of that clip But prior to that he said the shooter was me But if he says if he if he preamps that by saying there's another theory out there that this could be the case like a What would be better is where does the free speech not do that joke? Agreed and go there and like everyone else did jokes that night I don't know so you do agree then that there are things off limits for jokes. That's your stance right now No, if you just have to make a joke.

It's not he's not I don't know They want him to go back on air and apologize and make a donation to Charlie Kirk's Thing and so people are saying he can't do that because then he's saying you're right, but he's not been shut down He's been you offended people what do you know what I mean? It's fluid it's fluid it's fluid the president okay the fucking head of the FCC went on a podcast and said more will drop And you know the fact that the president is even talking about Jimmy Kimmel being canceled insane It's what world are we living in that that that is on the docket of the leader of the free world like the beginning it makes Trump look bad makes him a petty it makes him a week like what do you care what these guys do? Well, I care that he got yanked because Trump has a problem with him making jokes about him But he said the shooter was mega Yeah, but it doesn't your weight okay, but but a month so that offended of all of mega all of a guy who I assume is always No, they're not watching Jimmy Kimmel. They're not the audience.

They only know what you're watching Listen before the only people that matter are the left that are watching his show Anyways, so unless he offends them in some way that's what it is That's what it is so people are offended more by this than they were offended by Charlie Kirk being murdered And that's where people are saying there's a problem here. Sorry because I really got canceled for what he said and Jimmy Kim got suspended for what he said and but people are saying that's worse than what happened to Charlie Kirk him losing his job Is worse exactly crying exactly who's saying that the left is walking like you're saying Long live with Jimmy Kimmel than they are still anyone that's celebrated Charlie Kirk like journalists You're saying if you know people are How many people did you meet in real life that's celebrated Charlie Kirk stuff? This is really awesome not celebrate But painted Charlie Kirk is a bad person like all of Canadian media did like our country sees him as a bad person a racist Like our country media painted him in a poor light You don't care because so is your point that media can't have like I don't understand because my point is a group of people in another country With different opinions can be offended by something. Yeah, okay.

Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes What if I don't understand 50-50 like everyone most people are Democrats was I think most people are Trumpers.

Okay, none of that matters Kimmel is a false premise that we all agree like everyone agrees Trump's an asshole a douchebag and stuff No, that's not true. What you just said most Will say to you like his character or whatever. They will not say he's the best guy ever. He's an amazing person Come on.

Are you kidding me? I don't know fairness. I don't know like of the Trump base I don't know how many of them are like diehard maggas and how many of them are people who just were like well I can't vote for what's a lot of them are diehard maggas. Yeah, but what's a lot mad?

Is it 20% or is it 50% or is it 70% like it's like zero percent? Which is not no There's a group of people though that probably are despised Trump, but despise Left issues or platforms more so it's like what does any of this have to do with free speech? It's it's not it is it's a president Canceled he's on the air right now. I had her show canceled her shows on the air.

She's on the air. She's on the air There was well, that's fine. Come on You're missing the point Joe Biden didn't call the network and so you have to fire rosanne the network fired rosanne because they don't agree with it We don't know that Trump actually made that call and we don't know They could kiss up the Trump they could have been pulling the strings behind using the FCC the same way Trump is using the FCC We wouldn't know why would we have heard about it because right wing is all over that shit There's no way that would have just gone unknown. There's just they were asking me in four fucking years any little thing There's no way if that is in toss said this guy is lying about me on a show and I'm gonna lose election So please get him off the air or else you guys will have to find a new job if that's literally what happened It's horrible.

It's very scary. Yeah, but we have bigger funds in our own country than Jimmy Kimmel getting canceled I just I see it as another cancellation of a long line of cancellations But if you're on that side you you you accepted if you're not like I don't think he should have been suspended for what he said I do see what he said is inaccurate and people should say this is wrong There's a possible world where they're like advertisers gonna pull out if you keep making fun like but that didn't happen There is a but you're making up. Yeah, there is a possible world where advertisers I didn't happen made a call say if you don't get this guy off Who's making fun of me and hurting my feelings every night? He said I don't get your deal I just understand the words that come out of the guy's mouth you like you're like well, that's not I can't be he pretty much said that right?

He said it, but James right now Saying you don't hold a Trump to the same fucking standards if Joe Biden completely hypocritical yeah People, but I don't I see people get canceled all the time Yeah, and when it's when the it's there the right side It's fine. No, how I'm the host of the president of the United States or the leader of any country if the leader of our country Didn't like fucking what about this You know what I mean country just blocked kneecap from coming into performance. Yeah, who's kneecap? It's a band a controversial Irish band and so that we're banning free speech.

There like we wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait Do you have the whole story? I'm just curious yeah Because I can tell you I can tell you from personal experience that many rappers didn't get into the country and it had nothing to do No, keep in mind This is all I'm saying if no no, no, keep in mind They might be using their criminal records as a way to say we don't like what you're saying You're not coming in the country now. So now your problem is Israel, but remember Trump's like Arm and arm with fucking yeah, who? Well, come on what I'm saying has banned Irish language ban kneecap from entering the country saying group has made statements that are contrary to Canadian values I have a big I was due to perform Toronto at two shows on October and two other shows back over what they called me cap Do you have a problem here?

I just we have worse Of restriction on speech here. Yeah, but we have to but we have to wait You're doing this weird thing where you're like the one place that still has free speech in the world is slowly losing it And you're like I'm fine with it because we don't have it. I don't think I've ever been to Washington DC. Yeah.

Yeah, and you can't talk about it No, have you ever had free speech? I mean, I've never got a chance for anything. I've said yo, yo, yo, yo So you're you're retort to all of this is well We don't have it here. So you can't talk about what they have there not having here So we should accept whatever they do.

No, but we can call it the hypocrisy Oh wait, I'm just curious during covid when you had things that we're doing covid when Jimmy Kimmel said people You in this country, why are you so affixing? You're just saying we have problems in this country. I'm talking about this country now You're still on Jimmy Kimmel during covid. Did you fucking you had things to say that we're anti-government?

Did you go to jail? Did anyone knock at your door ask for papers? I don't know Nothing to do with people to people free speech is simply the government cannot arrest you for what you say That's what free speech is not been arrested. No, but the president clearly had him taken off the air because even like we said I almost got a place where we saw that's not clear But if that is the thing then it's to be you're doing this weird thing where if it was buying it would be clear as day It would be cut and dry happen with Biden people got canceled We know behalf of the Biden administration to Twitter.

We know so sorry. No, sorry, sorry, sorry You're now the contention is we don't know if Trump got him taken down He might have just been taken down because the guy wants a bad rate Trump's favor That's still just as bad, right? Well, I mean, that's the same thing. Yeah, that's that's the same thing What does it mean?

It means that you have a bunch of cronyism in the government currying favor like I've heard other people suggesting people calling Trump Hitler and people Fascist and we talked about how could people get to the point that they do something right? But you called Biden a fascist I've never called him a fascist you did you brought up Fascists and you pulled up the list of what fascism is and you made us go over it and then you said this sounds Yeah, I know my presentation on Biden being fascist I think all governments are fascist to a degree. I agree with that 100% but like I said, they work hand-in-hand with fucking corporations That went sideways, who are we talking about? We haven't even started.

Oh, he hasn't said a name or a number Let's say a name and if we get to it 2379 or 2016 let's talk about something we can't let's talk about a dollar It's fine. We just we said the name now. Let's talk about something we can't agree on There's no way that guy wrote that letter, right? The poem no, not not not.

Yes, he definitely wrote that Bt wrote No, the guy's letter to his trans lover. They're pretty much admitting. It's not a letter. It was a texture sure sure.

Well, just it was very it was very He was the word squad car. He said didn't he just lays it all it's such a weird conversation on the cash Patel wrote it But again, yeah, yeah, it could be easy. We'll tell you that he was killed by Israel and not even the left way I wasn't I'm not saying he was killed by anybody. I'm saying well He was killed by something.

No, I know I'm just saying the whole the letter the Outfit, you know, it's weird to is you know, you know the footage of him running across the top of the thing Yeah, I thought that was like in my head. I thought that was later. That's happening like as as there's like crowd shoots and runs Yeah, we don't hang out. No, I mean the whole thing to him putting the gun back together him texting and being like There's a squad guard by the gun thing like I said at the beginning if Trump took him off there That's really bad.

It makes him look shitty. The bigger concern is the people who are like That's the guy the guy ran his mouth. You're the guy fucked around. You're you're saying that people are glossing over The bigger picture, which is Charlie Kirk getting assassinated political violence and also like but it makes a huge difference if it's Who the shooter is on what side the shooter lands on was he CIA was he you know Was he a kid from the left like they say that matters that matters to the context of Charlie Kirk No, I think without knowing the cause or the mode of People's reaction is more concerning.

I agree. Yeah, I know I said that on day one It's disgusting what the left does where they fucking say that. It's okay that this guy died because they don't like I'm telling you I'm telling you like 90% of what you're reading that Charlie Kirk hate and the shit from the right That's like we should burn this fucker down and go kill a bunch of fucking that's all Russian bots That's all fucking shining. That's dude.

None of that is from this country I'm just telling you again the CBC editorial on Charlie Kirk was concerning. I'm not denying that they're are Keep in mind. This is what happens. Okay journalists read fucking comments and they're like well This is how the country feels and then they're like I have to write a puff piece based on how the country feels when in reality They're reading fucking Russian propaganda.

That's like you guys should hate each other. Let's also back up a second Let's think about this just for one minute the guy that shot Charlie Kirk. They have right now. He got away Right like for all intents and purposes.

He's gone in the wind his dad brings him in which is oh, I mean I'm just gonna say a little bit convenient because think about it within like a day They shouldn't have a guy, but they do have a guy. He's got a trans girlfriend everything lines up so fucking perfect right wing family gun nut trans girlfriend It's all fucking super weird, which is so weird. So keep in mind too now. They stop looking we have the guy Right, so there's no need why look anywhere else when there's all sorts of fucking weird shit I'm I'm an agreement.

I think it's it's peculiar, but I also agree with what come are saying like that shouldn't overshadow The fact that he got killed no what I'm saying is we should pay attention to the fact that he got killed again If you were and I hate to do this Let's just say you were trying to stoke the fires in the US so that they weren't looking at you for example Israel you would you would love this sort of shit and you have the sort of people in place that could easily shoot this guy from a Distance get on a plane and get the fuck out and never be seen I think it causes I don't know what the word is but like it feels sort of cool that the right wing hasn't rioted a shot up people or Some sort of retaliatory thing. It's morning. It would appear Right now again like we said out the set off if this episode of Matthew McConnie happened the day after or with Charlie Kirk I mean Kitch it would be interesting to see what they said, but I think Very certain economy happened before Viewpoints on a eyes seem like a real acceptance versus some actors are like this is gonna ruin the industry and everything Would you agree with that statement? Listen man, I played that many men 50 cents song at trivia on Monday And this girl ran in and was like what is this I need to know how her phone out?

And I said it's AI and she put her phone back and she said fuck you and walked away And I was like that's I was like I understand cuz I wrestled with it at first like I was like should I like this? It seems gross It seems weird, but I was like this just bangs too hard for me to hate like and I'm sorry and I thought about it I was like hey I didn't create this on its own It's not like there's a super computer just making banging out 50 cent hits in like a human sat-down Did all that shit so it's just like I was explaining to someone like if you think about the analog age when we were coming out of the analog age If you made music and you were like oh, I have like a digital synth. I bet people were like oh no That's like you know, I mean you can't do that. That's cheating and it's kind of this like it's just the next I feel like people is a really good example like he's an artist in air quotes Yeah, because he's like using tools computer tools to drag and drop body parts or whatever it is to create this He's like the very lowest fi AI You see what I'm saying sure he's like AI where he's actually the AI giving the prompt That's the same thing as you deciding which song you should Replace with Whoever's music to make a mashup like girl talk like we don't say he's not an artist Just because they took two other people's work That's just rude to mentory versions of what you're talking about I don't know.

I think I'm just changing my mind a little bit on coming around to like art done by AI I think the problem is because here's my thing like Yeah, you still have to have a good idea or It's just not gonna be interesting whatever the subject matter is you know Yeah, so it would be like if you lost use of your hand, but you're an amazing artist Like if someone came up with someone paint Yeah, but you're coming up with the ideas like if you right now like let's say it's actually I always think about it Because I have zero artistic skill when it comes to like drawing doodling I'm just terrible And I always wanted to do like an animated series because I feel like I'm decent with voices But I never the animation part is the absolute hardest most expensive like the voice part is easy I could do that right here. I said it's the easiest no And so like for someone like me it like it breaks away a huge barrier where like now not now But in five years from now, I'll probably be able to sit on my computer and animate a whole series where I do all the voices And then again, I can release it maybe no one watches Maybe it's shit cuz I'm garbage, but maybe someone you know what I mean Maybe it becomes the next YouTube sound at the end of the world. No, that's why I'm saying it's like I see both sides of it Come on. I I'm not like like I said I try to find the rose colored glasses and be like a human helped make this and it bangs further Well, I'm like how is that different than South Park?

Like I know somebody's drawing South Park, but like to one end You know it's not the Simpsons. Yeah Because obviously we went from I don't know TT 1000. Yeah, I mean that's the first time we saw CGI coming into movies Yeah, I know you're talking about that That circle is that time And people develop into computers and people are learning how to become animators and make this crazy CGI and it's like all that is for not like the CD or a cassette I miss cassettes Well cassettes this will run around, but I don't think anyone will be spending the money on CGI development when you don't have to I watch these They're these like TikTok whatever videos. Yeah, and they're all done to like a tune and they teach you about something Have you ever seen these?

No, so like the last I watch one on records and they'll be like Explained to you with drawings how records are made and then the person is like singing it weird It's it's easier to like I guess for whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, but I've learned so many things I mean, you know how many people whenever I ask like a u.s. Uh geography question the only like oh so many people know the song To name all 50 states the u.s. Have a song. I mean, I don't know but we don't because we're Canadian But some canadians do and there's a lot of people that like are american but live here now and they just are like oh I know the song so and a song I just always found that like dude again.

How many little jingles do you remember from like your childhood that it works? Well, that's like usually advertising, right? No, but I'm just saying it works because it's like it sticks in your head. Yeah Yeah, I don't know if this is like I think it might I think it's more if you like if you're prof Saying to you instead of talk that you yeah, there's something to that like you you listen more.

I don't know I don't know there's something about it. I'll show you one of them and you'll see what I'm talking about Um, I think the big point or if there's something that was interesting about this podcast Site just the interaction of math and goni pinnies bear feet on joe Power move did you do that? Yeah, yeah, shut the fuck up Joe made a point of saying those are the first set of bare feet that have ever been like desk Yo, that's like really big alphanoon staking your claim. Yeah, you're in my state In my state in my city.

Yeah, so, you know Um, but uh, no, they had a discussion about posting the 10 commandments in the classroom. Yeah, but joke Which was another major moment because I think we just talked about that a week ago I don't know we could hold on but joe also came around and was like I understand why we don't do it I understand why we have a separation. Yeah, and well, isn't it kind of weird like your kids going into first grade and they're like Tell him don't covet your name your neighbor's wife That's so peculiar. It even happens without like a trans at the uh, it's the same thing.

Yeah, the argument against or for Yeah, I'm saying like if you're putting the 10 commandments, that's commandment. Well, we know right It's commandment whatever six or nine or whatever the fuck it is Don't covet your neighbor's wife is a weird thing to say to a fucking four-year-old But it's the it's right Yeah Where a condom is right to I'd be weird if I went into a class of six-year-old and was like don't forget to wear a condom that'd be fucking weird, right? That's the one name is well. I don't know because just interesting a some way That's like our is your argument.

We should teach kids to be good people because I agree with that a hundred percent I'm just I couldn't come out. I couldn't agree with that more I think we should teach kids to be good people the commandments around rephrase them write them into bullet points and do whatever the fuck you want But they come down to who is the arbitrary group that decides this But that's all board don't keep in mind. That's also why the founding fathers are like Keep it out of there committee to will know they're voted in presumably And I also find it weird that all these like founding father people are like well except for this one We can get we can get around this one because the founding fathers are like keep it separate Church and state and school get all that shit is separate for a reason We just want you to it's a place of learning has nothing to do with politics. No and religion We're not this is not religious state.

You can practice whatever you want here was an idea and now they're saying well No, we're a we are religious state. It's the state of Israel No, you're not seeing a lot of fucking Toras in classrooms, you know what I mean? They're not putting toras in the fucking hotel that's what they don't want us to be them Even though they were able to have that conversation civilly or disagree upon why it happened Well, I think there's an argument for both sides of it's a good thing to give people a moral structure It's a bad thing because it's a finger on the scale I'm gonna which way they're moral things. I'm there for hold on when my kid turns 16 I'm gonna sit him down and be like hey dude It's really shitty to fuck your neighbor's wife.

Just so you know, that's not cool But when he's eight, I don't think he needs to know that one I will just be like be a good person you may have to tell him after he does it I doubt it bangs the best friends girlfriend. I think you're forgetting these kids aren't fucking like no kids nowadays have sex The average 28-year-old is a virgin which is insane Um Joe said something in this I think it was this episode We're just right down Joe and underlying it and then what I wanted to talk about Joe and cash Patel He said um I had cash Patel on I knew he was lying But instead of pressing him and putting his feet to the fire and making him explain himself I just let the internet do the work. Yeah, that's not how this works. You know what I mean when Adam ruins Everything was on you didn't let the internet fix what he had a million people Like if you knew it's one thing to say, you know, I didn't realize and after I in retrospect I was like, oh fuck he was blatantly lying to my face But you can't say oh, I knew he was blatantly lying to my face But I thought yeah, I'll just let him talk and then the internet all sorted out apparently when you leave Quantico They tell you if you are like a four And you got approached by like an eight or hotter that they are most likely an agent of an of a four nation Cash Patel's girlfriend is a fucking smoke show 9.5.

Really? Yeah, and he just He just you saw him in front of congress there About the Epstein list that wasn't seen where we're at one point He just starts fucking ripping cash Patel starts ripping into one like you're the worst congressman. I've ever like This is so cool koi Booker cash. I don't know who it was in his defense like some of them.

Do you say I don't think you're long in this? Yeah The best is that the guy the head of the committee is Jim Jordan who's republican so you'll see him always like Try not to come for God or give them two cents time. Whatever. It's just the way Don't know about Jim Jordan is that a bunch of his family members were caught fucking kids in Ohio And he covered the whole thing up not only to cover the whole thing up He paid money to intimidate all the witnesses and the people that were coming forward So he's obviously not interested in like anyone knows who's on the Epstein file Well, I mean cash Patel couldn't have come across more fucking shady allegedly snore useless What a fucking plug like these are all the people and just the um He literally Contradicts himself every time he opens his mouth.

Yeah, there's no list. Okay, there is a list But Trump wasn't on it. Okay, Trump was on it and the guys like how many times was Trump on it? Well, I can't talk about that because it seals it a thousand Oh, so you do know that is it 500?

Well, I know it's not a thousand, but I don't know how many well, what information do you have? I mean, listen, I feel somewhat bad for him because I think he's a patsy I think they knew they're like we're gonna put in this internet sensation He's gonna be a total fuck up. We're gonna we're gonna get away with murder right now because a hundred percent And that's why matt that the very when he was on joe roger remember how I refused to call him the cia director Or the fbi director because he's not he's some guy that jumped planted in there So he can fucking do whatever the fuck he wanted I read the craziest article the other day Simon So because they're short on ice agents They he's looking at full bets because they're short on ice agents They had to go to other departments where people aren't quite trained to be police But they're in like some sort of policing department and most of the people they've plucked Uh, we're in charge of white color crime so like investigating financial fraud. Okay, weird Well, the point is is like right now they have all these people that should be looking at rich people Committing fraud those people have been moved to arresting Foreigners and nobody is watching the fun.

No one's really yeah and right now. There's no one watching so yeah So here's another thing camar like he's using the military To do his bidding on the streets. Well, or he's cleaning up the city like no no no either way though Cleaning up the city doing his bidding. He's using the military.

We didn't like that when they did it here, right? They did it just to clean up one type of person I guess yummy advocate. I think like we all thought and radical solutions have happened No, but I'm saying like the canceling of the free speech and at the same time using the military on the streets Like I'm pretty sure that's like the definition of Fascist fascism. Okay, so I guess it's I guess it's so much to kill him.

Just like If you could go back in time and kill Hitler, would you? No, some people would so those same people think it's good to kill the fascists. I know this is the weirdest argument dude That's how this happens when we're asking how do people get so crazy? They do stuff How does the Germans get so crazy if they have a Holocaust?

Why do we know nothing like we know everything about the charlie kurt shooter. We know nothing about the guy that shot trump Well, he's coming to try. Oh, yeah, because that's odd Well, I'm not saying that but I'm just saying like that's a theory It isn't odd I'm just I'm just pointing out the oddities that surround us right now like charlie kirk who is not in the political I mean he's a political speaker, but he's not in the government yet shot and we know everything about the guy that shot him I know nothing about the guy that shot trump. I don't know nothing about the guy the golf course that had the high-powered rifle I don't know that trials coming so I think they wanted to make sure that that nobody was talking about that trump thing because if Anybody looked too deep into it.

He worked for black rock We're gonna fall apart, you know, so easier to just kick it underneath the rug and Understand come on. I'm here's how I truly feel. I don't I'm not like fuck the left or the right fucking both to be honest I think if you're far right or far left you're fucking maniac there do all this is just so that we hate each other It's all so that billionaires back off. It's all so that billionaires.

Yes there. You know what hey fuck Yeah, bring back. That was the word we monkey No, I honestly like this is all just so that we hate each other there's nothing to do with anything other than just like let's Money think about this too. That shit in Nepal was no joke Real instruction and if you're a billionaire you had to be watching that shit if you're high up in government You had to be watching that shit you had to be watching a finance minister get dragged through the river by a bunch of angry fucking people You had to see that right so and already so replaced Why do you think billionaires are all trying to get to Mars and building giant bunkers in the fucking middle of the Las Vegas desert?

No, you know what they're actually building them is I read the city of New Zealand apparently New Zealand is the one spot where they think that if all the nukes Were to like launch at once New Zealand is the only place Even a problem. Let's rate this one and bang out Jordan Jensen as I'd love to get it. I give up a con here two and a half I thought that I thought the poem at the end was good. So I really find him a dullard for like a guy I like so much as an actor.

I just I love it. I love it. I love his wish a little draw I guess but there's nothing I like more than loving an act There's nothing I like more than loving an actor and then him turning out to be like a kickass dude Some guy you'd want to like hang out with and you're just like yes, finally like not everything's an illusion My favorite ever is when he's on between two ferns and Zach Galifian Akis goes when you were filming true detective with Woody Harrelson Did it ever occur to you guys that somewhere there was a hacky not being sacked? I give it a two we didn't get anything.

We didn't get the last I give it a one I really just like this episode. Did we rate the week we rated the week? We just got angry, but by the way c'mon. I don't give a fuck about Jimmy Kimmel.

I haven't watched Jimmy Kimmel show in I don't think anyone wanted Jimmy Kimmel No, I'm just more concerned about free speech I think I'm with you his show is on the verge of being canceled and if people really liked him like you said He could have started a podcast he could have done any number. What is it? Yeah, I'm trying to think of somebody you like That was shitty that wasn't the government doing it, but some would argue they I don't know I don't know people say friends and stuff on these channels and just consequences whether you agree that or not Can I just say one thing I'm just gonna say one thing in closing well You can hardly talk worse You used Janet Jackson as the first example and I just think that's a terrible example because that's such a big event that like There's so many eyes on it that you can't like Jimmy Kimmel like like Simon said the people watching Jimmy Kimmel watch Jimmy Kimmel I don't think a lot of right but like I said with the Janet Jackson thing happen fuck those people that don't want to see Janet's titty I agree with that too. Yeah, it's just it's ugly and It's just there's a huge difference between Janet Jackson's nipple slipping out and a preemptive thing that somebody said Point is if customers called in the station to complain to like Apparently exists because people get canceled all the time.

I assume that with the Janet Jackson. Yeah, we don't want to get back into this Yeah, let's just move on to this 2380 Jordan Jensen. Let's move on to this unfunny woman Wow, I knew that was gonna come up at some point in this podcast You never heard of her. No, she's talking about buying houses and apartments.

It's just amazing Clips of her podcast before she does it with That guy He's been on Rogan before he's got glasses Thank you Listen dude, I can tell you that like if you have a consistent hundred thousand people listening to your podcast And you're running three ads and running one podcast a week like yeah, that's pretty good fucking money What a country and it's not a lot of fucking like a hundred thousand. I mean it's a lot. Trust me. I can tell you Well, I don't think she's an overnight success, but I'd rather watch that finance and her podcast than like flagrant, you know I mean, it seems a lot more real than I love Rick Glassman Everything has that under the radar thing than history and then we get sick of it.

I think of a cycle Rick Glassman is hilarious Never get annoyed by him at all Yeah, sometimes he's like a Nathan for you So Jordan is exactly what she says she will get an opinion and die for it and switch in a second Which is which I think is a good call to have because she was like Chip me up, you know, she's she's embraced I think a lot more people are embracing tech than our fear of it being a bad thing But then by the time Joe explained to her the downside of it. She was sort of an attack She's super self-deprecating. I always love that She suffers from the girls are not funny thing which I mean, it's just not true I don't know even she suffers by the girls are not like she's not funny. Is that what you're saying?

I think she's funny if you see if she's funny, but it's like like she was saying it she's always be like it's funny in that You with your facial expression, you communicate the sarcasm of the joke You know what I mean? Like the second after you do in the side look or whatever it is like that really sells it She's saying she works when she's opening for Louie or Tom Life she's having all the best to her. Um, but yeah, it seemed like this sort of a Level of comedy that she agrees with everything Joe says. I would be surprised if I fucked up for this episode She's in Joe's league like you're making it seem like she's like a knockout.

She's like a normal normal girl Well, I don't know a couple minutes in the sauna isolation rule knows you can't see anything in there quick duck in the cold pink get those nipples hurt and You guys aren't going to watch her Fuck Joe. No on Netflix No, I know I watch it. I watch it. I thought she's very similar to another female comic The self-deprecation stuff.

There's a new one Netflix right now called maybe white rabbit. Yeah with Jason Ben ballers in it Which is a lot of the jeweler. Yeah, you know some episode walk in his Tesla. Yeah that one.

Yeah. I took I spoke a lot of weed Yeah, Friday off to watch that just took Friday off to watch my ramen I was just it's nice watching Jude Law go bald. That's all I gotta say. Well, it's why is that nice I think he's so beautiful.

I don't wish it on you. You're like me. You're the average man I didn't wish anything on you, but Jude Law is too pretty. I think it's like Ryan Ron's one I'm trying to hold his accent together.

It's too much of a distraction from the rest of the show and they do just Want too many time on shuffles They go from two weeks to three weeks to two weeks. Oh, it's one of those I forget where it is But I mean I was smoking a lot of weed in the show, but there was a point like wait Do they know any you're just like you're confused because the the show starts. I mean Jamie's you get it It really blew me away. It's the show starts with this heist.

Yeah, I saw that I saw the heist Yeah, then it goes two weeks ago. Yeah, so you're now the restaurant working two weeks up into that point Yeah, but then it's going back back to just how we even got like it just and then I think episode seven as you're both I stuff out goes into the well, what's this character's deal? What's their perspective on it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, which if it's done right ties it all together.

I just got really confused and maybe I'm offended Did you watch call me offended? Did you watch kaleidoscope? No, that's how we could choose how it ended Yeah, well not how it ended. You just choose.

Yeah, everyone's a color right and everyone has their own. Yeah, you can watch it in any order Yeah, what did you find it? I mean, it's kind of a cool premise, but the show wasn't back. Yeah, yeah for execution But like it's like band or snatch Band or snatch that was the black mirror the choose your own adventure black mirror.

Yeah. No, I mean, it's too much of a gimmick Yeah, it was like you're probably too young for this But there used to be a show on TV and you could get like a gun and a Bress plate for it and you could shoot at the TV. It was like a laser tag type of thing. You remember that come our laser tag No, you shot at the TV Television show.

Oh, no, no, I've got you specifically duck hunt. I don't know what you're talking about I don't remember are you mad at me because I'm too. No, I'm mad at him because he doesn't know what I'm talking about But I'm feeling he's just not even trying to remember the duck out have a gun yes That was Nintendo. Yeah, this is a television program.

Yeah, that came on a VHS or something No, it was just on TV And you tune in and you had a it was like a laser tag vest yeah and a laser tag gun But there'd be times in the show where you could like shoot the screen. That's pretty cool. That's a bit of special test Test bar since we're really avoiding I Jordan Jensen all the interesting things although I have a follow-up question after that that she talked about What about you get universal basic income for one year? What's the income is it the highest brackets?

Yeah, one year to make the best of it then like a one year where I'm making like three million dollars Oh, no, I said the highest $60,000. Why just one year? What's $60,000 gonna do because that's what every refugee that comes can against They get one house now. I know I know Have you ever got caught having sex by your parents Jordan said it happened more than once to her I Had sex with a girl once and I was crashing my parents house and I she left in the morning and met my mom that way Oh, that's happened a ton of time I remember my mom was like My mom was like quite the girl you had over last night.

I was like what and she was like bill was up all night Oh, she they heard you sweet. Yeah, they were like we call it a screamer. They heard Matt screaming. Oh, no, and then then they The funniest was I was like they're gone You can go and she leaves and then she texted me and she was like your entire family like 18 people are on the front like porch When I want to leave that's a walk of shame.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, pretty bad.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's great Nope Mars like another kid you never have sex again, that's for sure.

Well, no, you're never having some strange girl leave That's a real awkward walking shave. She's got a walk past Charlie America. Yeah, that would be awkward Oh, that would be awkward, but this is sort of brutal real comedy Jordan Johnson gets into so I think that's a good representative of Let's pretend to talk about it essential listening another one. I could see justifiably bumping Whitney web for sure No doubt about it another Over the course of this whole week was the boy.

I totally understand was this whole week was devoid of The usual hot button annoying topics of discussion. Yeah, but there's some weeks where it's I don't know It's just it's odd timing. That's all but yeah, I agree with you normally we like if this was during covid and it was just three guests and nothing No covid came out. No, yeah, none of that came off.

But right now, it's like You kind of helped get us into this mess Joe. So you get some answers for us. That'd be sick. Well, no we now know like this is this is This everything ended when Joe got hired by Spotify.

We are so far away from this podcast when the sponsor was flashlight Yeah, and listen He was actually the Matthew McConaughey episode or no, no Is this one is this one just talking about conversations that go nowhere and Joe with all these? I've said stop. We don't want to air that like how much of that there is like and again They weren't too. I thought they were well.

No one is portrayed everyone is presenting as they want you to pursue a resume What year did the Joe Rogan show start? 20 2009. Oh that early. Yeah.

Wow. Can I get a can I get a 20 or 2009 or 2012? I thought it was 2012. I think it's 2009 Come on.

I'm working on Jamie Because it was the show was out before I started dating Mary and we've been together Because I have a 24th 2009 Brian red band and Joe with the fuzzy it was on like you stream. Okay. Okay, so that doesn't line up with my theory 16 years That's not overnight But because I think that that whole god particle thing with the CERN collider like that probably did rewrite Like we were heading in one direction and it did one of those schisms, you know Yeah, all of a sudden we got like Trump as president and all these weird things Joe as the number one podcaster in the world It doesn't make sense. It's starting 2009 But I guess it could have just been a nothing podcast with snowflakes It really hasn't been in New York rise from where was Amy Schumer and them in the rooms in just the same old Why like the sense that we're having this conversation.

It doesn't even matter. This doesn't but too Bigger than Kimmel bigger than take a step back a real step back from yourself. Okay. Yeah, and think about Joe Rogan Who he was where he started.

Yeah where he is now. It's insane. It doesn't make sense It doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make any sense and kind of in the same way where you were like with The blink 182 guy and the aliens are like why why are you yeah?

And if it had worked and he had ended up being like the spokesman for all alien government relations from now until all time That would be like comparing him to Joe because you know you're this yeah, no Fucking comedian and you end up being the guy who gets Trump elected like it's fucking nuts It's nuts. It doesn't make any sense. You should be having dinner with Peter Thiel. CERN.

This is what i'm telling you You'd think to Joe like after all this Epstein shit, I would be real careful about who he'll fuck I had dinner with Yeah, no shit. Like I would have been on the security tip. Joe feels like he has zero He said it again in one of these episodes. He's like I don't have to watch what I say.

I'm just I go out there Like no, I think you have like you're the biggest He also found a sweet way of defending Peter Thiel's anti-Christ take where he was like Listen this guy just thinks a lot before he speaks and so like when you ask him if humanity should exist Like of course it's gonna take a minute and a half to say maybe of course it's gonna end with the anti-Christ What are you talking about? What are you talking about? The fact that he's the smartest guy in the world presumably and his main focus is The anti-Christ um gods enemy like this is weird. Yeah, where did that come from?

It's fucking weird. It is weird Well again, it should just be a snap answer. I the amount of guys rich guys who end up like Forking over a shit ton of cash to like build a doomsday clock in a mountain or you know what i'm saying like all so fucking weird There's always some weird like uh old tiny religious tie-in Like it reminds me of Hitler and the you know 20% of his army goes to find the holy grail like There's just way more to it obviously that we as the common folk don't understand Yeah, because these guys are spending a lot of and i'll go back to like persons the guy who started the rocket project and like Their main goal wasn't to like get man to the moon It was to like bring back Lilith from the day in some giant ceremony that involves sending rockets to the moon Yeah What about which something we never really dove into but uh the lack there of the rogan bump Some people have taken the rogan bump and run within some people have taken rogan bumps I think it's all but what's that based on i think it's how you are on your episode Yeah, it's how good your episode does right because Well, let's are you interesting like some people come on with a very interesting book But they themselves are dull as shit And then there's other people who just like like listen you can try to cram on you to franco Wherever the fuck her name is down. Thank you.

You can try to cram her down our throat as much as you want My bad on any different on any differentos name. Yeah, no, but you know what i mean like you i don't know man I just think it's interesting. No, it is interesting when you think about it like susan santos Yeah, like joe has done everything in his power to get this woman And joe's the only person likes all of her after me by the way You know, he does what if you have a guy like, you know chibi hedgix All of her empathy that's music no one likes all of her But think about like this too like you're forgetting that when we say we're like joe's the biggest podcast in the world We are doing that based on numbers given to us So maybe he's not the biggest part. Well, what i'm saying is very simply if you're let's say you're the ci You're the ci and you have this useful idiot that you want to prop up to the top You just go to all the tech companies that you already work with and you say bump this guy's numbers up so that he's getting 14 million downloads every episode so that he's the biggest and then eventually we'll get people in there They'll be saying stuff we want everyone to hear That's absolutely true, but We have seen him make some people so we do know he has no But that goes back to my point where it's like they push that episode because they're like we want this person To be like it doesn't stop at we've done it just for joe It's like we push the episodes where we want people to see them and the one where like the woman talks about all the nukes Like oh that one got a million downloads because we didn't push that one.

That's interesting because I don't think personally I don't think that joe is a ci agent, but it wouldn't surprise me as a useful idiot. Well because he's very um He's not a humble guy joe, you know what i mean and he wasn't as a young man either He was very uh, well just look at the whole carless mancy a thing and like I just he obviously wanted to be the center of attention. He was I mean I disagree with you on the carless mancy a thing like I don't think that was an attention getting maneuver. You don't I mean not really he thought it was justice.

Yeah, he was just a street justice Simon I also think this is just because of the internet couldn't have been that motivation to hear me out too Ari at that point is like a door guy at the store and carless mancy is the biggest guy in the world And joe is friends with Ari the door guy and he's like this fucking guy is stealing like the door guy's funny and he could have a career Yeah, and instead this ass was I was For sure. That's one area where I definitely give joe props like he didn't have to do that He didn't know that was probably before the cia got involved in again. I'm just saying useful I'm famous. I'm not sitting here saying I think joe is this fucking I'm just saying that like mike baker We have this conversation all the time like there's no reason for joe to be like this is my cia guy And he gives me the goods like dude, you're smarter than that.

I know you're smarter than that Yeah, again, he's his answer to that will be well I have my baker on and the internet all sorted out. Yeah, I guess yeah, are we done with Jordan jensen? Yeah, I wish I wish I wish I had more but no, I'm glad you don't thank you for not i give her three and a half Well, that's tomorrow's trying to fuck I'll give the podcast a two. I was gonna say it too.

No disrespect to her. I just like this week's done Oh, it was so bad like again when you can happen you have the whole world at your fingertips as far as people that could give us some information Oh, sorry. He's on vacation. That's the that's the past we're gonna give him He's on the entertainment purposes.

These are all stored episodes not entertaining anymore. Whatever fine. All right Well, that's it. We're gonna take a break.

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Can we get a name or number? Oh my god. He's so jealous 2381 Taylor Kitch Good old Canadian fucking Canadian is fuck boy a fucking rates Taylor Kitch That was something he was actually a hockey player. Well, you could tell but then he got injured And he got into modeling into New York City and the rest of history Oh, you really did the deep dive what's one interesting thing about him is he's um Movie star, but never did the LA thing like he said he was not he all that time all the movies You've seen him and he was an awesome.

I like him in everything I've seen him and I liked him as riggins in friday night lights. That was did you really I did I'm one of my favorite shows friday night. Yeah, I know that you like the show But did you really like him because I found his performance in it to be I don't know I mean it was his first role. Okay.

It wasn't like his best work. Okay. No, he was good He was fine and then uh lo and survivor. He's good He was good one survivor and I don't remember john carte I don't remember it.

I'd like to rewatch it My parents favorite movie of all time. That was like the only movie at our cottage. Do you remember? John Carter.

Yeah, my parents loved it. I never watched it So it lost Disney so much money. Yeah, why? I was just a big box office, but I think it was like heavy on special effects Like it's a cool story.

John Carter is like it's a science fiction novel. Is it? I'm pretty sure we got this out little I know that it's not a horrible movie. It's pretty epic when it when was the last time you watched it This year.

Yeah, I saw it on. Yeah. No, I can't remember lost. It just didn't change the world like it was supposed to It was a big epic like apocalypto huge budget.

I remember he jumped funny That was one of the things in the movie where it just came came off as like a de Narrow's kick Like the kick it was non believable. I don't notice but he starts right off by telling a story about I was deer hunting Didn't kill the deer and I do So he sort of admitted that he wasn't the greatest hunter But in that moment I realized if it all goes south and I get my hands on a gun to defend myself Try to get I'm fucked for like Do you feel that way? Yep At least he for acting took shooting these these skills that do feel he's better off than you are better equipped as a Canadian he's a bit better off of here There's just this thing that is um the world is so safe We don't need any of these skills or or stuff But I don't know how I stuff. I'm glad I know how to skin a deer and do all the things Yeah, it is.

Yeah, I've seen you do it. Yeah, but do you think you defend your homestead with a gun? It's how many people? You don't know.

I mean, that's got your camera system set up and like a whole insurrection of like Hamas Yeah, yeah, I come out even the most well-armed person isn't gonna fight off a militia, right? You need your own militia. Yeah, like no To shoot myself or just I think just not being I thought you weren't even taking a chance I thought you were just taking the motorcycle to the top of the parking garage because I have no other skills And it makes it I think you'd surprise yourself Kumar if you had to survive in the apocalypse I think you'd do better than you think you would do you've already I you've already set up an industry that you're unaware of you just collect all the motorcycles around the city bring them out of the top Of the garage and pay people the price to kill themselves He's you're a pretty resourceful for like a discount maids You know how to like chop wood and you could like build something if you had to you know how to paint Not that that comes in real handy in the apocalypse. Exactly.

So you might want a nice painted living room Maybe you want a good back spot. It appears the opus is america prime evil Yeah, it's such a good show and I thought it was weird when they're talking about when you see him and all those scars in the back You know he's been through something. It's like, well, you know the makeup artist is gonna put his eyes on a back That doesn't really but it seemed like joe was saying the character. He's playing.

I don't know And maybe that's just a good immersion I mean that was one of those movies that you like can really Get into what's in a movie. Yeah, the series I'm just saying it you get absorbed into it. It's Like I said, it was so grimy like it was dark and dingy It didn't seem like a holly like they didn't hollywood glamor it up Like when you were in the the guy that sold the place to bring him young when you were in his like little shit Shack it was like disgusting and just like yeah, it reminded me of deadwood in that regard Yeah, like they didn't try and but even then deadwood even if you compare deadwood to that dead would even seem like glamorous and glitzy Like Some of it was some of it was some of it. No, I get it.

I'm the asian guy who was feeding people the hogs obviously Spoiler alert. I thought deadwood was the one where they go in the bodies. It's android or something. No, you're talking about west world Yeah, with timothy all the fat my guy.

So it's very also interesting that something talked about a lot. He played David Kresh. Yeah, never saw that one. Yeah me either and to get in that character I first I thought they were talking about for somebody's a dollar.

Mm-hmm who played dog or two guys like dollar guy But it was this idea of playing this bad. Do you like a meal Hirsch? I don't I find I find his yeah I kind of do like him. He looks like a piece of shit that I don't with me Yeah, but when he's acting he has a disdain for it sort of he doesn't want to be there Somewhere else yeah like that waiter that was abused I find if we jump around movies back to love survivor.

So it's a meal Hirsch Kurt Wahlberg Mark Wahlberg and that other guy. He's too intense sometimes the other guy Ben Ben whatever his name foster And foster he gets intense. Well, and I he's got a badness to him. So like he looks a good guy He comes across as a bad guy.

I don't know well that I guess that's still a good um acting or maybe he's just No act that he would be believable as a good cause it is kind of always just feel like he's the bad guy Jumping back to load survivor if you're up there in the woods like Fear but it really happened. That's crazy how they did that. They're all the set watching like yeah, I guess that's it's just Subrena. No, but they would say they there was no script to that part in the movie He was saying that they just the bad guys were the seals And they would chase them.

It was like a live Except no situation. No, nobody's gonna kill anyone. Where's the they were getting smoothies on set. He said it's like We're the real situation.

They did die and it was really sad. Oh, that's bad. I don't like what you're doing here It's the whole like I think they talk nobody else has any um Remorse for people getting killed. No, I think they talked about it in the episode It's just it's sort of uh, it's more solemn We're doing a true story.

Whatever it is representing something people who are connected there It's a different process than we're just making a movie. We're gonna try to make a lot of money and maybe you want to Oscar Which all for this big pretend thing. It's just it's just interesting. I thought did you like long survivor I did it's sort of like a horror movie, right?

A horror movie Well, just the You're rooting for these guys to get out of there. They're getting surrounded. It's just the intensity of the situation It's an action movie. It's based on true story.

I guess it's just that that no hope It's a war movie. Yeah, I mean, it's a new age war. It's a stretch for me to call it a horror movie, but it just um is a Full metal jacket We never talked about that last week. Is that actually the best horror movie?

I think what is not the one with Joker? Yes, the reporter. Yeah, nothing and I think what works for full metal jacket is it's 90 minutes So it's shorter than the other movie? It goes by, you know, you've got well, the whole beginning is all There's actually not that much war in it, right?

Because so much has taken up by the boot camp. Just the uh machination and uh how they get these guys into yours And that's why band of brothers is so amazing because it's this amazing war epic and the first three episodes are boot camp And then the last 10 episodes are war, but it also just has a luxury of being a series And that's why it's better to do it like that than it is, you know, well, um tour duty Do you remember tour duty sitting by the dock of the bay? Is that uh, I see right now. That's right.

Oh, that's right. Yes. Yes, you try to beach Trying to be out these are weekly It's crazy that we were watching them because mash was one thing I'd like to go back and watch both of those series because I don't remember them at all We'll try to beach was a hospital in the hospital and it was just war it was a weekly war show I totally don't remember that I know it existed, but I don't remember it was the I think it was my favorite show that's so crazy How we're watching these war shows the vmm war and it like I said many times thinking well, this will never happen again This show is on to show the horrors of war the misinformation and based on this we'll never fight again, but here we are I can't remember any of the actors on the show, but it was the show to me Really you watched it live every week or you're watching reruns in 1987 That's when it came out in 87. Yeah I remember the theme song for sure great theme song for the beginning of a war show But I cannot tell one star from it.

I was watching like Knight Rider Knight Rider was a huge show anything. Well, how about that because it's just an AI car. Yeah, it's a self-driving car But american, but that now exists american self-driving car in slow motion compared to I mean, I'm sure there's something much better somewhere else Yeah, no, I mean that was such a novel concept when that show came out a car that could drive itself Did you find Taylor Kitch's ability to talk to the third person endearing or annoying? Um When was he talking to him a third?

Oh, you got this kid you got to do this. Oh, yeah, yeah No, he reminded me of his character on Friday night lights Because that's something Riggins would do. Come on Riggins get your shit together Riggins Well, then we have this thing of you bring these characters in your life and then Everybody becomes an amalgamation of all the people they played And I wonder too if like, you know, if you just play the same character for so long How much that like affects the rest of your acting and do we actually do any tests on the psychology of becoming an actor And what it does to you pretending to be all these different people? Yeah, they're all psychobaths But that's why it's nice when you meet a guy like Taylor Kitch who seems kind of down to earth But I don't know the as soon as somebody tells me that they've never done any drugs I get very wary but he smokes.

I'm weird. He said like twice in his life. He went in depth I mean, I don't know if his sister said please tell the world Probably struggles, but he went on and he did go pretty hard. No, and if all that it's true You could see why he would not be into drugs.

Yeah, no, but even just growing up in his dad Whatever who am I to say? Yeah, the bag gooey who's not calling? I mean, you would think the bagpipes alone would drive you to drugs 100% the hardest drugs there Oh my god, I'd be ripped on heroin all day. You have to be naughty To be able to tolerate the bagpipes make it stop there the bagpipes are so there's like I up at our cottage who his thing is the accordion So they'll be like an event and he'll pull out there and you're just like dude not the time where there's no time Unless you're at october fest.

No, even there's no time or place That's how I feel about the bagpipes like unless you're at a bagpipe convention or something. Maybe a funeral But even though there's there's a time in place. There's a time and place for a lazy grace out of bagpipe Come are you anti-kilt? Come on because that's like the very first cross-dressing.

No, I'm Scottish so So you're into bull kilt bull kilt Full kilt you've worn a kilt before Nope You go commando you go commando on you go commando under the kilt I haven't worn a lot of traditional Moroccan wear either. I'm a traitor to both sides But you don't have any interest in like going and spending your you cook your haggis in a tagine Did you see he was also a battleship, which is a big bomb I don't ship and jar carton Big fucking surprise that then trying to make a board game into a and do a movie was a giant flop most traps during Monopoly starring fucking Picard as Byborn a monopoly man. That was a really interesting choice for him for monopoly man for Taylor kids to do that movie Oh, yeah Again, I don't think he was having a super successful career at that point. He was coming off of john Carter He has to do something big a big blockbuster And neither of you guys saw the bank club.

No, because that's interesting the aspect of the war journalists So trauma they go through. Mm-hmm. Interesting. Just dying inside seeing atrocities and stuff Well, that brings us back to joker In a full metal jacket.

We forgot to talk about full metal jacket last week. We were talking about the war movies He was the photographer. Wasn't he? I mean, I don't know if you guys know this but there was not too much There was a famous photograph of this guy was in like, uh, I don't know self-suiting I'm making up a country.

I don't know where he was, but he was there covering, um, the famine And when he landed all the UN people all the all the people that were there for aid were given specific They're like you can't um You can spread disease and you can kill these people very easily so you can't ever touch like don't get involved If you see someone you can't touch anyone don't get involved just don't you can't and so this guy takes a photo of One of people it's this photo, but it's a photo of like an emaciated baby Crawling in the desert and there's a vulture rate to kill himself Yeah, so again back to kamars like there's some things you see that you're that just stay with you forever I assume if you're a you know a photographer of war, probably yeah, I can't imagine what he's a correspondent for stars and stripes Which is the internal this is Matthew Modine joker's role. Yeah, so that's still be a propaganda machine In some degree or other. Yeah, but he seemed not like a company man So I imagine he was taking pictures that you know Well, I think most of them are only company men till they get to the the job Because everything's old is a team and everything and when they get to the horrors or they the dysfunction of whether it's going to rock or Afghanistan or what are we doing here? Everyone finds but I mean tell a pitch was a lot of movies.

So we should be able to do what other movies were it was again Because now that I think about it, I haven't really seen him in that much. Have you seen everything Peter Berg has done? Basically snakes on a plane. I think Peter Berg.

He was in snakes on a plane. Yeah, he played One of snakes Which I missed the the session where Kyle was the worst name my people named Kyle are such an asshole But it's a common thing it is very true though. Like I know only a couple of Kyle's and Not great people. Well, you've all seen low survivor, right?

Not not great people. Just a certain type of people It's the movie game where man Simon go ahead to find out what your movie came out How much it cost to make you and how much I made the box office this week? We're doing low survivor Starring Mark Wahlberg, Taylor Kitch, Emil Hirsch, Ben Foster, and Eric Bann. I love these and Eric Bann strong sense of type Simon have a year yet?

Mm-hmm. Yeah, what year do you have? 2018. It's a 2013.

Wow, we're in play 2013 man. Mmm Simon thought came out last week. I don't think 2018 is last week. It's seven years ago typical Time is weird special with covid.

I find that the last 15 years are very tough to gauge like when what was what? When who was who and what was what? You have anything else Simon? Are you ready?

There's a lot of dead air. Okay. Yeah, I'm ready I think it cost 36 million and it made 276. I said it cost 41 million and it made 170 I think I think we've done this week before budget 40 million.

Oh, fuck. Yeah. Wow box office 154.8. That's a win Sweet, which turned over for sweeps everybody Join that page on now.

We're gonna talk about Method man got the inspiration for his song. I'm on other things So did you like did I ask you already? If you liked him talking with their person? If I liked him talking to the person.

Simon didn't care for it. I was with Ben. Oh, no. Come on.

I was sort of on the fence No, Matt doesn't like it either. But does Matt say do better Matt when you're playing games? Okay. So I will say to myself.

Come on Matt Well, I'll say that too. That's not referring to yourself in the third person This is me talking to myself. You really fucked up. That would be a little different I do enjoy people who can get to that third person the rock I think you have to be successful.

Yeah, because the the rock the failing third person your uh, propping yourself up Matt can't find a job. Tomorrow's never been married. Oh my god And none of us ever got a desire to box I very much wanted to box and then it turns out you have to skip a lot. It's like the first two months.

It's just skipping and I have like uh Like a skip retardedness to me. I just I can't jump rope, huh? I can jump rope. I can't Boxing jump rope.

It's like different. You know, you see what I'm doing with my feet. Yeah, and I'm doing it with my arms I can do like, you know, I can skip skip. Yeah, you just can't I'm pretty good at like double Dutch How are you?

I can twirl a mean double Dutch. Do you believe that you can twirl a mean double Dutch? I used to be able to double Dutch. I can definitely do the I could be the guy at the rope Anyone can fucking no, no, that also thinks his pairs of plums.

Tell me when your birthday comes jump into the middle Matt get in the middle I believe what No, I don't feel a bit with so much better. Yeah, it's true. Gativity. Thank you.

Vichy to see Camar, if I was in that shoes, I would have been doing some of this I could have seen you on the table doing the hand foot thing Yeah, no, I could have totally seen Simon doing the hand foot thing on the table 100 But you're right. I don't know what I was thinking or at least pantom on you. Yeah, I really fucked the bit up I'm so sorry every now and again in uh elementary school. We Put down the dodgeball and pick up the skipping rope, you know, of course everyone did didn't they?

I don't know Did they? I felt like it. So do you think just because his background or is Joe in his Hollywood era? Yeah, Joe is catering to some weird special.

That makes sense I honestly feel like it sounds weird, but it feels like he got a call that was like You're not having anyone of substance on for the next like two months. We don't need you talking about anything right now Because how many like dude we've had to like during covid He wasn't shy of bringing on all covid experts that agree with him and right now He's like again, Whitney web is actively out there saying I think I'm being stopped from going on Joe Rogan He's like no, she's not but we have do have Taylor Kitch and Johnny Depp You make a really good point Matt when it was something he wanted to talk about oh we have no problem The whole cast of characters on and I don't care It says show do what you want but like you he spent enough time talking about this Epstein thing that it feels like it's something He would want to get to the bottom of two kids Epstein for sure But just the whole like he doesn't talk about Trump very much anymore because he's instrumental jumping there And I don't think he likes where things have ended up Well, we'll find out if he comes back with her without an help I wonder if he'll have Trump on again Unless Trump needs to be on again Well, I think he's in his Hollywood era. I mean, I hate it I mean come on the numbers agree with you. It seems like it's all Hollywood stars lately Which is ironic too because he's constantly like hollywood's full of vapid shitheads who don't really care about anything and they're all just on the left And then but I think that is the key to Taylor Kitch's success is a really good looking guy I don't need to live in Montana about that life.

Yeah, yeah As a hockey player who just used physical and aggressive and stuff Listen, I also thought this was going to be three hours of like hunting talk the way it started And so for them not to spend the whole three hours on what hunting was very refreshing Talk about they only talk about hunting for the first like 20 minutes A lot of us is addiction and drugs and stuff his dad. I'm getting into a character to leave it behind How do you do that? They actually talked about this also felt like he's like an excited kid And he was leaving the conversation like Joe wasn't really leading the conversation He was talking a lot about his like his method. Yeah, and sometimes I don't know I hear these actors talking about like It was too heavy and I had to like quit like what are you talking about?

Well, they got so you're playing a character. You're not actually becoming fucking There will be blood um apparently the kid the kid who played the kid you know that gets his face in the mud You know when there will be blood when Daniel they lose a smashing the kid's face in the mud Yeah, the original actor they filmed that that was one of the first scenes they filmed and he was like I'm not doing this with this guy That's like broad in that kid. Oh, I see some people. It's like yeah I can not do this with a maniac.

I mean over at Gary Oldman slucking a coffin before filming Dracula Some people take that Method acting very seriously. Yeah, no, I have no problem with the method acting I guess it's just the like I think it's weird not being able to draw a line between the acting and your actual life like I'm with you you're not like It's not a spell Yeah, I agree It's just actors taking themselves too seriously and this guy was guilty of that unfortunately I think you have to To be a great actor Well, if you want to make it a holiday, you got to take it seriously You have to be really good at this and your process works But here it is now I realize it so Joe was talking on this episode of Charlie Sheen the ice cube Up the ass I just keep falling asleep on set and then also um He told all the stories from the documentary Yeah, like it wasn't from our conversation. He told the exact story from the documentary Which I just felt was weird And I don't even know why I think that's weird. Well, no, it makes him seem um Distant genuine Like you're just going on to every podcast and telling the exact same stories from your documentary Yeah, I mean, I think again, that's um Par for the course.

No, it's gross like I've seen it. I've seen it like three podcasts different not Charlie Sheen someone else the same stories No, I agree. I just I find it gross. I find it gross Like go on.

They're on a podcast. You're not there to like do bits and routines. Well, especially Charlie Sheen It's like you must have a million stories. It can't just be these eight stories Yeah, and that's why I thought it was cool when they were talking about the apocalypse now.

Did they talk about that a lot in the documentary? No, him being on the set of apocalypse now All of that was more genuine They didn't bring that up and he talked about him being in this podcast being on apocalypse now That was from the podcast and 10 years later being on platoon and how the hell are you gonna have any sense about which he should have talked about He should have said that to Charlie. I think he did you think he did I don't think any of that was in the documentary. So I'm actually calling myself Isn't it interesting that Tom Behringen Tom Behringer was in both platoon and major league with Charlie Sheen They're all the same team of course just because they played enemies in the movie.

They're having a great time after well They weren't enemies in Major League. No, but we're definitely energy enemies in platoon. But you as a kid watch a platoon and then you see major How could they be the same room because you almost killed a lie platoon takes a real quick turn at the end there, right? It's not the most amazing movie.

No, it's not the most amazing movie now that I think it's kind of like a really weak Copy of apocalypse now with Kurtz, but that's like this build up the whole time That's the whole point is that you know this guy has gone crazy But you never see him until right at the end and it's the opposite because I think it up in a platoon is everyone's just trying to get out Well, everybody has their own thing going try to get home to foe. He's a he has a spot spot. That's weird And that's right again. Go figure not to snap perfect.

Thank god. You're watching well. Maybe he didn't go to bounds. Let's wait and see I hope everyone's having a fantastic because now I want to know because you're right the ball did keep going So what happened here?

Is he down? Is he out? Oh, he's definitely out of bounds where I can't see his feet Well, there's a way he ran right out of bounds And the clock is still running. Come on.

Why? I That's weird. Okay. Anyway, sorry.

He was also a painkiller. Who is he in pain? Yeah, he was the guy with the back problem Remember he got his back hurt at the he was the audible riggins You're using yeah riggins Taylor pitch. Yeah, he was the auto repair guy who had his back hurt and he ended up hooked on I don't remember that.

I remember being amazing, but I don't remember the day-to-day details of it I don't remember the cunning's and goings. Yeah, there's just And how many people have been on Joe Rogan though? That's a good question. How many people do you think have been on Joe Rogan?

How many different people have been on Joe Rogan? How many episodes have there been? 2,300, 2,400 is all we're at. So I would think even more probably like 1,700 people.

I said 15 so 1850 Because there's only so many people who have been on twice, right? I guess. Yeah, well brennicholts don't 50 times I mean, that's true. That's like a third.

Yeah, 1,217 different people. Oh, you're closest Don't you feel special? I don't know. I didn't win anything.

There's no award for this. But we've learned nothing From Joe Rogan. I mean, I I'm sure there are people out there younger in positions who are doing I've learned cold plunge every day. I've learned plenty about Joe Rogan about Joe Rogan No about other people on Joe Rogan.

You know what I mean? Life culture learned plenty of information. Yeah, I like to keep I like to keep my fucking mouth shut in public It hasn't been a waste self-censorship. It's just a shame that it's Become so weird Commercialized.

I mean, I think that's the thing I never would have thought that he'd have Charlie Sheen, Matthew McConaughey back to back You know given Sunday. Nope There really is no longer anyone out there either that he hasn't had on that he hasn't had on or that it's like Mick Jagger. Yeah, I mean, there are of course there's still people. No, no, I'm just Kanye West.

He's had Elon Musk. He's had Steve Tyler. He's had Robert Downey Jr. He's had Edward Norton.

He's had The biggest scientists. He's not yeah. No, you're right. Come on.

He's hit every I guess I guess the people who could be interesting would be say Bill Gates George Soros. So you want a bunch of millionaire or billionaires? A bunch of pedophiles. Bring on all the people Sad Tulsi's had Well, that's it.

That's a good question. If you can have any guest. Who would it be? It's a question.

We ask all the time Leonardo Caprio. Elaine Maxwell. Wow, out of prison onto the Joe Rogan show. He'd have to do that one by Skype, I guess.

Well, and again, we were blessed that we didn't know how amazing it was when this was a live thing. That was that was the end of the innocence. Oh, Jeff Meldrum died. He was the big foot guy who was on Rogan.

So that means just big foot. No, I'm just Did they kill him? No, no, no. Did you watch that?

Did you watch the alien thing? Yes, I did. Yeah. Yeah.

I don't It's all cool. I mean, obviously you haven't seen the hellfire misleading. No, I know but I just I hate those fucking infrared cameras The army videos like I did you could be showing me anything But in that video just it is interesting. So it looks like the hellfire missile hits it and then goes kind of off course a little bit That's funny.

I thought it just looked like it just demolished it's something a jacks from the UFO these like three they look like little mushrooms and then they keep following it So it's like it got hit and it has these three or these whatever things that come out to protect it You know what I'm saying? I mean our jets have that Do they they have drones? Well, no, but like for example, they have a flare that again It's we're talking about not the same technology, but rudimentary like they're calling it a marsupial That's what the army is calling it because it's like a you know a koala with its babies and its pouch, you know Interesting. Yeah, but like I like I said, I just I saw this video.

I don't know if it's fake or what the fuck it's taken from a plane. Yeah No, not a jet People carrying plane. Okay. Yeah commercial plane.

Yeah, and there's a fucking UFO like a you can see it It's like a disc type of thing, you know, and it's just out there and then it And blast away. It's like it's an amazing video. That's the type of video I want. It might be AI Okay, I was really well done.

I have no idea, but like that's what I need right now I can't handle these army videos. They join me fucking crazy It just means nothing to me. No They need to do anything to me. They know nothing to me.

I like them and I find them all really interesting But like that they don't move the needle for me anymore. Simon's on the post going I've liked the post and in the comments he's going just so you know this has not moved the needle for me And I don't I don't care for these military videos worst military video ever But if you could go back 10 years Yeah, and all this was just a close one second Could all everything come up all the videos. Yeah, they could have released every half the way They could have released everything 20 years ago. None of it would have made a goddamn difference They don't have the They don't for the normal person They like if I'm bored of the the navy videos Like your parents aren't gonna give a fuck.

You know what I mean? Yeah, we need something that's gonna move the needle for bill. It's true. That is what we're looking for my dad You know what I mean?

Like the these educated Yes, I'm just gonna make her stand up and go. I cannot I cannot deny this. I cannot deny this. We're landing believers Yeah, we need a mothership over the White House.

We need a I don't even know and I guess a tic-tac doesn't move the needle anymore because we know that it was not But I will say yeah It being made by Lockheed Martin doesn't mean that They weren't reverse engineering a down to UFO. Of course It just means that that one that they have a favor talking about was a Military one. Yeah, it can be both. Are we done with this?

Well, I just wanted to give our Canadian brother All the good time he has even though he now calls us home, Montana I'm sure it's very similar to you said you came into 40 million dollars. You'd move to one Illustration all Canadians live in America, especially ones that say Canada is so great and we're defending name to right now like Myers Where's he live? New York City? Okay, the most the most democratic place in the world So that's a tough that's a pretty shitty example, but okay, these people saying they all live in America You have such a weird view of the world Can't you want people to go over the money is but you can't they also can't then like the country that they're from because they have to go The money is they can't they can't they can't they can't they can't they can't they can't they also can't then like the country that they're from?

Canada I don't think you you prove that you'd rather live in America, and I'd rather live in America So if I was living in America, I don't think I'd be We would have been deported because you're brown looking back and saying Canadians should do this Canadian should do that You have to show your ID every single day. I think everyone America is really happy that they're there You think everyone in America is really happy that every day that's not a good statement I think we're more unhappy than Americans are In the media side Okay, there's a lot more discontinuous here things are more expensive here than they are there. Yeah But hopefully As Joe said, I think it was a day actually not this episode that in five years to be a world we do not recognize And I don't think that will be do you want that? I think it happens so gradually and slowly what was I think about the other day The phase in or the phase out of stuff like uber To answer your question.

Yes, he would love this country to fail. He would love to more of this country I would love did you see the letter that 96 CEO sent to mark arnie. No, it was saying take all the regulation bring in first nations I just get out of the way That's the economic solution. I love that this guy's like Did you hear that all the big business guys the billionaires?

Free did you hear that all the billionaires who pretend to profit off all of these regulations being limited want to get rid of them? Well, but they're saying when projects come up it takes years to be approved But it needs to be done in months and then just the whole bureaucracy of can is moving too slowly No, I'm not in disagreement with what you're saying I don't know what the drastic measure is but I don't think just giving it over to the billionaires is the answer But I'm not in disagreement. I would love to see it's too strong here But I don't know that looks like would you I don't know what that looks like because I need nothing to complain about Well, so come on. Let's say they remove those.