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Episode 361 - Week of September 29th - October 5th

from The Joe Rogan Experience Experience · host Floyd, Simon, Kamar and Chico

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Let's get started You are now listening to the Joe Rogan experience experience with Chico Simon, come on and your host Matt Floyd Welcome to the door My name is Matt Floyd. You're always by tomorrow. Welcome to the party and Simon hello friends What we do here is very simple the three of us of us are the Joe Rogan experience this week We're gonna rate each episode as well as the week on scale of one to five Jamie Vernon's We're not gonna talk about each guest the talking points give our opinions this to that end the next boo boo That's what I get this week to booze. Well, let's get some patrons for saying a patrons for thank you for coming back Everybody, let me know how you're doing I'm doing my new patreon.

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The reason why I'm thrown off is because usually it's a monopoly McDonald's right now And they've got they've got away with the dog. We're trying to co-op the space, but no, I am locked out of the emails again Thank you to everyone I'll get on it. I'm sorry. Thank you to all the comments.

Yeah, man. Let me know how you do it. Let him know Don't go to the guest list so we can do we do here. We start off the week with 23 86 the red clay strays It's nice that In this time of so many things going on Asteroids assassinations that we get the pressing band.

I've never heard of before. Sorry get jaw rule on the phone This might it is the equivalent of jar rule 100% this is also a religious podcast at this point a right wing religious I mean it makes sense checks out. It's tracking 187 Greg Braden we got a rate the week first. No, he hasn't even announced the guys yet.

Oh, I didn't finish up with 23 88 line Oh Richie all by Michael Ben and Paige, but we don't do mma's finally got at this point I think I'd rather here Michael Ben and Paige than Lionel Richie. I guess what seems you have a mixed opinions here All right. I give this week a solid one and a half. No a one point two five.

There's a bug in here And it's gonna go anywhere. No, I have this new way of getting flies. Yeah, I do it at the store all the time I wish chopsticks, but Get it. Oh, this is a house fly.

I'm talking about you know the fast guys there You gotta clap above them because they jump or they fly every time I want to tell you that 90% of the time You gotta be quick, but yeah, it worked better than the assault shotgun. Yes, you did tell me that Matt and it works Yeah, here's clap every time clap like two inches of time But the most satisfying is the electrified oh that is fun. Yeah, the swamps when you have the the tennis Yeah, I don't know if I've ever actually used that for bugs like we've definitely played with them before Yeah, we said that you're the drunk at the cottage the gun would be the most rewarding except those guns are just fucking useless How did someone not take that and make it into something that actually fucking works like shoot out like a piece of sea salt You know what I'm saying and let's really watch that fly just dissident. Would you imagine this this piece of salt?

Ripping aside in the fly is coming at you dude. I've been watching nature documentaries lately Yeah, and they showed this scene in one of them where a flop the flies are going on the dead carcass Yeah, and they're eating the the flesh then so this all happens right away eating the flesh Yeah, immediately lays the eggs. Yeah those eggs immediately hatch and become maggots like it's so fucking quick You know, I mean flies only probably live like a month or so Their purpose is just to break and shit down. Well, they're so important.

Yeah, it's I saw a Christian guy saying, you know, how can they're just as useful as oh, am I doing myself? You what I'll try to break down. I can kill the animal sucking kill you Well, if I could kill this it's like if you ever heard Charlie Kirk rest in peace talk about like if a woman is raped should she still have to Could she get an abortion, you know what I mean discuss that is just the the miracle of birth But they they always bring up this case where it's like a 10-year-old girl in El Salvador or whatever and she's been repeatedly raped by her dad or Something and now she's pregnant like it happens like one in 300 or something, you know, yeah, and he's like yes She should have to give birth still not a business again rest in peace. I give the week of three Three.

Well, that is a wild rating. I'll give it a two is the highest I can go I mean like I said 1.25. I think that carries the most weight Yeah, cuz I'm not trying to like yeah, I got it. I know you're doing it.

Oh, you're gonna throw me off a million bucks, you know It'd be great. I mean I'd change my tune on this podcast for sure. No, even if he just pieces off a million he should go away I'd be great. I mean listen.

I'm taking away Oh my god best best case scenario We would be in a car on the way to Austin to wet the ink and then we'd start another podcast dedicated to Theo Vaughn Wow, yeah, do you would you would you blow Joe Rogan for a million dollars? Yes? I'm over 50 like it's time is what I said I do it for like 10 grand at this point Yeah, I like your high offer that would you do it for like $250 I love you. I love you brought that up because I got an amazing story in the post Joe the show after the show That's gonna tickle that fancy guys.

Let's get into it 23 86 the red clay strays who? Well, you say that but they actually put us best this year and I thought about it based on what I mean This guy doesn't do it for the reasons everyone else sort of seems someone does it The drugs the fame. He does it for the Lord. Yeah, if you're not in if you're not in it for drugs and babes I don't trust.

Yeah, what are you doing? Yeah? That being said, I don't know guys remember But there was some sort of Christian performer who was supposed to perform here And he got sort of it wasn't allowed to perform here He ended up doing something Quebec or something other you guys don't remember that no, but I would not be surprised if that guy And these guys are that far off Did you expose a hypocrisy of where we live? Why the fuck again all the power to these guys?

I hope God's light shines upon them But why the fuck are they on Joe Rogan? Joe likes the music It's just like, you know any I could get anybody on to talk about something interesting But no just red clay strays. You do not know there the one big one big big one their song Yeah, what's their big song? I'd never heard of these guys until they were on this show and then until you told me they were blues I don't know.

I don't like country music though. So guaranteed. I've never heard these guys before But anyways, they got the gun to talk what what are some talking points? Well, I was gonna look up who the musician who was not allowed to play here did while these guys were out of play here But these guys are the complete opposite end or the beginning you could say of what the next guest on the show is he's at the end of this run These guys are just blowing up.

I mean, I think they started a band in 2016 Lionel Richie seemed like he cared He's gonna seem like they don't give a fuck about what? I don't know A lot about religious they cared a lot about Jesus. Yeah, Jesus, but not only that the book of Enoch going into legends creation How we got here ancient civilizations? I think I think why I think though some of these things are once you get a little money in your belt You can let your mind wander.

I don't know. I have very little money and yet my mind I think I was speaking for all of us. Maybe we focus on these things not yet where we should not have I'm Watch it the accuracy last. It's a better way to get maybe gay You think the movie is gay the song is wondering why?

That's their hit song. That's the song that went viral on tiktok in 2023. Oh, they're tiktok. Can you play us a little piece of it?

No, no, no, I think well copyright not going on here, but They it's inadvertently like they're not a tiktok band. I think you like their music. It's sort of blues grass rocks Like is it there? Are they like a actually a god band?

I think about it more because of all these ai B mixes like I heard the song many men many times. Yeah, I had no idea what he was saying Until that song that I swear to god up into that moment So I really listen to what they're saying just like I walk around gun on my hip chip on my shoulder next guess We'll tell you this matter one over It's a feel I agreed as a field look radio head You don't know what the fuck radio heads ever saying you've never had any clue what radio heads ever said even when you read the lyrics You're still like half of them. You're like, how does that get to that? The craziest thing to is like rap if you read like a rap song.

It's like a lot of there's a lot going on radio head It's like a poem at best usually a poem repeated and success again It's like an absurdist poem. Yeah. Yeah, where like Paul Simon. Those are all poems, but they're yeah Like long-form poetry.

Yeah, it's almost like Tom York writes and like haikus like weird obscure haikus That would suggest though these guys are in the right place to make good music. They don't care It's like he's an Asian person being translated into English Yeah, and that's why just like refrigerator pops up somewhere. It's probably not the word he wanted to use But there's no good translation from Japanese English. Yeah.

Oh fuck Well, I think actually The killers are a Christian man. They are and you know what I like a lot of killer songs There you go again cuz you're not a lyric on anything. No, I'm not listening to the lyrics I mean, I know I spoke about this a trivia couple weeks ago But that song a closing time is about giving birth. What?

Yeah Final call for alcohol so give up your No, that's it. That's a douche. Yes. Thank you, which is it's about closing time.

I'm gonna read Oh, yeah, such an interesting thing. It's gonna get him one of the guests, but you know where you draw from and So are these stories age of stories the real accounting or metaphor and how they're a description I think time and hold on yeah, it's real closing time open all the doors and let you into the world closing time turn All the lights on over every boy and every girl closing time one last time for alcohol. You finish your whiskey or beer closing time Well, no, I'm just saying I know I want to take me home. I know why hold on you can't stay here What happened to that closing time?

You don't go home, but you can't stay here Okay, oh, I say yeah, okay, okay, closing time time for you to go out to the places you will be from closing time This room won't be open till your brothers or sisters come So gather up your jackets move it move it to the exits I hope you found a friend closing time every new beginning comes from some other beginnings end I know who I want to take me home. I know I want to take you home There's one stanza that seems like it may be birth for the first one and the third one No, not the first one the first one seems like they're out of bar. No, no, hold on. Let's do it again Close in time open up all the doors and let you out into the world.

Okay, that's weird closing time turn all turn all of the lights on over Every boy. Yeah, no, that's in the delivery room. That's interesting. Yeah, but then it's that whole second bar Yeah, turn all the lights on over all the boys and girls It's true I think this is one of those things where they wrote a really fucking dorky song and somebody was like what do you mean by that?

And they were like oh I'm just saying that's not possible. I'm just saying that Song and no one on the podcast knows what we're talking about except the handful of Canadian No, I don't let you down big time. Then that's like a tragically hip. Well, no I'm telling you that they use that song in movies and stuff, haven't they?

No, you know that there's another closing time by Leonard Cohen They're an american rock band formed in Minneapolis in 1995 Those guys were like a tragically hip. That's a Canadian a reference. Oh God fucking Google No, because it wanted me to get into that foreigner song. Okay, we hear for a good time a long time So have a good time.

This time does not shine every day. That's a Canadian anthem That's not a word. You know who the Americans probably don't know about is a patio land Everybody in Canada knows who can Mitchell is those patio lanterns playing on the dark in the night Who cares Like dude I was watching the I was at my parents with Charlie last night for the beginning of the J's game and they're playing a rush song and interviewing like Geddy Lee was talking about the blue jays and I was like oh my god rushes and you my step up so bummed at me So Russia's a Canadian institution. They are the fucking worst band of all time to Americans not like rush No, Russia's a famous.

They're great. Oh, Russia terrible. No, they have some no I they have a couple of good songs. No, they do not I don't like them You have to think sonically for the time part of the browns didn't cover by the way.

Wow. I know you want to go back to the drawing board He was great and you want yeah, maybe a couple of rank They have some bangers that got across the border for sure. They have one big heavy one and they nerded it out sort of Russia's the worst if you're listening to you There was nothing like it. You've got to realize that at the time.

There was nothing like that doesn't rush stinks I'll actually say that red clay strays are actually the opposite of a lot of which because they're fiercely independent doing it They're own way which allows them to do what they want other young guys and they're on the precipice of become a huge Did you see fucking? Who's the guy who fucked Brianna chicken fry there? Oh, Zach Brian Zach Bryant doing his concert at Michigan Stadium there It's the biggest concert ever right of the show America. Oh, it must have been like 150,000 157,000 or something That can't be the biggest one in North America.

They did one in fucking in Central Park Stadium constest okay stadium like because I'm pretty sure that a million people in Central Park for like a Billy Joel show or something really I'm I think they had a Central Park show. Maybe that yeah, I'm not crazy I actually have something I'm gonna bring up in the post-show the summer of Seoul In 1969 well words doc was going on There was a huge vessel Brooklyn of all black artists, which we never heard about now be the post-show What did we find out the other day how close Woodstock was to the moon landing or the alleged Because that was a big part of this documentary. That's what was Garth Brooks a million people in 1997 Central Park shut up How do they contain a million people in Central Park? Like there was there's it's not contained there's enough room for people to dislike right so you just sat up with speakers everywhere So you don't have to be near the guy.

Yeah, I don't know I mean Central Park is fucking massive a million people is insane though the whole story about Central Park is insane I wonder how many people Garth will kill that night? Well, how many he's already buried in Central Park as a better question. So yeah, the artist I was talking about is Sean fucked F-A-U-C-H-T What were you talking about? He's an American Christian musician preacher and I can give this known for his opposition to LGBTQ plus rights and abortion He's also supportive Donald Trump.

So he was the one band, but I and these guys played Blues Fest, but I bet you these guys get along. Maybe I don't know. Well probably that's what I'm betting you Come up and have you guys seen almost famous? Yes It's the movie game where Matt Simon go ahead to find out what your movie came out How much it got to make and how much it made at the box office this week We're doing almost famous a story of a fictional band.

I was wanting to know their name. Their name was still I would have told you that I would have told you a biographical a story from Cameron Crow Isn't it auto biographical what year do you have two thousand and seven I have two thousand and two If you guys had And you'd be correct cuz they just two thousand And that was very close Way off way off on my I said it costs 39 million, which seems like a lot and made two 79 So I said it costs 27 million that made 128 I think you're closer on well definitely I'm closer on the box office But you're closer on the but you know how you think you know what common people you agree of those people sort of got a idea of things So a budget 60 million six zero six zero six zero a lot of our location Somebody is stealing from me Perfect box office 47 0.4. Whoa It lost It's crazy with the wrong fucking genitals movie. What are you talking about that movie lost?

Are we talking about almost famous like the movies? It's still our camera crow really good up Francis. We German. That was his mom Kate Hudson I'm gonna dream Jason Lee leader of the band plays Penny Lane and a pack win Hudson I mean and Philip Seymour Hoffman was in it who was Philip Seymour Hoffman in it a roadie No, was he no who was Philip Seymour Hoffman and fucking almost famous?

So maybe you're not as big a fan of the film as you had previously I just don't remember and that's the movie game But I think I think it makes me feel good that these guys are proper Christian boys that they're not right wise You don't have children because that's a different time. I mean once we get into our next guest as it were times have changed Christ As we said on the lead-off we think these guys said we're not we're doing this for the Lord and I'll say this I do not know many unsuccessful people not to take this angle, but who I think the Lord that's because you don't see them on television Yes, the Lord help help and which is fine like I you there are people they're failing all of God's power like it's God's plan to these guys You know what I mean? I do this show for Jesus. I do not know that let the words.

I'll wait Do this show for the Lord's light shine upon the yeah, but they shouldn't be on Joe Rogan. We don't need to hear about it Why you don't want the light shining you don't want the Lord's light shining upon Joe that seems that should be our decision Whether Lord's like that Lord's light shining upon us, you know what I mean? It shouldn't be pushed on us by a guy who's supposed to be interviewing fucking Bigfoot dudes like this is crazy This show has gotten totally out of control You know what it is and this is this is the juxtaposition. This is the insanity of this show, okay?

Yeah He made all the stink about being political yeah and being like the guy who's the know during covid and with Trump Preach, but then when it comes time to tell us anything he has nothing but guys on who are fucking religious Yeah, not all of them, but you get my point. What is happening isn't that what America is? Yeah, but that was what Joe Rogan wasn't that's why he was like the the anti-establishment guy you can't go from one establishment To the other establishment. I mean it was it was over before the Shopify deal What if I deal you know when it was over you're gonna hate me for this when Brian left this show has gone downhill I know he's made more money, but the show itself has gotten worse.

Well, Brian red band left like 2,000 episodes ago. Okay, that sounds about right. How many episodes are we in like twenty five hundred? This show is still good a thousand episodes ago.

Well, okay. Hold on to the mic is go Hold on. We're gonna check this right now. Matt.

This will be a fun little fucking thing I'm gonna go back a thousand episodes and we're gonna see where the fuck we're at So what are we at now? We're at twenty three eighty eight. So let's go back to just for listeners I want you to take just listen carefully assignments tone right now It's not appreciate I just want everyone to know I'm just angry I'm angry at the fact that like we thought we were getting one thing and it's slowly shit You know what it is? He's just like uber.

He's like Airbnb like it all starts out really great Like they're giving you something you never got before and then they become worse than what you had in the first place No fucking let's go back to Tom green. I predict before you die. You'll have a moment and it'll be the red clay space And you'll really appreciate their music. It'll be a I really don't want to talk about if I start going to Joe Rogan for my musical fucking Epiphanies, that's when I've really like just scrape the bottom of the barrel It'll be like going down for sports Maybe the next year.

You'll be in a moment. Hey, but who is that? That's great. It'll be that man.

Go. Oh, I see what Where are we on right now? It's twenty three sixty two. So I need to get to thirteen sixty thirty six thirteen eighty six There you go.

It's really hard cuz there's so many fucking happens I don't use Google Joe Rogan episode. This is easy. Oh, is it really you scrolling through finger like a fucking moron? Don't worry.

It's coming and that's not to say they made it. I mean Again, that's why we do pull it up on it right now. Okay, so that's the movie again thirteen eighty six you ready? Yeah, yeah thirteen eighty six was Matt Tahiti Thirteen thirteen eighty seven for some reason is not on the Spotify.

No, I don't know. What's one was taken down here Thirteen eighty eight is Louie Piosos who is a photographer and documentary filmmaker Josh Ohm Chris Cresser. That's the guy who never comes on anymore Chris Cresser No, I was trying to tell you that medical guy that Joe used to always have on and then something happened Tim Dillon Tulsi Gabbard and Jocko Wilnick Zach Bitter Brendan Shaw Chris Cresser again Oh, this was the whole game changers debate Matt Fair and Glenn Villeneuve like I'm telling you this show was terrible back then At least at least not every like third guest was a mayor from Chicago or fucking Texas But it was still bad Jocko Wilnick and I don't like your attitude right now at all because you're taking your anger out on me As if I book the guests. My name is Matt the same as his guest Booker.

I don't book the guests for joke I live in this house. I don't make that kind of money. You know, it's true. Matt.

I'm not mad at you I'm just I'll focus my anger towards come hard for the next little while I'm just like of the fucking bait and switch and I didn't think Joe Rogan would do it to us And he did it to us and he still talks like he's the every man I mean while the only reason he asked friends is because he opened up a fucking comedy I think moving to Texas was really the lidge bit if you want Kmart's gonna say it's when they went live. You're gonna say it's when Brian left I'm I truly believe I think it was the move to Texas though that coincided with COVID too, right? So and the spotify I mean everything like it's so weird when I'm watching like a dragon zen right now or shark tank Yeah, and they'll be going through their like numbers Yeah, the people who invent whatever and fucking you know pocket knife that turns into a cucumber peeler or something I'm sick and they're just like in 19 or in a 2018 We did 100 then 120 then 140 then 780 cuz when everybody was home for COVID Yeah, Rose buying shit. Just every fucking inventors thing made a million dollar or whatever.

It's crazy. It's crazy. We don't realize the impact that that had yeah the Everybody being at home pumping up these businesses that shouldn't have been pumped up helping businesses that should have taken longer to You know like the pure buying online. Yeah Probably should have taken longer to roll into society.

I mean it was already hold on That's a bad example. I'm just saying when you like look at COVID. Yeah, it was just such an accelerator of the wrong things I mean listen the more the more alarming thing during COVID was like You can't go to mom and pop shops because that's where COVID will get spread But you can all go to Walmart 400 people at a time just wear a mask and Walmart's fine because they'll the people at Walmart are high level employees And they will stop the spread of COVID. Well, you've seen the ushers they have at the dorm.

Oh, yeah I think the markets are a thing as people applied Happily middle in the middle way There we go buckle up the question everybody not questioning but but you're doing that right now with Trump because you like them They were giving us money though. So when they give us money, it's like just do what you want, you know The problem is after that I don't know. I mean I'll stop giving you the money. Well, then we all want back to work That was it's what you're trying to go to sort of transfer wealth and I'm thinking I'm talking about a proof of concept of how to Informationized that everyone I'm just saying it would have been a lot different I feel if they had hung us out to dry and told us we couldn't go to work You know what I mean, then maybe you'll see a bigger pushback from the people but when they're telling you don't go to work So we're just gonna give you free money.

So again people saw how a population could what it took? I probably could have told you that but it's interesting to see and I don't know if you heard Tim Dylan talking about Tim Dylan was like the reason propaganda doesn't work on young kids today as well is because he was like my parents generation our generation He's like we were given enough shit that we didn't really care Like it was like as long as I can buy a house and have two cars and a big TV feed me all the propaganda you want Like I have what I need so it's fine But now they're betting fed propaganda They don't have any chance of owning a home and like getting a car is difficult So they're like they're like it's not even worth it for me to be constantly bombarded with bullshit If I'm not if I can't even fucking participate and so yeah, money is always the big ones. I'm of course Look at Mr. Beast if mr.

Beast right now said to all of Canada I'm gonna pay everyone a hundred thousand dollars to stay at home this year the second you leave your house You don't get whatever money. We're all staying home. We so get exposed now Don't leave your house for a year. Yeah, so mr.

Beast said to Canada. Listen, you're gonna So your whole economy your whole economy People at a certain attack record would just exist without traffic you do that live in your house for a year without leaving for a hundred K Yeah, I thought it was a million dollars the Jew and Simon I don't think it's not enough because they're saying wait wait wait for anyone stop for anyone who makes anything Close to a hundred K or less. They're taking that money No way if you're making seventy thousand dollars Why but now you don't have to do anything and you're getting more money thirty thousand more to know it I mean that feels like you're in prison at that point exactly how about this? You can go outside.

You can't leave your property. Oh, you're like Do I get to pick a house that I live? Right now Your house and you have a unlimited uber eats and everything yeah, that's what he's saying you can just watch TV You're not spending months and you're not spending on paying for bills. You're not doing for anything even that if you're staying at home What do you spending no gas if it's just food being delivered and uber'll deliver your groceries corn is free?

I mean, yeah, I don't even know what I would do. Well, you get into video games. Oh, I think you'd have to get into created content No, you know, what would be cool about that guy doing this for a hundred thousand dollars The cool thing about that is you could do whatever you wanted and justify it because of course I'm painting all year Yeah, I'm getting paid a hundred grand to whatever the fuck you all you want to do is fill your days at that point Like that's your job, you know, come on. You're right.

You're right car. You're right You're right. You're right. You're right.

You doubled it Well, first of all, we have winter so I think six of the months six of the months are incredibly easy to stay home You know what this sounds like go on universal basic income Well, it's not like in this world of carbon credits. That's what you're doing. I'm taking myself out of mess with everything up I don't know what you can't prepare But no, you know, it's also interesting is I'm trying to do the math So if we have 36 million people and everyone gets 100k, I'm wondering if that's less or more money than we currently spend a year Oh, I'm like homeless and shit on just everything because all those people just have their own house to do They're fucking 100 all in and I wouldn't have to see him. No, but even then you just say cuz I'm not saying they're saying we're gonna spend a hundred Billion dollars.

Oh what that's what the budget's gonna be hundred billion No, no, but you still have to I guess you don't have to take care of the roads for a year if everybody agrees to stay home Right, you don't have to plow the streets. You don't have to pick up. Oh, you still pick up the garbage I saw some guy was in Russia a former Russian country one of the stands and they had sort of I mean He was a bombed out town, but they had low tickets to mention that localized trash Okay, well you bring your trash to a place and they don't know or whatever or just a bunch of Trashings and then some comes there and takes it away So you get really trash off your land as soon as you want rather than weekly getting away I mean like up at like you believe me. You don't want to move trash ever What how do you move the trash you're gonna move it in your car?

It's disgusting. No, at the dump They don't move the trash the trash stays what I'm saying is you have to get the trash to the dump in comars fucking In comars scenario you yourself have to move the trash to the dump. How do you do that? I don't think there would be a problem with us having a dump or you're not listening to what I'm saying We already have all the trash in your car, but what is the way we're doing this to save money on trash or move These are things of austerity.

What can we live without? You know what we can definitely live without Whoa shots fired that are on strike. Yeah, but they think they just sorry guys they're off route They think it's the contract. The employees are not being treated right.

Oh my god. It's not a local postal strike But yeah, let's not wrap this up cuz I think let's pop it up with ancient civilizations. Do you have anything on that? Oh, we'll get to that with what's his name?

Okay, sure, you know what? Let's not dilly dally on the fucking white stripe. No the red white stripes red clay sands red clay strays Mark my words. You're like this and I was really hoping there'd be an interesting reason why they were named that But again, it was like just pick three words that sound good.

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Well, yeah, we're easy there. Oh, I give it a one I also give it a one. I thought it was one of the most terrorism terrible Absolutely terrible, and I'm sorry that I have to turn up the hate to like 11 Rank it up sign, but this guy is not doing his fucking job. Joe.

I'm saying like I do fucking better Do better, and you know who stinks to Matt his Matt Yeah, like you stink buddy go back to the past thousand episodes and look at the garbage you're making us listen to these earworms That have affected us like it is garbage. He's become such a sellout Think about all the like People he's had on the like movie people and the the fucking music people like it's great. It's crazy It's crazy like music so we had one Joe is such a fucking liar you kidding me There's obviously some spotify thing going on here like interesting conspiracy. Who's the country singer?

Whose daughter was on Miley Cyrus? And don't get me wrong. I mean she looks super weird now, but usually I like Miley Cyrus She's fine. No business on Joe Rogan.

She looks super weird now She's like the anti-Joe Rogan is probably asked him to have her on no they didn't since Miley Cyrus has been on Yeah, she does not you're new it might be but I really think it was sir stick with Brian when this whole thing began It was just a tiny little podcast two guys in their fucking basement with snowflakes then CERN happens and all of a sudden It's the biggest podcast in the world because that's what happens when you switch dimensions Yeah, weird things that didn't matter in one have become the president's in the next That's a good rant. I like this. I like this a lot. I'm done.

I'm done fuck fuck this podcast fuck this episode and fuck this podcast Not ours. Well, maybe ours do just fuck the whole thing. Yeah, fuck this podcast Joe Rogan Yeah, fuck Joe Rogan. Yeah, that's what I mean aren't quote me on that 2388 Lionel Richie This is the perfect leading to the rant.

I just gave so if you weren't there for that rewind listen and that applies to this Yeah, it's some weird guess. I mean He just he's avoiding the fact that he got Donald Trump elected. Oh, dude I saw this in he's now like making Trump jokes. Yeah, like that I'm making Trump look that I'm like you can't do that motherfucker Yeah, beat it like we see we know The whole world fucking knows like who do you think you feel you know what it is is that he lives in Texas in Austin?

Yeah, where he's become like the king He's created a kingdom from so isolated and he doesn't read any of the comments He just posts some stupid fucking joke about Donald Trump and then pisses off So he has no idea that like every comment is like hypocrite hypocrite hypocrite. You did this your fault It's just we are being led by people who like have no self-awareness at all and I say led because Joe Logan Joe Logan he's the Wolverine Joe Logan. Yeah, oh Anyways, why are you gonna give us some notes for a line? Sorry.

I said a whole bunch of more notes for the baby. Oh, um Yeah, I He's the one famous guy. I didn't really want because he's been out there for so long his face looks so weird Joe I'm Matt now Joe. Who do you really want on the podcast?

Oh? definitely The lead center for the comment was what's this fucking name Lionel Richie? American Idol. I mean he's big.

I know we were one yard away from Justin No, he might run. He is big. I agree, but I agree back. See Joe I don't know you have the first off How a little bit of a ride you have two musical guests on in one week?

I don't know. Yeah, who's doing the setup? I can see the booking the week before two actors the week before that Oh, and hold on we know this because he said something in one of these episodes that was like it made it ancient history Hit it. I don't remember.

He's just whoever's piecemealing this shit together It's doing a piss poor job to Lionel Richie's credit. He did not care about Joe at all There's no ever interaction Why don't you spoke about himself for two hours straight and Joe just bandied upon and at the end of it Joe a lot of what you said Joe You are who I thought you would and that's a compliment Joe did a great job in this interview the question He's he was asking was fine. He kept the flow, but who cares who cares not only do I not care I would never in a million years buy his book and if you are gonna buy his book then you obviously care about Lionel Richie Yeah, that's an all be yet to go out and buy that guys I agree you have to really care about like I feel like I felt like Lionel Richie has been forced upon me Yeah, my whole life. Oh, not in dirty way Like not in dirty way, but um, but I'm not mad at my which I thought with his music I'm gonna make a real controversial statement because there's force on me I think that I'd rather see a documentary about Nicole Richie than Lionel Richie.

Wow. I don't know about that I'm gonna have to push back on that. Well, I don't care about either. Yeah, you're right There's things we did back then today.

We would be a jail What does that mean? That means different times that means statue limitations. I mean it means a lot But that's what he said it was also very interesting to hear how he thought about creativity or describing the process of saving a Marvin Gaye these guys were really just humming away. What came to me?

There was no Yeah, but it also sounds like the real musical geniuses were just like guys You've never heard of in the studio always will always wear like Marvin Gaye would go in and hum something on that I would be like oh, I got you and play the whole song for him and then it was a real matrix nominated him talking about how Musicians don't know how to read music most of the time. How was that a major? Come on. Well, we were talking about that.

Let's go babe. Oh, yes, that's right. Yeah, I wish they the I could tie it in nice if they were to play strings and never took a lesson But I don't think they have yeah, but they had got on their side, so yeah Well, I know which he seems to think he's only comes from the dirty underbelly society dancers running the music industry It's probably true anything's a corporate eyes because I don't know if you've seen but how it's working out with Larry Ellison and Oracle. He's buying all of the everything.

He's buying basically all of us media and tiktok Yeah, and well, what is that not basically all of us media? Which is just crazy if you think all paramount and universal and tiktok or all the same company all owned by the same rich And I'm sure and I'm sure by the way you want to get a job with them I thought it was some candid conversation about Michael Jackson stinky smelly smelly Jackson Um and people are stealing his clothes. That's not why it's not Well, no just the fame being around the fame and the fact that he had these older brothers are banging chicks and he was a kid and like a lot of Insight baseball. I suppose you could say how much older was Lionel Richie than Michael Jackson same age They were the same age.

Really? You know this for a fact? Do not he's just saying stuff. No, he was older But I like smoking Rob is a board line or a cheat interest.

Is that wrong to say no? You like a smokey Robin's and a smoke man. Name me three Cheers of a cloud. We knew that one was coming Well, I'm way smokey sick Oh my god, that was so funny Was that funny cuz you know that episode?

He's never watched the office. He doesn't watch the office seriously Do you know that episode of the office? He does not watch the office. I don't know what you're talking about So he really says here's a clown It does not watch the office.

Oh my god, seriously. You don't watch the office That's not the name of the song. No, it is the name. So there's a scene where B.

J. Novak comes in. He's like Smokey Robinson died I'm really shook up about the whole thing blah blah and and they say you don't even like smokey Robinson name three songs and he says They're like and name the other two and he's like I'm so beside myself about this guys That would have made me more so much more in touch and then and then car This is the best part. She comes in and she's like no smokey Robinson didn't die It was just a thing actually he's playing just like 40 minutes over in a town.

Are you gonna go? $70 the smoke man wouldn't want me to pay that Oh my god. I can't believe it. That's so funny.

All right, sorry Derailed again. They said I got him to the boat Richard Pryor And that it was sort of thing that he's funny on the drugs away got off. He wasn't funny Hmm. I think might have been a caution about um Nothing's funny.

Do you think that Lionel Richie was a straight edge? No, he seems like a straight edge type of guy I bet this guy fine. All right, does Nicole Richie make him seem straight edge? He fucked for sure.

Are we know that? We know he's all night long On the ceiling say you say me Hello All night long Is it me you're looking for I can see it in your eyes. I can see it in your smile. I don't know if that's my eye But is there something annoying about um Successful people.

Yes, we're counting there. They're right to success. Yeah, I don't hear this shit. Fuck off But would you rather hear someone how they just failed dawardly?

Yes Because he's this is the purpose in his brain is to inspire To leave a legacy and also it's a different time like he lived in a time where you just walk in a Motown records Be like I talk a berry Gordy and they'd be like yeah, he's in his office and you just go in and sing for him And he'd be like you got her don't now. It's I guess it's maybe easier now. I guess with all the different time Yeah, it's easier time now for anyone to just pop off as Is it hard? I mean, it's definitely easier for sure with the um But are we getting like better music right now because it's become an open playing field There was a better music when it was the only the best that got to the top No, but there was just a point there was just a point where he was like, you know You'd be with labels and they get sold to another label of them like well Why wouldn't you just build your studio in your house and put up music?

I mean it begs the question That was a serious question mode But do you think we get better music now that it's open playing or before when it was like closed kingdom I just think about it's a weird thing because we're older now So you're never you're never gonna listen you're never gonna listen to music at 40 with the same ear that you did when you were 20 So it's an impossible like I I truly believe that that Motown era that's probably the best music Of like the last hundred years. You think yeah Including a specter Full specter What do you mean or do you see before Motown? He was the same time that there was a sound you know what I mean He had the wall of sound there's some songs. I could play of his like be my baby Because of the book right before but you would think he could have a motel be my baby like be my be my Well, he produced it.

I okay. He's the I would be electrocuted hairdo killed one of his wives. Yeah on the boat It was a different time and music was coming from a different place I would have liked some uh, no, I don't know because he started at 19 if this thing With the corridors they spoke of the trappings of fame and that does sound like the worst Yeah, does it like too much of a good thing? I mean like it gets to a level if the fame comes with massive amounts of money I mean again, but I was wondering that that's because if you knew that why would you let your daughter do that?

I don't know if he let his daughter do anything. She kind of like just grabbed onto Paris I don't mean I don't mean it's not like a Puritan saying he's not doing anything wrong I think at our time. It was annoying watching wasn't a cool Richie like a child actress who was out there like trying to be an actress I thought she was literally just Paris's best friend of God on TV Reality show and we at the time This if you put it back there was like, well, who are you? There's you shouldn't you're just you're just no, but that was a thing to um, just have disdain for Where it was just now it's of course The amount of people's who kids do tick-tock Actors and stuff and you'll see a famous actor and you'll realize it's because it's just the new currency Yeah, and then like Quincy Jones's daughter's a good actress Uh, she was she might have gotten there because of because her Jones Yeah, but my point is is it's not like she is where it's not like where you watch her on screen and you're like, holy fuck This is brutal.

She's only there because she's like decent actress in the machine Sure, well, I don't know. I'm again if the argument is like, is it easier to get into Hollywood if you're already there? Yeah The same way like you see in football too though Ah, that's something that I wish you'd asked about. How do you see it in football?

Well, like Mike Shannon has a bill Mike Shanahan's son is a coach in the NFL They're coaching jobs in the NFL are incredibly difficult to come by he didn't get that job I mean he got that job because he was around football His whole life my point that was again when you're around football your whole life Deon Sanders's son is in the NFL right now. She'll do her Sanders again You have to get out of the leg up Stuff do the work that's like you still have to be drafted by a team Hear me out. Hear me out. Okay.

Let's like uh JJ McCarthy who is a quarterback for the NFL He had a son like three months after me his son forget the athletic ability in the family But his son obviously just has a better chance of getting in the NFL than Mike it Let's say let's just say for the sake of this argument that they were born athletically the same gifted right like I hear you I mean the sports better example like marzetta's brawny That's one where like that guy has no business in the NBA and he got into the NBA because of his father You see this I think that's unfair like listen He wouldn't have started game one of last season if his dad weren't LeBron James But he spent the whole he spent 95 percent of the season in the g-league where most people go again him getting even there No, he did well in the g-league. Yeah, he honestly gone I'm not blowing so here I'm just saying that those are kind of the right steps If you're not a breakout player is to go play in the g-league for a bit And then if you can make it through the g-league you become like a bet like brawny James is never gonna become a superstar in the NBA No, I agree with that. I mean he probably doesn't At his current skill level. He probably doesn't last in the NBA on any team I'm sure you could get a guy who's like Gonna put up a couple of assists or something Again, Peyton and Eli's dad quarterback in the NFL Peyton and Eli Hall of Famers.

They're Archie Manning This started on I think I was critical because he was some of the trappies of fame and how you don't want to be famous and so why would he submit his Child daughter that I think some of these situations is different like he's not you're not submitting the fame per se It's the rigors of the sport, but they're around you. They're monkey. See monkey. Do I think it's a lot more apparent in like Hollywood Than it is in like sports.

Yeah, sport seems like you know, you have to be a way better than the next guy to get As well. Yeah, I mean, maybe that's the same with the acting thing to him You see a lot of like shitty actress kids coming up mind you some of them end up being good like a you know who's a good actress is the Daughter of Ethan Hawke and Uma Thurman Dennis quaid sons a good actor who's Dennis quaid son Um You know that monster show that was on Apple. Yeah, where they were like testing nukes and then it was a Godzilla show Yeah, that wasn't Dennis quaid son. It was um whoever's called the Hans husband son Kurt Russell.

Sorry. That's it. Yeah, my fault Whoever was in that show was Kurt Russell's in that show. Yeah, he's a good actor.

Yeah, the blonde guy there. Yeah, I'm with you Sorry, come on. Go ahead. Is it necessary for him to go on American Idol?

That's a judge. Well, why not? I mean, yeah, he's the right guy to do that job. Should that job exist?

Well, that's all I'm gonna do is I was gonna perform a Saudi Arabia like I'd rather see Lionel Richie than like the fucking Scary that you compare that to performing in Saudi Arabia Then scary slice, you know what I'm saying like who cares what she has to say at least Lionel Richie is made like a legitimate His catalog dictates. He knows but he knows he's looking for simplicity and feel With no like no no knowledge of music whatsoever and I guess that's the romantic part of it So tomorrow obviously at the liberal if the liberal party said we want to put you on contract for the next four years We'll be 100k a year to do comedy events for the liberal party. You're obviously taking that money That'd be a tough one man. No, you're obviously taking it obviously.

Yeah, of course Like I said money dictates where your allegiance is like I always try to rack my brain Is there some place where I Still not this is to avoid the money for integrity, but I don't know what's happened. So yeah, and that's not an insult to you I am in the exact same book. I wish it had been a situation where it was like so much money that you know you had to make a real decision Well with everything. What are you gonna do?

Yeah, I'm sure there's a price you'd pay that you question Uh, sorry explain that should I got that? Oh 100% I worried people fear success. I was leaving today. Even if I got money I don't know how to live properly.

Oh, you would you'd figure you'd figure it out. I'm bored before That's that's crazy talk. I don't believe that at all like You look at some of the people who have money. They were also born to be poor like I don't think about a car like if you've been living off of nothing for so long There's nothing to say that if tomorrow five million dollars in your bank that you wouldn't like you might can you might start living Like you might start living above your old means, but that still might be a number.

That's like you're not gonna blow through five million dollars Yeah, it would be hard if you won like 30 million dollars. You would live way better than you're living now You like it's just it's just I would be back on drugs so fast If you have all the money do all the drugs like there's no the reason you get we get angrier We look down on people who do drugs now is because they're doing the drugs, but they don't have the money with you The money you got to wear the khakis to get the girls to get the power, you know First you get the power then you get the money then you get the money. I'm not gonna lie though I'd listen this three times out. Oh my god.

Well. No the first two times I fell asleep like I just Had to come back and double-speed it and I got through it. Oh, it's so boring that you know Lionel Richie if you had your choice of like famous singers to have on who would it be Leonard Cohen? That's amazing He's never going on Joe Rogan, but that's amazing.

That's interesting. Do you know that? There we go slow to slow down So we think there's a bunch of artists that because their beliefs they would never be caught near near Joe Rogan And we feel he would take their brand so we can assume something's about Lionel Richie I don't know myself and also Great ending to this podcast when Joe asked Lionel. Did you read your book and he goes no and it's really falls apart Simon I'll answer your question.

What what artist would I like what music what's it has to be singer a singer? Yeah, please urban I guess but like Big time. I don't want like some underground hip-hop guy. No, I never heard I wasn't gonna say that Um, it's funny because he had Josh home on you brought it up earlier when you were going to the Stone Age Yeah, and um He has arguably one of the craziest stories to ever tell and he didn't they didn't it didn't come up once So it's a weird The person you might want on might not even talk about the thing you want them to talk about You know, I mean that's always a problem on Joe.

So I don't know I don't know but we never get who we want so I'm just wondering if a singer has to be on Who would you like that singer to be? It's Dave Grohl. How do we have Mick Jagger on? No, Mick Jagger has never been on Dave Grohl.

That's interesting. Well, just why would be a great guess you get to talk You get to talk about the who the other guy from the man has been on. Oh, yeah, we're so lost. We're so lost This was such a bad idea.

What are we gonna do that? Are we done for this guy? Uh Struggle the biggest struggle is with yourself. Yes, as Lionel said, yes And Lionel threw the third person at the end when he was defending himself for not reading his book Because I've lied already it took two years, right?

That's what I was gonna say and this is a perfect Joeism, right? Book is only good if the person who wrote it. I've listened to tons of I couldn't disagree with Joe more I couldn't disagree more. Sometimes they're good.

Most of the time these guys have no business Jordan Peterson should never be reading his own book ever. That's the craziest fucking thought ever. He said it's probably the opposite 70 30 Yeah, I will say I've I've listened to books on tape though. Whoever they had reading it ruined it for me Or I was like I can't even listen to this book that happens too Yeah, but I think more than anything more than I agree with make it terrible.

Yeah Because they're they're usually not speakers. Yeah, I agree. They're weird book nerds. They're weird book.

They're writers That's why if they were podcasters, it would be different. Well, I think we are days away from just Say I love you. I hate you and then it would I would translate me to record you in your voice and talk it and dandy Do you not remember Kessler? No, the guy who was on Rogan.

He did like the um the game changers debate again. Oh, yeah Chris Kressler, I think his name was he was like Joe Rogan's go-to health guy He was on all the time like I bet if you look it up he was on Ten times and then all of a sudden you don't really Tim pool was on a lot and then just well We know what happened to pool he went but that's weird. He should be back on now, right? This is right on his wheelhouse.

I mean the Joe Rogan experience is pretty much like a toned-down version of Tim pool. Tim pool is the worst His show is so unbearable. Oh, he's on here. He's the worst and he has so many shows But then right but then you hear about people going to do his show and talking about his compound and how incredible it is With the skate ramps and isn't and you're like, you know what?

I would have taken the Russian money too Like if it buys this sell out all day long. Yeah, we were raised under a lie up here Sell out all day long Well, just remember remember just as a national thing how offended we were with Gretzky was like they could have taken money It was just like we're better than this like it's just a psyche a fucking well remember how I find it weird that you think that way like I just Remember at the time and it people were sad that he was leaving Canada. That was all no one They got together and said maybe we should block this from happening as a matter of it. It did happen.

Nobody walked it No, no, I'm saying it didn't happen I'm with Kumar the the common like people's opinions was like this guy is selling out his country for money So many people here sell it's crazy I was thinking if they made it so that you could just go to America and work there. Yeah for 25 million Americans Canadians it was an option on the board. You have 30 days to choose Do you think you it would just not many people go? I don't think many people would I wonder I think all of our do you I have a question for you Do you believe that not being able to work in the States is the only thing holding you back?

No, but it's just it's just they can work here. It's not Americans. You come here work. We cannot go there So it's just that even that thing but Who was it one of the biggest things that happened is Canada is a brain drain from anything for people doctors Everything goes for money in America.

What do you mean though Americans can come here and work? But you can't go there and we're like artists performers. Yeah artists different rules. It's different rules Small I wonder if that's holding a lot of people back At this point with the way that direction that the country's going aside from the major centers I think a lot of people don't like the way Canada's going and think they would rather be in America to their fault if it was a bad idea at the other day, but it's cheaper down there I mean, I think there may be more opportunity But you're weird you like you hate that we take on debt they have way more death than us They take on way more death than us, but you're like cool with that because I don't think that's a sticking thing the problem I think is that at least here we're like a Small fish in a small pond there.

You're a small fish in a gigantic pond So like if you're in trouble here the chances of the government helping you is pretty slim But you will get help who knows about there like you could be in a place where nobody even knows you exist I'm sure if you move from here to Minnesota, you wouldn't miss a beat. Well, I mean, that's yes fine go to Minnesota I'm all the power to you. I mean, would you go to see Lionel Richie and take it to his concert? Sure 100% so there's that 100% nice thing you can say But I thought it very boring and definitely should listen up again if Lionel was meat if if Joe had I guess Lionel Richie on and they were just like just listen to this guy's album That to me is better than having to listen to Lionel Richie Do you see how you move?

No, if he performed one of the songs You just did a acapella if you did that on the show we would hate that But we would let it go because it was Lionel Richie and the performance better than Lex Friedman and he got the fucking thing So the least we can do is let Lionel Richie sing again The positives Lionel did not ask one question about Joe and he's upbringing or anywhere he got there or his experience or anything about jujitsu or hunting So that's all a bonus they they Told in fighting when they brought up Muhammad Ali Mm-hmm. They dipped the toe in fighting when they brought up Muhammad I find it interesting you touched on it before about um about the comedian there Richard pryer Richard pryer where Joe who doesn't know Richard pry like I guess made him well He was doing but doesn't know him like a Lionel Richie would know him Makes this big grandiose statement and then Lionel Richie who actually knows Richard pryer Said something different but you know Joe is like no no that's my my idea is right Yeah, I've heard stories. I've heard stories. I think I know that Well, let's see it from this point on Joe changes his tune on um He groups Richard pryer and send kiddos in as losing their edge when they got off the stuff Yeah, that's something you look for I can get behind that Joe's off the stuff Joe's off alcohol I wonder if it's helping or hurting his comedy Joe is off the stuff I would say most people say his comedy can't be saved Except him.

He's you know one of the uh one of the best There was a time when he was for sure when you went saw him No, he wasn't No, no, no, no, he went to the podcast not his nobody No, I didn't know I was way before that I forgot that I forgot that But I'm telling you like I'm not listen I should on Joe Rogan a lot and I know we are a podcast of hate But I'm going to tell you something straight from the heart Okay from a guy who's watched a lot of comedians Joe is not one of the best comedians He's probably not in like the top hundred comedian. Well, come on What are we talking about here? I thought it was very if there are 200 comedians out there Joe's out 100 If we're gonna out show the major Mattering comedians. I think then field on did take a big hit this week Dude, I saw him.

Did you not hear about this Simon? I think I did but remind me Theo was recording his Netflix special and apparently he bombed it so hard people were walking out halfway through I saw a clip of him after the special being filmed where he's standing at the edge of the stage talking like the few fans that are left And he says to one of the fans. I'm having serious suicidal thoughts Yeah, this is this I heard somebody reaching out to him because he was having some sort of Yeah, he went on his podcast doing like I was podcast and he said the funny thing is you know, I did it was two shows taping whatever we understand that the magic of specials I did my show Like I always do do the second show like this idea of exposing the door opener How could she is to do this? He came He even said this time we didn't have the telepromters And I really feel like he formed a character that was beloved and it's a it's a stick But he much prefers the podcast face Because he's so but maybe he feels with a imposter syndrome of being a comedian And I don't if he doesn't want to do it, you know, what's crazy about he's pissed at Trump's phone You know, what's crazy about Theo Vaughn?

No, is he started on road rules, which is a reality show Yeah, both those things are crazy like That's nuts. That's like some that's like Mike the situation becoming like one of the best Comedians. Oh, I think that is that is a path. Let's pollute these very successful No, no, I'm just saying yes to make people famous definitely a path But to actually be like somebody who matters in the the lexicon of comedy You don't think he is but lots of people I have a joke I and I've just never seen him a real funny joke It's just the absurdity of the storytelling.

Yeah, but christina pizinski has wrote some good jokes Everyone's funny to somebody Everyone's funny to somebody and once you have name recognition, it's just like There's always another show that that's the most exciting thing about life Is there's not a thing where everyone said every joke and seen everything someone wants to see something new every single day somewhere But like christina pizinski and um, what's his name? No, uh, Theo Vaughn They were like nobody in the comedy world was like, oh, well, they've been on road rules. So Name recognition, you know what I mean? Like it was probably a hindrance to them more than a help Well, I'm sure it exposed to my industry and it's like what do you want to try acting?

Do you want to try stand up? You want to try commercial acting? Do you want to do a stunt double? Do you want what do you want to keep doing?

I think it's a reality TV circuit Back then they didn't I don't know that either of them knew they wanted to be stand-up comedians a lot of people like Are just like I want to be an entertainment or whatever and then they've I just want to be famous as a comedian. I'll try to do this reality show I'm not coming down on him. I'm saying it's interesting that that happened I'm also saying that that was still a time where people wanted tv gigs, right? So like the idea of like one might do road rules and then someone notices me and is like, oh, let's put him I mean, you know, who knows either way I give this one and a half Oh, oh, not that one and a half.

I give it two and a half. Say you say me. There we go. All right We're gonna take a break.

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Oh, oh, oh What? Oh Well, maybe don't worry about it. Oh, maybe Maybe This guy is bringing the inconvenient truth to us. Oh my god.

He does look like old man. Right What are we doing here? I like it. I mean the guy has no proof of anything What did he even talk about?

I'm telling you I listened to this episode I totally thought you would love this he talked about how we don't have the same powers That he believes that human beings have like powers that are On the Mars came here. Yes, we've been created. Oh, I totally remember now. Sure.

Sorry. Come on. Go ahead. Start Um, this guy looks like Silverwolverine.

Yes, that's what we're starting We all agreed and we can move on. No, but um, just everything's unfounded But the idea of the electricity within every cell I believe he said cells learn to play pong like there is a there is a energy and if that could be harness the whole thing If an atom can be split to create the more energy we can imagine and we are full of atoms There's potential energy and we are going totally the wrong way Well, I'll add to it. Well, I'll add to it is when you bring up transhumanism So that means the idea of uh, because he suggested be the last biological beings Yeah of our time if things keep going the way they're going was Jesse michaels on Joe Rogan I don't know Anyways, um, I was listening to him Joe talks about him all the time And he was saying that um, and I think he might have said this on Rogan if he was on that there was A structure that they found That was obviously man-made that went but a wooden structure somehow got preserved That went back 300,000 years I don't remember that Like that's insane to think about right like we were contesting whether people were around 10,000 years ago Or whatever go Beckley Teppi is but 300,000 years ago Like and it probably is right like they're we're so wrong about so much even in our lifetimes Like this is how it was and 40 years later Based on based on based on based on totally different So the idea of 300,000 years ago seems insane the idea of they're being giants on the earth seems insane But like we're so limited really do you not think as well though the idea of climate change is insane If we know we've been around this long and just all of a sudden at this point we're doing too much and it now is a But hold on you missed his point. He said he was like the climate does change And he's like and we should be spending a lot of money on renewable energy sources He said that this guy said that and the garbage is a problem But this is what you're saying is like you're like I agree with I agree with this guy so much and then this one thing That's wrong with these messages because he thinks the phone the social media everything is Going to shut part of our energy down forever to help us become machines Oil is not um Forever right we don't know is there enough oil to last forever.

We don't know What if it's the core of the earth keeps cooking up And just keeps producing oil and that's part of that killer burns out It's sweat soil or or they're from dinosaurs and there is a finite amount because there was so many dinosaurs on the planet That's how much if they make oil, but I don't I don't know Where anything comes from? Yeah, I well I mean this I wasn't like a proponent of carbon credits He was just saying yeah We should invest in renewable energy because we have technology and money and And was it because he was worried about it running out or was it because he was worried about what like the smoke was doing to the ozone layer? No, no, he said listen he said that the um The temperature on earth changes naturally over time it goes in waves and right now we're in like a hotter wave But he said I just don't believe we should be investing in renewable energy sources I don't think it's just that we've done nothing He said that would be crazy to say that we've done nothing It's weird to think too that like Joe talks about it all the time But like the Yellowstone mega volcano thing has like erupted like once every However many million years or thousand years and we're right do for it I believe he said he thought most of the CO2 was coming from the oceans Okay, like naturally and just back to the ancient civilizations how far we've gone The climate in a hundred years is not a thing right in the blip of that Well, no, but you don't know I mean hold on if you're gonna play that game Then you don't know that the climate wasn't the thing that knocked out those people 300,000 That is true, but we're assuming a lot of these things are meteors sure I'm not disagreeing with you. It could be a volcano.

It could be it could be some sort of disease It could be a hundred things but it could also be something related to the Um, again Like if there's massive if the temperature does spike and there's droughts and we can't grow food then we're all fucked Right, we agree on that or most of us are water in the fields of Mountain Dew. Oh, yeah, that's a great idea. I like that Imagine all the flies that would attract That's like immediately This grouped in with the red place place like we're saying and where do we find um because we criticized religious texts Obviously because what's the intention or whatever, but it's the only thing that was there at the time Grouping that with things that happen at the time to go back to realize we're all the same Sorry, that would be the hope right to unify us That would be the hope. Yes to unify us.

Yes Otherwise, it's just to find out a cool story the hope of what Deciphering what is religious what really happened There's something happening in a Bible that you connect with this called sizable Becky teppley so we can say that's real However, we do this. I mean it would be great if we found out that there really were giants or we have power just in ourselves sonically or whatever I always say does it say that in the Bible Does it say that in the Bible the burning bush? I don't know no, but I don't know I've never read the whole Bible. I didn't know there was like a big part of it That was like we have a special power inside us.

Well, somebody had a special power amongst us Jesus, I think that's the guy. Yeah, to me It makes the most sense that Jesus would be some one of two things either an alien himself Okay, or somebody who had been contacted by the aliens to do a certain job But he also talked about sense to um Monks or whatever getting to this flow state of the empty like experiences and when you question, you know We said what are you doing this for? Why wake up in morning going to work to pay just to keep it keep going for what was the exit thing But maybe it is to like trip out. We're not trip out, but um resonate Yeah, and all these things technology and products and consumers and takes us away from it I believe that's what this guy was suggesting The drugs really seem like if that should is true And like the monks need to meditate to get to like the the next dimension or whatever it is that they're doing Yeah, the drugs get you they're like to do sweet.

Oh, right like a DMT It's a shortcut exactly so it makes sense that there would be a book. Let's say to teach you about the way to Use the shortcut correctly here. Yeah, the same way there are books that teach you how to meditate correctly to get to Insert mushrooms in anus, but that book is that book is gone because the bible unless that book is the bible But again, I don't see a lot of that in the bible There's not a lot of drug taking while we don't read we don't read or speak Hebrew So we couldn't even even if we could uh, you'd have to get like the original bible in Hebrew, right? And Like the first line you're gonna read the king james bible if you go home the first line of the book of Ezekiel is I took a massive dose of mushrooms.

Yeah, and they just ripped that first sentence. Yeah, we don't need that part But they don't even let Ezekiel in but that's it's cool the wheel inside a wheel and this The entity takes him on to like what is a spaceship and takes him on a tour of like the universe But you didn't think this guy was dropping hardcore No, no, this guy was I like The technologies There are powers that be I mean, and listen, I would really like to believe that we're all like super powered individuals Who just don't know how to use our powers like it's like a fucking uh, dream superhero movie I think about how cash is almost gone cash is gone and how I found myself stuck with cash and being really inconvenient Not all the time. Obviously, but just in situations where that wasn't a problem once about time I thought about the other day. Come on.

I was like, I haven't paid a fucking atm fee in a decade Whereas I used to like it was all cash. Oh, yeah, five with jobs in a month. You never for years Yeah, it was like if you had a drug dealer you used a lot of you paid a lot in atm fees It's true. Yeah, and that was it.

No, but even then like I went to a lot of bars, right? And bars was always like I don't ever remember paying debit at a bar Really? Fuck dude. First off if you were like I'm paying debit.

I was like, I'll fucking kill you where you stand really? Yeah, okay Every bar I worked out. It was like you're running a tab. I don't remember when debit became like a thing thing What year was that you figure?

I mean, it's been around for like 30 years. No, I realized that but when we just like started the tap has really made The top once it's not once it's on your phone. Yeah, that's such a Louis CK joke though every time I go to a atm thing and it doesn't read my top and they're like you want me to fucking Yeah, well, what are you tapping on your phone? Yeah, but it's just another one of those examples of things that's just adopted it Seamlessly one would say it's early 1990s.

Okay. I went to get gas and I Got there and I was like fuck. I don't have my bank car. I don't have anything with me But I was like thank god I my phone tap boom gone in and out one that convenience is there as well Yes, do you pay for things on your phone?

I do I don't but and that but now you're not special It doesn't make you better than us. No, yeah If you got about a bunch of cash you got to get to a location to put in a machine so you can use it on your phone That is that is frustrating. Yes, everything you just said there is true and frustrating and the generations that don't even acknowledge just like younger people Sometimes when you give the money, it's awkward situation for everybody. No, not not this one.

Yeah, like just everyone brings up the Wherever you are turn the pad and then you give the money and it's like well slow down here I went to domino's last night. We had a $42 pizza order and I had a 50 So they get a party No, whatever it wasn't yeah, it was merry sister's birthday We I had a 50 and the guy was like he looked at me was like come on I was like well, it's $42. So I'm not it's not a $2 purchase where I'm asking for a gang of change I'm like you're gonna have to give me fucking eight bucks like no way Yeah, and he was like I gotta get the manager like I was like you have to get the manager. Whoa.

No, no, I pick up Yeah, no, no, you drop it off your house. No, I would pick up. Okay. The dude at the cash like I got to get the manager and like had to go get someone No, that's crazy.

I was like this is insane. I was like I have I was like this is cash money And you have to give me like zero changer. You'll never believe how many people ask me a day Do you guys take cash like is it okay if I pay with cash? It's crazy.

You're like, what do you mean? Is it okay? I think it's your generation. Oh, no, I think it's legal legalness like the law that you have to take cash I was not the law.

Are you sure? I know people Break it, but I know you do not have to it is legal tender as in you can legally use it to pay off debt But there's nothing that says that a bar you're a positive of this I know there's a place on Bank Street that is no cash. It says no. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm telling you It's there's no law that says you have to accept 50s hundreds and you like shit in any event I feel like this guy was coming with an inconvenient truth Perspective again. No site to back up. I mean, that's kind of the problem is he felt like he was just like a feeling guy He's like a field back to that guy.

He's like whatever the same inline step that the podfather has I guess yeah Yeah, so it's true. There's no law that states right. Yeah. Yeah, but I remember when I was young Conspiracy theorist the idea of the once cash is eliminated.

It's like the mark of the beasts or that's what control is surrendered Yeah, and we were saying last week. You wonder if all the black market money We can cash jobs drug deals Prostitution that's the missing money. He like glazed over human trafficking Money that's not involved in the economy per se is that the missing? Where does all the money go?

That's what we say right? There are a lot of people there are a lot of people in this world making money But not paying taxes is what you're saying. But that's the whole thing like it's not anyone's fault Well, they're still spending money in the every every server if that guy gets the eight dollars from Matt He doesn't pay his share on the dollar 50 on it. Do you believe?

Oh, no, we are my favorite part of what he talked about was the Possibility of civilizations on Mars and the moon because look we can't even agree on when our people started building on this planet We have no idea if you throw that into the mix that just like makes it so much more incredible that humans have because we all agree that there's probably been At least a couple of iterations of us on the planet, you know Before the flood after the flood. I mean that was still 10,000 years ago. Yeah Well, I think we're underplaying it, but they're supposed to go to the moon in February and he talked about India and trying to also be involved in Showing pictures stuff like that. I mean, I don't I haven't seen anything have you Pictures of the moon.

Well, I was just watching information I was just watching this thing on probably tick-tock and it was they were saying when they released pictures of the moon there's always Blurred out things and we always you don't even notice because it's grayscale interesting And it's from a distance and you're just but when you actually look into the pictures that they provide you from NASA You'll see that there's like spots where things are obscured again The weirdest thing my biggest point of logic is with everything that is revered and remembered and celebrated it is not what is not The moon landing on the moon. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's true.

Come on. You you couldn't have been more right about something And when you argued against me on the first moonland. That was amazing How how far things have changed? Because of all the things of all the things that right up there with things I believe the least but then so The moonland if you have if you have a mission to the moon in February and new information is disseminated like it could be the What's it called turning point?

No tipping point and alien something craft up there anything? Yeah, more than what was no humans have already lived up there Or they never went there we find the same pyramids there that we find here and we don't understand either of them That's got to be a reality check for modern-day human beings No, seriously like enough to move the needle to say we need to figure out what the fuck was going on here because our limited view of this Whole thing can't be enough and maybe that's like the step We need in the direction of just everything like looking at ourselves differently as like well Obviously a race that is powerful enough to have Lived on the moon or come from Mars or come from the moon either way. You're having to do a lot of space travel You're not just jumping off the planet and landing here. Keep in mind too.

There's a chance Okay, here just think about this That like a civilization lived on the moon and then had to come here for whatever None of them on Mars and had to come here for whatever reason and they didn't make it because the atmosphere so different the temperature Whatever it may be they might have lived for you know a year two years five years ten whatever number you want to put on it And maybe some of them procreate it with whatever was here or they left some sort of pens for me It's I think they were that advanced you know, I mean so like maybe the earth was like Mars and they left whatever it was here to sort of Spring life. I don't know anything anything's possible. There is no like well That's why it would be interesting if we find the same pyramids with the same inscriptions because then we would know that whatever Form of us that that was yeah was so successful right because they were able to have lived on two separate planets We would have to think that like every building we build now is a joke to those guys if they're looking back and seeing that We're not building any pyramids, you know, oh Seriously, you know what I mean that would that would have to be a fun reaction Any sort of even if they were the same shape Come our if they get to the moon and it's a fucking pyramid and it's lasted this long on the moon and we have pyramids here And nobody gives a fuck about them. You know what I mean?

Yeah, I mean to be hilarious they come down It's just bass pro shops everywhere and they're like, oh, so you did keep it. Yeah, you know what? They did keep doing great work dude. Imagine the guy who owns bass pro shop is like a Dude and he's actually continuing the heritage of building.

No one wants to do this. I'll do it Well again like I said with the red clay strays with success Cuz ability to wonder and marvel and chase dreams. Yeah, like the calm person. I don't think it could be You know consumed with not knowing where we came from as age of civilization some shops here There are some people but it's more of a your belly must be full How important it is unfortunately but like you said if it's on the moon, it's got to be a unifier Yeah, you know what's cool is that you know, there's that story in Florida I don't remember exactly where but it's the guy who built the coral castle.

Yeah, I remember it's this giant fucking Yeah, it's like Stonehenge made of these basalt rocks And he did it all by himself no help and he would only work at night when no one could see him and people swore that they saw him with this like weird black box and a click a levitate things and His whenever he was asked he just said I know the secrets of the Egyptians Which is weird obvious which is super weird, but that might just be one of those like modern-day guys who understood what yeah, maybe like a Tesla type a Tesla type exactly Yeah, but I mean even with Tesla like I mean maybe with this guy too. We never talked about it But Tesla said he was getting his Ideas from a Martian no He was in contact with some you don't know that could be propaganda from fucking JP Morgan or whoever the fuck I mean that could be something that they said just it totally could be or it could have been something so crazy now It is that they didn't care that it got out because it made them look even fucking that year and that's what they were trying to do Right like to me. That's the whole pigeon shit. He was in love with the pigeon.

Yeah. Yeah, that's the whole pigeon You were told he was in love with the pigeon. This is what I'm saying. We were told he was in love with the pigeon Thomas Edison Love turtles propaganda.

Yeah. No, no, I'm this is what I'm saying. Come on I'm saying that they lied to us about that to discredit Tesla So nobody would want to listen to his free energy theory because he's the guy who fucks pigeon I think I've talked about this before I feel like these words have already come out of my mouth and Who knows settings back by how much dude who fucking knows you know what that's got to be the case Because there's no way when you look at like how fucked up our world is now. Yeah, that we've made the right decisions along the line where And again just going back to CERN.

Yeah, that would make sense because shit seemed really good back in the day There was hope there was this idea of people like having this like look I get it There were still shitty things that happen like you're obviously on a timeline that wasn't perfect But it was better but it was way better and then 2012 hits and since then everything has just gotten progressively shittier under the guys And this is interesting of it getting better right like oh no we have faster iPhones. We have all this shit It's again. It's like uber there. It's just a giant scale of them selling us something that seems more That seems better at the time and then always ends up just being shitty Which it's about to right because we're going through the first or even second generation of kids who are Growing up in this computer kids, you know like fully.

Yeah, and I don't think we're seeing good things I think it's more social media whatever whatever you want to call it Yeah, I'm saying like if you just hit in front of a computer and it has no social media on it It's not like that detriment. I could learn some stuff that totally totally like the world is run on computer I agree with that this guy contends. That's the end if we fall down that trap for our No, he says the end if we become if we become if we try to become the machine That's already happening Have you seen these things that you put on your legs and I'm all over China yeah help you walk You must have if you watch the China videos and then I was watching a guy run in them It was insane. I'm like this is the fucking future They have shopping centers are that are like 40 stories tall and this guy can jump to the top of them In his brand new legs, so it ain't a big deal, you know, Oscar Pistorius, but it feels like we're looking at a different dimension Yeah, no, no, it totally does in China Yeah, no, I'm gonna I thought you a little bit before which doesn't make sense because I've always said that China's probably way better than we thought You have but after watching this guy's videos like Some of the shit there is just it seems and not only it it seems so far beyond what we have and There's no like fucking people smoking fentanyl on the corner Yes, that's the one thing and that has become so commonplace like I can't I don't one's shipping it to us I live in a in a fentanyl heavy part of town.

Yes, you do but there shouldn't be a fentanyl heavy part of town Well that should be part of town I've just become to accept that the like a prime piece of real estate is now infected But and behind every dumpster behind every any place they can go there is a fucking Crack fest going on I mean it's sort of like we have push for this though with the legalization of Maryland what we want It's not interesting because we think it's a compassionate society well Maybe it's we always said weed was a gateway drug But maybe it's not a gateway drug as in you're gonna do meth but it makes meth more acceptable because all drugs have become Closer to legalization, I guess or I don't know I don't know if it'll help but you know the royal Ottawa I do they're opening up a like emergency room for mental health issues There wasn't a place like you had an emergency after the hospital they had open and then they closed it so well How many guys do you see the royal Ottawa by the way anybody listening out there is like a mental hospital? How many people do you see on the street every day that are? Obviously Ridiculously far gone like crazy. There's no helping them and then you're like how is this person taking care of themselves?

Who's like telling them to bathe or brush their teeth or or no no no fine? Those are those are those are who's telling them to eat who's telling them? You know what I'm saying there's nobody out there looking these people are obviously not so I'm sorry come on Go ahead that person. I was gonna say you might be seeing them at their prime and they're dead two days later or something You know I don't know they've been out there for eight years Do I know they've been out there for two because I see the same cast of characters We don't know but I feel like our population is small enough that it could all be I agree and could be helped it seems very American so my neighborhood like we've talked about is crack even yeah, and it's interesting now because this new group has moved in it's like these young Middle Eastern kids and they're obviously like some sort of dealers because they're not crack heads But they hang out there during certain days.

Yeah, so that must be part of this whole like ecosystem You know what I mean of getting one drug to trade for another gotcha. You're really that it's not a you're doing it. It's like the wire I feel like what's his name Simon's McNulty. No, it's got a bottle of Jameson The weird guy worked on the computer lister for oh you're Simon fires his gun in the office No, I just feel like I'm like this he was like a civilian thrown into the yeah, you know The correlation anyways, I'm sorry.

I'm out of control. I just say find this guy successful I mean he worked in Cisco systems and aerospace defense contracting like he's had a he's not a cook He's not a cook but yet talking about what people consider kooky things. Well, it's jumped It's jumped the shark now, and there's nothing that isn't kooky I mean what we see we believe what we're told by Media if I have to sound like that guy. I would love to like look back on all the things that are obviously untrue that we were taught Well, you would know so little at this point if you Inconvenient truth that movie back it had on us in the fact that we are now there and it's nothing Did you ever see it?

Yeah, and I know I was I thought I'm having done I didn't see any of the plans gonna die and like I felt like I knew it existed. I can admit that Oh, no, I knew it existed. I just had never seen it. Maybe I watch I don't even remember That's why I was asking come on because I was like I don't I didn't see it We've got to think about these things coming out in a media landscape with so much less content No, but you're right you think about that one movie that one moment like changed the way country well our country Does business on?

Pollution and has been turned on say wow they got all this wrong. Maybe we should change this or that we we I mean It probably wasn't his idea. That was this is probably what they wanted to do all along He was just speaking to the influence it had definitely had influence Which is scary I mean it goes to show you that they're With influence can really be shared I have this really shitty feeling that this comment that they're talking about yeah Is gonna be like a way bigger deal than I imagine we lived through that the potential ending of I believe everyone below the poverty line is rooting for the common and we all had to like band together as nations to try Well, we'd have to use China's 61 missile there All those warheads and the atomic bomb or the what did I say hydrogen bomb? Yeah, could we trust ourselves to what and remember to that operation blue beam Yeah, was all about faking either an alien invasion or the return of a messiah.

Yeah, they talk about both Yeah, this could fit right into that You know what I mean for sure if this was aliens coming I mean that would be crazy imagine it was like a three-body problem thing where we know they're coming but they could only go so fast I mean this thing's gonna be in October. Yeah, but it's at the end of November again It's still like 200,000 Or I don't know what the number it's still really far from even Mars when it is that would go more It's still pretty far from us, you know the three-body problem It's coming to get us these things are happening That's not eating animals. Yeah, it would be it would be a little bit different if like we know that in What was it in the three-body problem a hundred years fifty years? I can't remember there were going to be another species land on this planet.

We were positive of it So like you might see them. I hope if you live to a hundred. I hope yeah 400 years I was gonna say it was something higher, but Nobody says ask an old person for advice. I hope young people ask me for advice when I'm in my 70s We're asking you about stuff.

They won't that's all you can hope although 70s the new 40 you have A nephew he'll always look to you for advice. I hope so. Can't wait to get my son bad advice To your son this is the best that I've seen it with my nephew Starts telling you how it is. I mean Brett laments about it friend of the show a lot and I Would imagine when you're a parent before social media and someone says I'm to you're not school or whatever You're like where are you getting this from now?

It's so much crazier. It's so much crazier Like he might your son might become a bigger friend of your favorite rapper like come to you and tell you so about this remix That you didn't know what the hell just couldn't have access to it or hate Anyways, I thought this guy like I said was the incubate truth about social media and Technologies and maybe even AI for that matter. We should turn AI off immediately, but whatever I should turn AI off immediately. We should turn AI off immediately also social media.

We'd have to get world consent That's the problem. Yeah, we wouldn't I mean I'm fucking listen wherever China's at now Like as far as like infrastructure they stop and you help everyone get to that just exactly that's all we have to get to that is the Jetsons He was right. There's everything but flying cars are flying cars I didn't see any flying cars. I didn't like I saw a lot of footage of people there But I didn't see any flying cars.

It's social issues. That's the biggest thing is how those grow as we progress Chinese well, no, I think it's wealth inequality and I'm sure there's wealth inequality there, but on the lower level It's just first better. It seems not probably wealth inequality is like our one way You don't know the farmers who are living off shit We have no idea But I can tell you this much I was taught and thought for a long time that everybody living in China was under oppression And when I see the videos whether whatever that means these people seem happy like they are having a great fucking dream And the places are amazing like old and new their old culture was amazing Like when you see their temples and stuff and their new culture is incredible because it's the Jetsons minus the flying cars It's the Jetsons and we know that like I know it's not good to talk good about Russia But again, they bad-mouthed Russia for a long they were at war with Russia for as long as I can remember Whether it be a real war or sorry a cold war or a intellectual war No real hot moment that would have to hold a grudge like an October 7th or a the final or whatever Yeah, and that's why I like that theory about like the Cold War being the cover story for the rest of the world Well, at least two powers were doing whatever the fuck you're doing He's talking to aliens. Maybe they really did go to the moon and we just have no idea what the fuck we found there I think the world is round.

I like that one too The interesting part about the moon thing I guess is like I definitely don't believe they went the first time Yeah, but did they just pull the same scam every time like cuz I've always said you only have to fool like Less than a hundred people. Yeah, and have the astronauts being on it I like what you're saying so the first couple of Apollo missions were just like fugazi while they were like this will buy us 10 years Actually, or they're all fugazi, but they're just running the same scam every time Which is you only have to convince the people in the room Yeah, who are doing the work and the pilots the astronauts are the only ones who have to be in on it meaning that like there Haven't been that many astronauts. There's what like four or five per trip Crew to so are you talking about people that actually went into space well you think none of them though You don't have to let them in no I'm just saying no you don't have to let the other three the back Or was it a case like they couldn't go up the first time but every other time they went or like you just said They didn't get up there until time. Yeah seven of thirteen cuz what was it like 17 trips to the moon 12 trips to the moon I don't even remember it's not very many like they only went a couple times and then in like it's too many to not have the Information about what happened and to be giving foreign countries pieces of wood 100% and you can't in this day and age like do something that miraculous and then you say oh we just taped over the Like they would never do that.

No, they're going to be on copies like on copies And when you find out that the footage that everybody watched the very first moon landing the footage We see now was actually somebody filming a screen that NASA was showing in their like board They're room where they were fooling the people. Yeah, like the whole thing is so fucking fugazy It's nuts. It brings you back to Greg Braden, which I said to Matt. I thought this was a five Can you believe that you thought this was a I don't know I felt like this guy was dropping no He was great science and it's something we really should have this collective Where are we going or how do we get here?

But it's it's too much totally fractured. I totally agree every the only problem with this episode Was a guy named Joe Rogan But this episode was great. I'll give it a fork. Excellent.

Okay, right on I give it a sure I'll give it a four fucking I was gonna go to three and a half But if Simon's going to before them who am I turn a leaf on a horrible week We found the silver lining this over lining the playbook as it were kind of hilarious story about China in the post joke The show was exclusively on Patreon. You know what's so funny He literally spent like three years being like Justin Trudeau is fucking selling us up to Chinese working with China And now now all of a sudden he's like I think China might be the best place on You should be happy for the four when you rather live in China than the u.s. They're gonna be People it doesn't mean that we'd be going there and living there So if we reap all the rewards, what if they give us all their technology? Mm-hmm.

What if all of a sudden we have a 40 story useless shopping all the no one goes to in the middle of Edmonton Whatever it well, we do kind of yes, I know it's not nice like these shopping's no it's not just the shopping centers It's everything there like again. I'm only seeing certain places. So the other places might be fucking I would agree that in 2025 a city with 15 million people has to have a crazy infrastructure How does everyone get to work? I mean everything has to be top of the line.

Mm-hmm. Like here our biggest city is five million and our infrastructure sucks You know what it seems like it seems like shit the sewage everything might just be like even like Yes, oh there don't don't get me started on their public transportation We'll wait for cars China story. It's so incredible. Alright gang If you made it this far, thank you so much Maybe you want to go one step further if you want to support the show you can go to patreon.com slash jared podcast for that five dollars You will get the post shows the show to the show we shoot the shit We'll get old episodes of this one age while the show we went back and this old episodes the same thing we do here moon debates All sorts of shit.

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